back to article Huawei P30: New No-Pro's cameras are flash ... but there are some curious bits

Perhaps it's an English thing about being fair to the underdog, but I quite warmed to Huawei's "ordinary" P series model last year, while its attention-seeking big brother P20 Pro hoovered up all the attention. Despite missing some tickbox flagship features, the plain ol' P20 offered much of the low light capability of its …

  1. Thunderpants
    Joke

    I wonder if anyone was using one of these at a recent meeting of the National Security Council?

  2. J F

    "without un-mapping Google's AI data slurper. "

    How does one do this?

    I assume it's present on android handsets.

    Thanks

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "without un-mapping Google's AI data slurper. "

      You click the button that says no you don't want to use assistant, just like you click the button to skip agreeing to Google terms and conditions.

      Some people are clearly quite thick.

      1. J F

        Re: "without un-mapping Google's AI data slurper. "

        No need to be a tool.

        I was assuming, as this is a tech site, that he was talking about something more complicated than not using the assistant ie. Stopping the phone sending location/data back to Google, similar to Tron for Windows 10.

        You must be fun at parties.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: "without un-mapping Google's AI data slurper. "

          ". Stopping the phone sending location/data back to Google, "

          No phone sends location back to Google, it's a per device opt in setting. In addition, If you don't agree to Google T&C in general, just cancel during sign up. No data is sent back to Google on any form. The tinfoil hat nutters wireshark this all the time.

          Do you even own an android handset? It doesn't sound like it.

          1. Lord Elpuss Silver badge

            Re: "without un-mapping Google's AI data slurper. "

            AC not only are you a tool, you're a wrong tool. Android slurps and sends data back to google all the time at the base OS level. The only way to opt out is to not use the handset.

            We can have an argument about what KIND of data is sent back, and whether this is innocent or nefarious, but to claim it's tinfoil hat nutterism is clearly bollocks.

            Oh and I know it's Monday and all, but... stop being nasty. There's no call for it.

  3. Spanners Silver badge
    WTF?

    Sicking with Oneplus for now

    Despite some interesting items, the camera for example, I am sticking with my Oneplus5 for now.

    The price is excessive. I have avoided the Apple gullibility tax for years and don't propose paying someone elses'.

    I got a Oneplus when Samsung crudware became unbearable. I do not need things that duplicate what already exists. My photos exist happily in Google Land and I don't need a new cloud to put the new ones in. I don't need another calendar to get mixed up with. Gmail is suitable for email and it could connect to other mail systems if I needed to. That nice Samsung health app does not link to my Fitbit so it is of no interest even if it can do more than the FB app.

    Yes, you can make software as well as hardware. If you give me a link to your app store, I will look and see if it seems more useful than what I get from elsewhere.

    The camera seems excellent and if they dropped the other junk, it would go back onto my "possible" list.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Sicking with Oneplus for now - downvoted...

      solely for your proud reliance on Google, some of us are even considering *shudder* Apple to avoid the ever increasing invasion of Google.

      I'm running Lineage, with F-droid and Yalp Store for apps [plus some side loading] but am now seriously considering a second hand iPhone as the mid range generics are dropped by the Lineage [or most/any maintainer] once they're 2-3 years old. Brilliantly my standby phone, a Nexus 4 is still supported by nearly everyone!

      I tried to disable Google Ass-istant on my GF's Sony, now it constantly nags that "some things may not work correctly", blah, blah. FRO Google

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Sicking with Oneplus for now - downvoted...

        What ever Increasing invasion of Google? Got something specific other that what the internet cretins told you?

        Its very black and white, same as it always has been. You want Google appslike maps, Gmail, play store and such, you agree to the T&C otherwise decline and don't use them.

        It's no different in the apple world, if you use Apple maps and iCloud, they track the shit out of you and monitize you in the exact same way. it was no different in the Microsoft world.

        1. Lord Elpuss Silver badge

          Re: Sicking with Oneplus for now - downvoted...

          "It's no different in the apple world, if you use Apple maps and iCloud, they track the shit out of you and monitize you in the exact same way. it was no different in the Microsoft world."

          Utterly wrong. Again. Neither Microsoft nor Apple monetise your data at the OS level in the same way Google does. Here's a pro tip; get off your soapbox and do a bit of research before posting next time.

    2. DrXym Silver badge

      Re: Sicking with Oneplus for now

      Huawei is as bad as Samsung for the crapware. The entire user interface / launcher / desktop is an in-house piece of crap called EMUI. IMO that's reason enough to avoid all their phones.

      OnePlus phones tend to have a relatively vanilla Android experience which is a good thing. But they're jacking up the cost of their handset with each iteration which is not good. They've also copied some ideas off Apple / Samsung such as ditching the earphone jack which is a monumentally dumb thing to do. We'll see what they do with the 7 / 7 Pro to rectify these issues or make them worse.

  4. imanidiot Silver badge

    Nope

    Has a notch, comes with a ton of nag-ware and we-can-do-this-too crap and is rather expensive. I'll stick with my cheap and cheerful 100 Euros straight from China phone.

  5. the spectacularly refined chap

    I'm beginning to wonder...

    ... what everyone in the area around the Register office thinks.

    "They're taking a photo of the post box again. Just what is so interesting about it exactly?”

  6. LeahroyNake Bronze badge

    seems very

    Expensive :0

    Considering you can get an Honor 9 Lite non contract for £126 including a case and screen protector. The camera is crap but I don't take selfies or pics of my food or have a post box fetish ???

  7. BRYN

    Too expensive to budge me from My Moto G pro and its excellent near 3 day battery life in my hands. No a bad camera either. But I aint a good photographer so what do I know.

  8. Barry Rueger Silver badge

    Pleasant surprise

    My old (3 years) LG was showing signs of trouble. After a bit of shopping it turned out that a P20 was the best deal around, plus it's a poke in the eye of Mr Trump.

    I'm impressed for the most part, and would happily jump to a P30. It seems to be a very well built item.

    My only complaints (aside from the notch, which really is irritating) are related to the bundled Huawei and Google crapware, which take days to disable, and the immediate upgrade to Android Pie which has significantly degraded GPS performance, and more importantly for me has entirely blocked any and all call recording apps.

    Thanks Google, for screwing me over yet again.

    Android really does get worse with every version. If there was a non-Apple alternative on the market I'd be looking at it closely.

  9. applebyJedi

    Forget Google

    I'm not as concerned with being able to turn the Google assistant off as much as I am with the everything you do is reported to the Chinese government.

  10. ovation1357

    Getting big and expensive now :-(

    Something over a year ago my Sony Xperia very suddently died on me (seems in-keeping with my generally bad experiences with Sony products over the years), I quickly needed a replacement phone but my criteria of a relatively small droid with a decent spec really limited my choices. I went for a Huawei P10 Lite at £180 sim free as I couldn't justify doubling the price for the full P10, especially as it was near identical spec except for the fancy dual camera...

    My P10 Lite is by far the best Android handset I've ever owned! Ive had a number of different mid-range devices over the years since my conversion to Android with a Nexus One and they've all had one or more annoying problems whereas the P10 Lite has been flawless for me. I've installed Nova Launcher to give me a more native-like experience although I'd personally take EMUI over Samsung's or Sony's UIs anyday. The spec was amazing for the price, and I still get regular Android updates from Huawei including the promised upgrade to Oreo a few months after purchase. I don't know where things have gone since this model but I found that there was minimal junkware pre-installed and unlike my previous Sony and the Samsungs and HTCs before it; almost all pre-installed apps are uninstallable - I really hope this remains an option in newer devices.

    Following the discontinuation of the P10, I bought my wife an Honor P9 Lite a few months later, which has been equally brilliant.

    I did take a look at the P20 but like all the other manufactureres, Huawei are making all their phones bigger and bigger whereas I'm looking for a really small phone which is packed with an HD screen and plenty of RAM+Storage. Replacing my P10 will be a difficult task: I'll check out the later P-series but I think the price will put me off, so I guess it would be a look at the Honor offerings next and then reconsider the Nokias with stock Android.

  11. pintofbitter

    and I thought it was meant to be a phone !

  12. 89724102172714182892114I7551670349743096734346773478647892349863592355648544996312855148587659264921

    Dear Reviewer

    I am enjoying the sight of the wonderfully fresh and colourful fruit! Showcases camera+software colour handling and depth by utilising a fantastic choice of subject. It's nice that my eyeballs are not rotting while viewing this fine photograph, quite the opposite... mine eyes are experiencing spooky rejuvenation at a distance as Mother Nature's overloaded easel collapses spilling multihued wonder over my retinas and for this I am eternally grateful.

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