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The game Fortnite should be banned, according to Britain's own Prince Harry, because it's "addictive" and "irresponsible." "The game shouldn’t be allowed," he told mental health experts while visiting a YMCA in West London, arguing that parents don't know what to do about their youngsters' addiction to the game. He went on: " …

  1. Long John Brass Silver badge
    Flame

    Everything old is new again.

    Jack Thompson called and wants his murder simulators back.

    1. bombastic bob Silver badge
      Megaphone

      Re: Everything old is new again.

      worth pointing out, life itself IS violence. The constant competition and struggle for dominance within our own sphere, mastering our own destinies, getting hired INSTEAD of some other applicant, buying the sale items BEFORE the store is out of stock, jumping in line BEFORE it gets too long, passing people on the highway who don't *FEEL* that your time is worth them moving out of the way, and so on.

      It's a rat race. And the rats are winning.

      And WHAT do we want to teach our young'unz? That ASSERTING yourself is WRONG? That STANDING UP to bullying is WRONG? That FIGHTING for what is RIGHT is WRONG? That the world is nothing more than 'safe spaces' and 'participation trophies' and '1+1=3 is ok as long as you FEEL GOOD about it' ??? There are NO winners anymore because it means there ALSO has to be LOSERS?

      * W R O N G *

      The world is a violent place. Just look at nature and what animals do to one another. Civilized society limits that violence, but cannot eliminat it. The "daily struggle" for survival is STILL there, and the ones who are MOST aggressive, MOST competitive, and MOST assertive, are the ones who WILL SUCCEED. And NOT being able to cope in a VIOLENT world puts the next generation at a SERIOUS disadvantage...

  2. Youngone Silver badge

    Thanks Harry

    We should listen to what he says, because of his extensive life experience, and all the great things he's achieved.

    1. tfewster Silver badge
      Facepalm

      Re: Thanks Harry

      And apparently he "stole" the Instagram account off another person. A great role model for the yoof of today

      1. Steve Davies 3 Silver badge

        Re: Thanks Harry

        According to the guy (speaking on the Radio yesterday) who had the account, it was Instagram "wot did it" because it was pretty well dormant. He'd now going to use his Twitter account a lot more to stop the same thing happening.

        but hey don't let the truth get in the way of slagging off someone.

        1. Julz
          Thumb Down

          Re: Thanks Harry

          So if you don't use something very much it's OK for somebody else to steal it?

          1. Rameses Niblick the Third Kerplunk Kerplunk Whoops Where's My Thribble? Silver badge

            Re: Thanks Harry

            So if you don't use something very much it's OK for somebody else to steal it?

            I'm not sure the word 'steal' is applicable in this context, because who 'owns' a freely provided service? Do I 'own' my instagram account or does instagram? Or do I own the content of the instagram account, which is a moot point if it's not being used? I'm fairly sure that somewhere in the T's&C's of most of these services they state that the service can be withdrawn at any time and without notice. I used to regularly receive emails about my dropbox account closing in 90 days unless I log in and use it. I didn't and guess what? I no longer have a dropbox account.

            Clearly it's not OK for someone to decide to use my car because I've been on holiday for a fortnight, but I provably own the car. The company who built it transferred ownership rights to someone for money, who then transferred those rights to me for less money. But before we can use terms like 'steal', we need to define ownership, and in the case of free online services, I think that's very ambiguous at the moment.

            1. Julz

              Re: Thanks Harry

              Agreed, I was being a bit hysterical to make a point. It's just gets very wordy and looses it's pithiness if you have to define ownership and explain terms and conditions when all you want to do is point out the injustice, however slight, that had occurred to Kevin Keiley.

              However, if you havn't paid for something is there really a contract and if not then T&Cs are a bit moot and everything is on an as is basis.

    2. Roopee
      Thumb Down

      Re: Thanks Harry

      At least he's only a royal, not someone influential.

      Personally I think they should be disbanded and all their assets returned to "the people" (from whom they were taken in the first place).

      1. Rameses Niblick the Third Kerplunk Kerplunk Whoops Where's My Thribble? Silver badge

        Re: Thanks Harry

        Personally I think they should be disbanded and all their assets returned to "the people" (from whom they were taken in the first place).

        Royals eh? Very nice. And how'd they get that, eh? By exploiting the workers. By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society. We're living in a dictatorship! A self-perpetuating autocracy! Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you! I mean, if I went around saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help, I'm being repressed!

        1. Kane Silver badge
          Thumb Up

          Re: Thanks Harry

          I thought we were an autonomous collective.

          1. Rameses Niblick the Third Kerplunk Kerplunk Whoops Where's My Thribble? Silver badge

            Re: Thanks Harry

            I thought we were an autonomous collective.

            We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as sort of executive officer for the week but all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs but by a two thirds majority in the case of more....wait, that's not a bad idea...

            1. TonyHoyle

              Re: Thanks Harry

              Funny thing about that is scaled up it's basically how the EU presidency works..

              We were in line to be the 'executive officer of the week' but decided to brexit instead :p

        2. Swarthy Silver badge

          Re: Thanks Harry

          Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords... sounds better than what we have now.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Thanks Harry

        arguably, if they hadn't had taken from the people, other people would have taken from the people, and would be in their place now :)

        1. DavCrav Silver badge

          Re: Thanks Harry

          "arguably, if they hadn't had taken from the people, other people would have taken from the people, and would be in their place now :)"

          Yes, but 'I nicked it first because otherwise someone else would have' doesn't normally wash as an argument down the local constabulary.

      3. Peter2 Silver badge

        Re: Thanks Harry

        all their assets returned to "the people" (from whom they were taken in the first place).

        I, uh. Really?

        Your a bit late, I take it that you hadn't heard that this process was completed in 1760 under George III? The Monarch's assets were separated off and paid to the Treasury, and in return the government ran a Civil List returning a set figure. Under the existing arrangement the Monarch currently is paid 15% of the profit of the Crown Estate, with the remaining 85% vanishing into the bottomless maw of parliamentary spending.

        Personally, I would support putting a major constitutional change as dissolving one of our major constitutional pillars to the people in a referendum with a simple question.

        Would you like to dissolve the following institution:-

        A) The Monarchy

        B) Parliament

        And make it clear that the management of the dissolution of either is dealt with by the other institution, not the one being dissolved.

        I think we both know which institution faces immediate eradication due to a near total lack of public support.

        1. The Indomitable Gall

          Re: Thanks Harry

          " I take it that you hadn't heard that this process was completed in 1760 under George III? The Monarch's assets were separated off and paid to the Treasury, "

          Which is why anything since taken from the people would be accurately described as stolen in a legal sense. Under previous monarchs, many state assets have gone mysteriously missing from high-security locations and no charges have been brought, including several generations of crown jewels. The crown jewels were quite certainly stolen. Who by, we can't say, but the lack of any action suggests someone who is above the law. Some of these disappearances are said to line up quite coincidentally with cashflow problems in the households of the then-reigning (now dead) monarchs.

          " and in return the government ran a Civil List returning a set figure "

          Ah, so we got back what they stole from us... by buying it? You think having to buy back what was stolen is justice. If so, I'll sell you your own car next Sunday.

          Oh, and then you mention the Crown Estate. How did they get the Crown Estate? Now I'm not saying they stole it, but I think the previous poster would. Why did they have rights to own the land in the first place?

          1. Duffy Moon

            Re: Thanks Harry

            Of course it was not only the royals, but all their Norman mates who stole all our land and still haven't given it back after a thousand years.

            It's funny really, the idea of claiming land ownership by way of brutish thuggery would be frowned upon these days, but we have done nothing to reverse those claims.

            Perhaps a land tax would be a good step?

          2. Prst. V.Jeltz Silver badge

            Re: Thanks Harry

            Oh, and then you mention the Crown Estate. How did they get the Crown Estate? Now I'm not saying they stole it, but I think the previous poster would. Why did they have rights to own the land in the first place?

            oh land! I was thinking Toyota

      4. bombastic bob Silver badge
        Unhappy

        Re: Thanks Harry

        Over here across the pond, we have our 'royals' too. It's just that membership in THAT club has less to do with lineage and more to do with "being in the club". Names withheld to avoid political arguments in this thread.

        At least there's an opportunity to work your way up, get lucky, and sort of 'join them', but who'd want to? Yeah, THEM.

      5. Roj Blake Silver badge

        Re: He's only a royal

        There are those who would look at his uncanny resemblance to a certain James Hewitt (a close personal friend of his mother) and suggest that's not actually really a royal at all.

        Not me of course, I would never do that.

        1. The Indomitable Gall

          Re: He's only a royal

          I always thought that was a bit of a moot point, but then I realised that we're paying him for being a royal. The public should have a right to a DNA test for anyone on the Civil List.

    3. Mark 85 Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: Thanks Harry

      Whom to trust in world of ethics, bad behaviors, etc...? Someone like Harry who done his share? Or someone like the Pope? Some movie star? Decisions, decisions....

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Thanks Harry

        How about none of them?

    4. fajensen Silver badge
      Trollface

      Re: Thanks Harry

      At least the inevitable royal divorce will be a sight to see, Fergie and Brexit will be a mere blip in comparison!

    5. Captain Scarlet Silver badge
      Mushroom

      Re: Thanks Harry

      The game Tetris should be banned because it's "addictive" and "irresponsible."

      1. Swarthy Silver badge
        Flame

        Re: Thanks Harry

        Damn it! Now I have that tune stuck in my head!

        1. Captain Scarlet Silver badge
          Trollface

          Re: Thanks Harry

          **Hums the Tetris theme tune using Peter Griffins hum noise**

    6. bombastic bob Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      Re: Thanks Harry

      "because of his extensive life experience"

      A big thumb-up for the snark, which I read between the lines.

  3. MJI Silver badge

    Fortnight

    My children think it is terrible and taking exposure away from better games.

    Me, I am a Desticle!

    Oh and I quite like Harry, very entertaining.

    1. BebopWeBop Silver badge

      Re: Fortnight

      There are bette4 ways to find amusement

      1. Kane Silver badge
        Joke

        Re: Fortnight

        "There are bette4 ways to find amusement"

        That's right, he could be playing Anthem instead!

        1. MJI Silver badge

          Re: Fortnight

          Anthem!!!!

          A son bought it, pay £60 and play for a hour.

          Well that is what it seemed to me.

          And I took the piss.

          1. Kane Silver badge

            Re: Fortnight

            "And I took the piss."

            Rightly so, that game is a travesty and a blight upon the masses.

            Well, not so "massy" at the moment as it seems player count is falling off a cliff.

        2. BigSLitleP

          Re: Fortnight

          That's not a joke, playing Anthem is a breach of his basic human rights

  4. Starace

    Retarded

    He was never exactly bright but ever since he became c*ntstruck with that C-list actress his brain has totally melted.

    All going downhill very fast, even compared to the usual sad fate of a former 'spare' getting further from the throne with every new niece or nephew.

    1. Fred Dibnah

      Re: Retarded

      At least he isn't related by blood to the rest of the Saxe-Coburgs.

    2. DavCrav Silver badge

      Re: Retarded

      "He was never exactly bright but ever since he became c*ntstruck with that C-list actress his brain has totally melted."

      He was thick as pigshit before, he's as thick as pigshit now. Can't see the difference to be honest.

  5. LenG

    Ignore

    Why do we continue to report the uninformed witterings of the terminally idiotic?

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Ignore

      el'Reg - by royal appointment

      1. Teiwaz Silver badge

        Re: Ignore

        el'Reg - by royal appointment

        By Royal disappointment after this article (which I couldn't agree more with).

        Sixth in line now? (do we really need a six or more backups? If so, wouldn't it be better to keep them safely in a bunker somewhere underground in case of surprise nuclear strike, zombie outbreak or triffid meteor shower?).

        1. ratfox Silver badge
          Angel

          Re: Ignore

          Thankfully, it seems unlikely we'll ever need him, unless all three of William's children somehow die without children before he does. Thank you William for doing your best to preserve the honour of the British monarchy.

    2. Rich 11 Silver badge

      Re: Ignore

      Why do we continue to report the uninformed witterings of the terminally idiotic?

      To rip the piss out of them.

    3. Esme

      Re: Ignore

      Huh? You want there should be no more coverage of Microsoft in El Reg?!

    4. Rameses Niblick the Third Kerplunk Kerplunk Whoops Where's My Thribble? Silver badge

      Re: Ignore

      Why do we continue to report the uninformed witterings of the terminally idiotic?

      Because we appoint them to government?

      Oh, and royals, obviously.

    5. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Ignore

      Why do we continue to report the uninformed witterings of the terminally idiotic?

      Were we talking about Harry or Kieren there?

    6. MJI Silver badge

      Re: Ignore

      >>>>Why do we continue to report the uninformed witterings of the terminally idiotic?

      What like Corbyn and his bunch?

      Or ERG?

      Or DUP?

      Too many idiots in positions of power. Most of them in the Commons.

      At least the Royals are entertaining and more or less harmless.

    7. fajensen Silver badge
      Terminator

      Re: Ignore

      Algorithms, my darhling. Algorithms designed to optimise media "engagement" and "page-views" basically dredge up all the worst stupidity and splurge it on the front-page.

      It happens because Digital Media runs on advertising, which makes them compete on metrics like "page-views" and "engagement" (the amount of interactions people have on a media site, f.ex. via comments).

      The more page-views per second, the more valuable the add space is and the more successful the media will be. Nothing drives "page views" and "engagement" as well as outrage and it is well understood that nothing drives outrage quite as effectively as the inane or offensive uttering of liars, morons, racists, bigots, idiots or the unholy combination of all those desirable properties .... drivers for add-revenue: Brexiteers.

      If everyone was nice, then there would be a market for Microsoft Tay to drive traffic to Daily Mail!

  6. MajDom

    He doesn't like games, he prefers the real thing: shooting people from an Apache helicopter in Afghanistan.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      How else are you going to convert these people to democracy other than by having an hereditary monarchy shooting at them ?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      To play Devil's Advocate, "shooting people from helicopters in Afghanistan" and seeing what happens as a result, to both the shot and those doing the shooting, seems to have had a dramatic effect on his attitude.

      Also, he was trained on helicopters by the son of a friend of ours, who went to a comp. and entered the Army almost by accident. And the son likes him.

      1. DavCrav Silver badge

        "And the son likes him."

        And my Dad met him because he came for no obvious reason to the local office for a day. And thought he was a dipshit.

        So 1-1 on the anecdote score.

        1. Paul Kinsler

          So 1-1 on the anecdote score.

          This is a one-day-visit anecdote, versus a trained-him-to-fly-helicopters anecdote. Unless H was a whizz at helicopters, that probably took longer than a day - and so presumably gave a better opportunity for the anecdote-supplier to judge.

          But still anecdotes, I agree.

          1. MajDom

            Re: So 1-1 on the anecdote score.

            Harry literally stated that shooting people from a chopper was like playing a video game (and not in a negative way, in his view). If anyone disqualified himself from commenting on video games causing real-life violence, it's this guy.

  7. VikiAi Silver badge
    Boffin

    Is Fortnite addictive? Or just fun to play?

    I am not in its target demographic and all my nieces and nephews who are very much in its target demographic tend to sneer at the idea of playing it, so I really don't have enough exposure to really know!

    From what little I have seen/read about actual gameplay, it seems like it was designed to be fun and easy to get into without too much cognitive investment, so I guess that could be 'addictive'. But it could also just be a generic-but-well-designed-game that became quite popular for a few years as a result of aforementioned design, too.

    1. Peter2 Silver badge

      Re: Is Fortnite addictive? Or just fun to play?

      Well, games have always designed to a reasonable extent to be fun and relatively easy to get into to maximise their market and get recommendations via word of mouth. That part is not a problem, and I don't think anybody serious (beyond a handful of cranks) has ever seriously argued that it was more dangerous than say, sitting in front of a TV/Radio/Gramophone.

      Older games were a case of pay once, and that's it. Then when MMO's came along that needed central infrastructure they switched to a monthly/yearly subscription. Still fair enough.

      The problem comes with a new business model; give the game away, but introduce "power ups", that give you a substantial advantage over somebody that doesn't have them (aka pay to win), which practically requires everybody to buy these power ups to get a level playing field. Introduce these in lock boxes (ie gambling) paid for in real money via micro-transactions and you get (some) people spending hundreds a month on these things, many times what has been paid for gaming before. In order to get people to spend this sort of money, the game is deliberately designed to be as addictive as possible to maximise the income received from micro transactions.

      Facebook is (imo) just as bad as these games as it's designed to be deliberately addictive to maximise facebooks income from adverts, and to hook other people into the things along with you. Both tend to result in a situation where people are neglecting their real lives in order to stare at a screen, which is not healthy or particularly socially desirable.

      This can reasonably be considered to be a problem that does need addressing.

      1. DavCrav Silver badge

        Re: Is Fortnite addictive? Or just fun to play?

        "The problem comes with a new business model; give the game away, but introduce "power ups", that give you a substantial advantage over somebody that doesn't have them (aka pay to win), which practically requires everybody to buy these power ups to get a level playing field. Introduce these in lock boxes (ie gambling) paid for in real money via micro-transactions and you get (some) people spending hundreds a month on these things, many times what has been paid for gaming before. In order to get people to spend this sort of money, the game is deliberately designed to be as addictive as possible to maximise the income received from micro transactions."

        This is the real problem. Freemium gaming in general is exploitative, and has to be, as otherwise the business model cannot work. It must sustain itself from people spending money on a free game. Thus it was very few options to do so: pay to win, which defeats the whole object, or interminable wait times that annoy you, but with enough good content in it to make you want to pay to skip the wait.

        And like most long-tail-like concepts, they have to make most of their money from a small percentage of their player base.

      2. Baldrickk Silver badge

        Re: Is Fortnite addictive? Or just fun to play?

        I don't actually play it, but are the purchaseable items in Fortnite purely aesthetic?

        1. Peter2 Silver badge

          Re: Is Fortnite addictive? Or just fun to play?

          I don't play it either, but if the purchasable items were purely aesthetic then most people wouldn't bother. A quick look shows "Exclusive Legendary Heroes" and "Exclusive Legendary Weapons" for sale and I have great doubts that those are purely cosmetic.

          1. Prst. V.Jeltz Silver badge

            Re: Is Fortnite addictive? Or just fun to play?

            "t if the purchasable items were purely aesthetic then most people wouldn't bother."

            You clearly dont know the yoof of today.

            They go nuts for "skins" , will pay a tenner for their weapon to have a different paint job.

            my step son was about to pay £30 for a knife (yes - in game virtual software knife)

  8. Joeyjoejojrshabado

    Unpopular opinion

    So the point you're trying to make is that Harry has behaved like many normal people do and that he is therefore disqualified from expressing an opinion about a thing that normal people do? (excepting that he is not, actually, a normal person)

    Also, what is the problem with cross dressing? He made no comment about cross dressing as far as I can see, but is being attacked for it by the author who refers to it as "bad influence...irresponsible behaviour".

    1. Nattrash

      Re: Unpopular opinion

      I don't think the point really is with "behaving like a normal person" or "cross dressing". I think the general idea/ remarks refer more to the fact that the base for the significance and/ or weight of opinions/ position/ privilege/ resources is perhaps very small to non-existent if it is based on nothing more than the fact that you were the 1st sperm to reach its goal. And with that, we do have to recognise of course that this is not an uniquely British aberration, or even connected to aristocracy. It seems to be an adverse event connected to the human species in general.

    2. steviebuk Silver badge

      Re: Unpopular opinion

      Because we don't see him saying the same about cigarettes & alcohol. And he now has an account on another form of medium that people find addictive, that being Instagram. But we don't see him say that should be banned as they need to make their money some how, and they just know their Instagram will blow up and they can make a pretty penny out of it. A pretty penny out of other peoples addiction.

      Although The Reg has lost a lot of street cred by linking to the god awful Daily Mail several times in this article. But I do like the ending :)

    3. fajensen Silver badge

      Re: Unpopular opinion

      The point is that a person of importance is diminished by allowing that his/her preferential-lane media platform is used for trivial opinions on trivial things that really does not mean anything, not even to the "common people" he is trying to "engage" with "on their level".

      He is basically using up his influence on putting himself in the position of that loud geezer there is at any pub; Of course this is a Safe Space to enter, because nobody cares about his inanities either! But, really, such low ambition!? Is it really OK to become a tosspot loser just to be comfortable and never challenge anyone on anything important and never have his fingers smacked!?

      If he had any balls, he could talk about childhood food poverty in the UK, and question why this is acceptable in a supposedly 1'st world nation!?

    4. DavCrav Silver badge

      Re: Unpopular opinion

      "So the point you're trying to make is that Harry has behaved like many normal people do "

      I've lost count of the number of times I've dressed up as a Nazi for a party.

      "he is therefore disqualified from expressing an opinion about a thing that normal people do?"

      Actually, yes. You should be disqualified from expressing an opinion on whether something mildly addictive should be banned from society when you, yourself, have done all sorts of irresponsible things over the course of your time, and you are totally insulated from real society and the consequences of your actions by money and immense privilege.

      Remember the black spider memos? We need to make it clear to the dolt that his opinions should be immedaitely and vociferously discarded.

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  9. Chris Gray 1

    tax it

    Tobacco and alcohol are taxed, and hopefully some of the money taken goes towards treatment expenses for those who are harmed by those addictive substances.

    So, if games like Fortnite really are harmfully addictive, then they should be taxed, and the money earned spent on treatment of the addicted.

    1. Tigra 07 Silver badge
      Facepalm

      Re: tax it

      They are taxed. VAT. They're also age restricted.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: tax it

        Age restricted?

        So why are 8-10yr olds playing it as witnessed on the bus yesterday.

        I'm actually with Harry on this one. These games are deliberately designed to be addictive just like hard drugs.

        I never saw the point of shoot'em'up, MORPG (or whatever) and even Social Media but I'm just a grumpy old fart (and proud of it) and after 40+ years in IT I am really, really glad that I'm retired and doing other more productive things with my life as opposed to being a football of MBA arseholes aka PHB's.

        I'm waiting for some paint to dry which is infinitely more interesting that playing Fortnite or GFA(1-?) or any computer game other than the odd Solitaire or Spider.

        1. Kane Silver badge

          Re: tax it

          "Age restricted?

          So why are 8-10yr olds playing it as witnessed on the bus yesterday."

          Because their parents are not supervising the use of their devices closely enough? Maybe?

          "I'm actually with Harry on this one. These games are deliberately designed to be addictive just like hard drugs.

          That's probably closer to the truth than some people are willing to admit, particularly when it come to the Looter/Shooter genre (I'm looking at you EA/Activision-Blizzard, with your bastardly loot boxes), however I tend to stay away from those types of games, for a number of reasons:

          • 1 - I don't play well with others in online environments
          • 2 - I despise the mechanisms of the constant pestering that has become prevalent with the monetisation practises being employed and
          • 3 - I prefer a solitary experience where I am free to explore the environment and story that has been presented via the developers artistic expression.

          However, I realise as I'm writing this and reading through the remainder of your post, that this will largely pass you by as it appears you have denigrated my hobby and pastime by comparing it to watching paint dry.

          May I recommend a couple of sessions of Catan instead?

          1. MJI Silver badge

            Re: tax it

            Single player games.

            Love good ones. Especailly from Naughty Dog

            1. Kane Silver badge
              Thumb Up

              Re: tax it

              "Single player games.

              Love good ones. Especailly from Naughty Dog"

              Aye, looking forward to The Last of Us Part 2, that should be a treat.

              Also, although not Naughty Dog, Death Stranding; everything I'm seeing is telling me to book a week off for that one.

              1. MJI Silver badge

                Re: tax it

                Death Stranding - same engine as Horizon : Zero Dawn, developed from the Killzone SF engine. I am unusual as I like Guerilla Games.

          2. BigSLitleP

            Re: tax it

            If he can't wrap his head around something as simple as Fortnite, he's not going to grasp Catan.

            Can i recommend watching Eastenders, drinking a can of whichever cheap beverage is on offer at the supermarket and making stupid, rambling statements such as "back in my day, kids played outside"

            1. Tigra 07 Silver badge
              Coffee/keyboard

              Re: tax it

              Catan might be a bit technical. Maybe Snakes and Ladders is a better fit for him

          3. DavCrav Silver badge

            Re: tax it

            "however I tend to stay away from those types of games, for a number of reasons:"

            I would like to add another reason:

            4 - I do not have large quantities of time to spend playing a computer game, and therefore cannot hope to be as good at it as someone who spends all day on it. I don't need to be repeatedly beaten by someone else because I cannot dedicate a portion of my life to getting better.

            This is why I avoid all multiplayer gaming.

            1. Geoffrey W Silver badge

              Re: tax it

              There's something oddly pleasurable about being thrashed repeatedly by some anonymous stranger. I just played Need For Speed - Rivals and got driven into the weeds by players playing as racers, and busted by players playing as Bobbies in fast cars. There's no escape for me. One of the cop players kept hunting me down and running me into a wall. I felt like weeping. I'll play again over the weekend. Perhaps I'm a closet masochist.

          4. Stork Bronze badge

            Re: tax it

            Our son is playing, we are limiting the time.

            But it's not a simple issue, we live some distance from other kids and he is playing with his friends. They often form teams, it's also a way of socializing.

        2. Prst. V.Jeltz Silver badge

          Re: tax it

          "These games are deliberately designed to be addictive just like hard drugs."

          whoa call the fun police!

          Games by their very nature have to be "addictive" or no one would play them

          A game thats not addictive is .... well shit.

          They didnt make this one extra addictive by sprinkling cocaine on it or anything !

  10. Marketing Hack Silver badge

    Harry is getting a little preachy about this stuff.

    You can get addicted to almost anything. TV, video games, social media, sports, running, who knows what else. I hadn't thought of this until now, but I bet there are people out there who are addicted to music, and start losing it if their background music is turned off.

    Rather than focusing on one video title, maybe the Royals should get behind some efforts to just get kids to go outside and play more often?

    1. BebopWeBop Silver badge

      Re: Harry is getting a little preachy about this stuff.

      They are up for it, the only requirement being a horse, hounds and some small dog.after all if you can’t afford that then you are worthless. I. Other news some people use public transport

      1. Korev Silver badge
        Childcatcher

        Re: Harry is getting a little preachy about this stuff.

        Don't forget the fox to "accidentally" chase

    2. rg287 Bronze badge

      Re: Harry is getting a little preachy about this stuff.

      Rather than focusing on one video title, maybe the Royals should get behind some efforts to just get kids to go outside and play more often?

      Err, they have and do. Since at least 1956.

      Prior to that, Philip was quite heavily involved in the Central Council of Physical Recreation, and the Earl of Wessex is now President of CCPR's successor (the Sport and Recreation Alliance).

  11. Sorry that handle is already taken. Silver badge

    I wonder

    Is it possible for a public figure to comment on something without being accused of "ignoring" everything else?

    1. BigSLitleP

      Re: I wonder

      Missing the point, on purpose or by accident?

  12. Gene Cash Silver badge

    A "fun" game is addictive.

    I don't find Fortnight fun, but if a game is fun, I do tend to play it to the detriment of things I "should" be doing, so I guess that could be classed as "addictive".

    However, the online multiplayer environment is **toxic as hell** with all sorts of racial, gender, cultural and other slurs and insults hurled by people losing games. It's like the Rule 34 of swearing. If you can think of it, you'll hear it, and worse. I certainly would supervise my child to the hilt.

    This is true regardless of if it's GTA, HALO, Fortnight, PUBG, Call of Duty, or anything else even mildly competitive. To my surprise, these people are even in the Minecraft community, which is about as non-competitive as it gets.

    1. MJI Silver badge

      Re: A "fun" game is addictive.

      Toxicity in games.

      Seen it in SP games with casual PVP where hard core types wipe out everyone, why not sod off back to COD.

      Yet a more hardcore MP game with a SP element was not toxic until the COD crowd got a free trial. They whinged like mad as it was slow and they got wiped. Lots of cheating accusations and the like, no it was a game played by older skilled slower players, not so much by kids.

      Game 1 was a casual but fun MP aimed at the SP players to give the game life. Got toxic.

      Game 2 was a FPS with story and a decent MP needing skill more than reactions. Toxic for a week then returned to fun.

      It does seem to be that the COD crowd are most toxic.

    2. disgustedoftunbridgewells Silver badge

      Re: A "fun" game is addictive.

      FIFA was brilliant back when people could send you voice recordings after a game.

      My sister used to forward me the ones her husband got - they were amazingly offensive - his style of play being to pass the ball around keeping possession, which is very frustrating for an opponent.

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Personally I agree with Harry

    Seems to me it the author has a chip on his shoulder and it wouldn't matter what Harry said, he'd get roasted for it.

    1. Tigra 07 Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: Personally I agree with Harry

      He's ginger. He'll get roasted just from a brisk walk outside in mild Spring weather.

      1. Kane Silver badge

        Re: Personally I agree with Harry

        "He'll get roasted just from a brisk walk outside in mild Spring weather."

        He'll get roasted just from a slow walk under a halogen lamp at midnight.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Personally I agree with Harry

      I await the moment he's being roasted for saying something sensible. Probably, the best he's going to get in such an instance is - no coverage...

    3. DavCrav Silver badge

      Re: Personally I agree with Harry

      "Seems to me it the author has a chip on his shoulder and it wouldn't matter what Harry said, he'd get roasted for it."

      Seems to me that Harry could test that theory by saying or doing something that isn't stupid. Still waiting.

    4. disgustedoftunbridgewells Silver badge

      Re: Personally I agree with Harry

      El Reg is left wing now for some reason. With that, unfortunately, goes a spiteful republicanism

  14. Cheshire Cat
    Meh

    So?

    Show me someone older than 30 who hasn't done some questionable things in their youth that they would rather not have done. Harry's list of faux pas seems tame compared to some less public people I know.

    The only difference is that Harry is young enough that these things were more easily recorded and spread to the Internet; and royal enough that tabloids and gossip mags are interested in doing so.

    He's entitle to his opinion, and we're entitled to listen or ignore as we choose. Personally, I'd say that anything fun can get addictive if you've not much self-control, and I wouldn't let my kids play it without the teamspeak disabled, or at least restricted to known friends only.

  15. samkam
    Devil

    Best Text for a Long Time

    "The Prince's comments serve as a periodic reminder that despite an enormous effort and the seemingly bottomless goodwill of the UK press and general public, the Royal Family remains dedicated to its core mission of remaining firmly out-of-touch while considering itself to be a moral and ethical guiding light for a society that continues to pay for its gilded existence out of some combination of longing for past glories and pity."

    1. LDS Silver badge

      I hoped that Brexit would have banned...

      ... the Windsors soap opera from European media. But it looks there is a large enough share of people that is badly addicted to these useless people lives and their idiotic "events", even outside UK.

      It's in many ways more worrisome than Fortnite, the latter will eventually go, those people unluckily reproduce, having nothing else to do.

      1. Fred Dibnah

        Re: I hoped that Brexit would have banned...

        The media in the USA is also crazy about the royals. It's probably because they can enjoy the soap opera without having to pay for it.

        1. LDS Silver badge

          "without having to pay for it"

          Are yo sure? They don't publish their lives for free - there's big money made there, media do pay for that.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: I hoped that Brexit would have banned...

        Come On, in Brexit, we see a 1'st world nation have a collective psychotic episode over it's narcissism being thwarted. It is such a debacle that they totally have to stuff the media bandwidth with royal and celebrity inanities to create some semblance of normality.

        1. Geoffrey W Silver badge

          Re: I hoped that Brexit would have banned...

          Brexit is what happens when blind dogma takes precedence over considered pragmatism. And ERG members have the nerve to say that Marxists are dangerous and should never be allowed to run the country. Self awareness is not their strongest super power.

  16. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    He's done alright

    Even with an absent father....

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: He's done alright

      Mr Hewitt took the subtle hints and made himself scarce.

      If he hadn't the writing may have been on the wall for him to. You know....Mercedes Benz....on the side of the tunnel...

      1. MJI Silver badge

        Re: He's done alright

        The Hewitt jokes are a bit shit really. Ginger came from Spencer side.

        He reminds me of one person, a lot.

        Duke of Edinburgh.

        Then everything he does makes sense.

        1. Voyna i Mor Silver badge

          Re: He's done alright

          Odd that that post was downvoted. Are there actually two people who approve of both the Spencers and the DofE?

  17. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    A lengthy and witty ad hominem

    is still an ad hominem.

    1. Geoffrey W Silver badge

      Re: A lengthy and witty ad hominem

      Ad hominems are not de facto bad. Sometimes it's perfectly OK to attack a person personally. Especially gingers.

  18. Compuserve User
    Pint

    Prince Harry doesn't have any real responsibilities and will probably not sit on the throne, so he is free to make all kinds of whimsical comments that get media exposure for 15 minutes and then the issue disappears in the ether. We are all entitled to our opinion. Harry has done some remarkable things (research them if you must) and I agree with him in principle. If we were living in a world of 1980 where kids can go playing out after dark safely or after tea go play on your spectrum or commodore, then there should be no obesity in children and more future competitors in the Olympics.

    Unfortunately it is not 1980 or 1990, knife crime is on the rise and kids have to stay home where it is safe. We had Team Fortress for frickin ever, and nobody complained about the violence in that game. It is like a cartoon, just like Bugs Bunny cartoons and the violence that was contained in each episode was much worse. So kids relate to cartoon as not being real. I notice Harry doesn't refer to call of duty or CSGO which I bet he is an avid player.

    If Harry wants a change in social media and violent comic type video games, maybe he should resolve the gang and knife crime problems in the UK, so the kids can you out and play like we did in 1980. He deserves a pint for trying, but something tells me he won't even think about it.

    1. Rich 11 Silver badge

      and kids have to stay home where it is safe

      I pity your kids.

      1. Teiwaz Silver badge

        and kids have to stay home where it is safe

        Also neglected to note that in some cases 'kids' are out doing the knifing.

        i hope his haven't been 'Boo Radley'ed....

    2. Voyna i Mor Silver badge

      I believe getting more public exposure for a mental health charity is a small step towards reducing violent crime. Jo Cox, for instance, was murdered by someone of very dubious mental stability who had been exposed to the more evil people on social media.

      I'm not an American, I live in a country where the law says that what you say can be as bad as what you do. And I tend to agree. In the US, a Hitler would have his speech protected and be free to surround himself with intimidating, armed followers. In Germany, he'd go to prison. We're in between the extremes, videlicet Rees-Mogg and Tommy Robinson (Tweedledum and Tweedledee of the far right), and I think there's a lot to be said for that. But if Mair had been taken seriously, Jo Cox might still be alive.

  19. Mike Brown

    Outstanding stuff guys.

    1. Fred Dibnah
      Thumb Up

      Are you Bogbrush in disguise?

  20. wolfetone Silver badge
    Coat

    I'd say like father like son, but I don't recall James Hewitt coming out with utter crap like this.

  21. defiler Silver badge

    "he and his wife launched an Instagram account earlier this week amid great fanfare"

    ...and apparently swiped some poor bugger's Instagram handle without so much as a by-your-leave.

    Not exactly any skin off my nose, but that one seemed rather rude.

  22. Chris G Silver badge

    The article has the tone of someone with an axe to grind having the luck to find a platform where they can indulge themselves.

    I don't care about our royal family beyond the fact that the monarch is the legal head of what passes for a British constitution.

    There are dozens of other higher profile celebs with far less savoury pasts who feel obliged to impart their notions of wisdom to the world. Perhaps Keiron could do a weekly hatchet column so that we can laugh at all of them.

    As for the game, never heard of it so I guess I am uninformed.

    1. Teiwaz Silver badge

      There are dozens of other higher profile celebs with far less savoury pasts who feel obliged to impart their notions of wisdom to the world. Perhaps Keiron could do a weekly hatchet column so that we can laugh at all of them.

      I would like to second that.

      Maybe that arse Russell Brand?

      For one reason or another we've been forced onto this 1984 vibe, we might as well make use of the more cathartic 2 minute thing.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      re. There are dozens of other higher profile celebs

      I beg to differ, in this age of free information, the plebs should be made aware of such outbursts of wisdom from our masters, as we're supposed to emulate their enlightened ways. Not that the register is first to report, it was splatted all over their site by the watchful beeb yesterday, if not a few days back.

  23. jmch Silver badge
    Happy

    Hahahaha!!!

    Brilliant, El Reg!

    Justr what I needed on a Friday morning!

  24. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    If only we could all have an 84 Million pound (or 300 million depending on who you ask) royal grant to live off ... then we could all go about solving the world's problems.

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    1. Teiwaz Silver badge

      What's believing in god got to do with it?

      The whole institution of royalty is that their ancestors were more ruthless bullies than everyone elses.

      The whole 'god-given right' thing is bollocks.

      Two thousand years of stealing others lunch money.

      1. Chris G Silver badge

        @Teiwaz.

        Royalty and royal blood is no more meaningful than being holy, the biggest difference between kings and popes is that the latter recognise mo borders at all. The royal and the holy still have to take a dump on a regular basis qnd smell no better than anybody else.

        By the way, I bet my sword is bigger than yours!

        1. Voyna i Mor Silver badge

          Given Brexit and the tabloids, Kipling is more relevant than ever:

          "Holy priesthood, holy king, holy People's Will,

          Have no truck with the senseless thing, order the guns and kill!"

          (He was supporting the view that the only proper form of government is by elected representatives. Kipling might have been an imperialist, but he was a pro-British style democracy imperialist.)

  26. RobertLongshaft

    James Hewitts son should keep his trap shut. You're not a real prince and we know who your father is.............

    1. MJI Silver badge

      That joke is too effing old

      I am bored with it, bored, bored, bored.

      If it was funny perhaps?

      No, boring.

      Harry will get more entertaining, just like his paternal grandfather. Prince Phillip makes me laugh.

      1. DavCrav Silver badge

        Re: That joke is too effing old

        "That joke is too effing old

        I am bored with it, bored, bored, bored."

        Well, I believe it's not a joke. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he were Hewitt's son.

        1. MJI Silver badge

          Re: That joke is too effing old

          Hewitt

          Just not possible as Hewitt is not the son of Prince Phillip.

          Look at the pair of them Harry is a chip off the DoE block.

          I find it so funny as people really get wound up by Prince Phillip, then get similar by Harry.

          I get great enjoyment out of people getting wound up like that as it makes them out to be fools.

          Oh and look at those ears!

  27. rg287 Bronze badge

    Streisand Effect?

    Ironically of course, not being on Instawank I would be entirely - and blissfully - unaware of this latest missive from the house of Hewitt/Spencer/Windsor/Markle had Kieren not been so thoughtful as to deem it news worthy of my (or anyone's) attention.

    So yeah. Thanks for that.

  28. Steve K Silver badge

    Eton Fees

    the £14,000 a year Eton elite boarding school

    I think you'll find that Eton fees are around £13,556 per term...

    1. Korev Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: Eton Fees

      Yes, ElReg Eton Messed that up

  29. Mycho Silver badge

    Can we go back to the days when we got addicted to whittling sticks for hours each day? Sharp objects fix everything.

  30. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The game Fortnite should be banned

    I would say what I think about such (...) of wisdom, but this would be illegal and punishable in a democratic country like the UK.

    btw, Silly, silly boy. Sorry, silly bearded boy!

  31. RonWheeler

    Cheap

    Now I'm not a fan of royalty, but a bunch of cheap ad hominem attacks like this is beneath even The Reg. Surely?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Cheap

      Now I'm not a fan of royalty, but a bunch of cheap ad hominem attacks like this is beneath even The Reg. Surely?

      Wouldn't be the first time. They've gone right off the deep end about Elon Musk in the past. Not drinking the Kool-Aid is one thing, but there was at least one hatchet job that was quietly and significantly edited after 2 hours (with no Errata or notes at the bottom) and a bunch of comments deleted.

      Possibly they'd posted a draft (before a subeditor had gone through with a red pen and asked for all the sources and citations).

      Either way, it wasn't - and isn't - a good look. El Reg maybe a Red Top, but it's not (supposed to be) The Sun. Fortunately such lapses in judgement are rare.

      1. DavCrav Silver badge

        Re: Cheap

        "They've gone right off the deep end about Elon Musk in the past."

        Betcha a signed dollar they didn't call him a paedophile.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Cheap

          Betcha a signed dollar they didn't call him a paedophile.

          Oh this was well before that, when Musk's only crime was being a bit bombastic. Such a piece might be reasonable today, but it wasn't then.

          The tenor of the article implied that Musk had personally pissed in the author's cereal that morning and the whole article was riddled with factual and objective errors (which were pointed out in the later-deleted comments - we spend our lives reading between the lines of nonsense from Security Vendors. Most people here can smell bullshit from 5 miles!).

          Calling it a hatchet job was generous. Borderline libel more like (which presumably is why it was heavily edited). It was below El Reg then, and it remains so now.

  32. Trollslayer Silver badge

    He also went back

    to Afghanistan for a second tour after a close friend died there.

    A little balance helps.

  33. Kickstone

    Sweaty tryhard

    Gamer myself, now my 8 year old son is. We were always close, but games have made us even closer. Nothing better than a Friday night, extra cheese pizza's in the oven, firing both Xbox's up and trying to blow the virtual sh*t out of each other.

    Harry really needs to stop trying to impress and get his own house in order. I'm sure the relationship I have with my son will be a lot healthier than the one he's about to have with his own privileged offspring.

  34. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    He doesn't think

    He's so under the thumb that he merely repaets that which his vile, golddigging, harridan of a wife tells him to repeat

  35. The Nazz Silver badge

    Part II. A sequel. A follow up, pretty please.

    Nice job.

    I now look forward to the same on that Megan Sparkle lass.

    Tbh, I do have a little sympathy for the lad, no way on earth would i ever want an upbringing like he's had. Never was a fan of Princess Diana.

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