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Over the past two Earth days, NASA released pics of China's Moon lander, SpaceX saw a Falcon delay to its Crew Dragon and the UK failed to name the ExoMars rover Rover McRoverface. SpaceX and Boeing commercial crew flights slide to the right A year has passed since SpaceX fired up Musk's mighty Falcon Heavy but the Demo-1 …

  1. 0laf Silver badge
    Alien

    Space?

    I thought space was 100km not 82 (Kármán line)?

    1. Anonymous Coward Silver badge
      Windows

      Re: Space?

      They've changed the specification to match their own reality.

      Like what happens with virtually all software projects.

    2. imanidiot Silver badge

      Re: Space?

      Leave it to the US to come up with their own definition of what the rest of the world agrees upon.

      The US gives anybody that reaches 80+ km participation medals astronaut wings.

      1. imanidiot Silver badge
        Trollface

        Re: Space?

        Looks live Mark "Forger" Stucky and Frederick "CJ" Sturckow both visit El Reg

      2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        Re: Space?

        "The US gives anybody that reaches 80+ km participation medals astronaut wings."

        Something will have to change once these vanity flights become more commonplace. Or there's going to be very regular ceremonies in Washington or wherever.

      3. Dom 3

        Re: Space?

        The US definition predates the other. Discussion at the end of this page:

        https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/news/X-Press/stories/2005/102105_Schneider.html

        Essentially the 50 mile point is where it's no longer an aeroplane - there's nothing for *control* surfaces to work on. The 62 mile point is where - in order to maintain altitude - you've got to be doing orbital velocities anyway for your wings to generate sufficient lift.

  2. DropBear Silver badge

    Le Sigh...

    "NASA reckons that more testing, verification, reviewing and training is needed before any blue touchpaper can be lit."

    Anyone still wondering how ideas like "move fast and break things" could have possibly ended up being touted as a Good Thing - now you know. Because of exactly this sort of bollocks.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Le Sigh...

      NASA always moves slowly because they can't get past the Van Allen belts.

      Has anyone spotted the problem with all the rocks on the moon pictures yet? That's right, they are sitting in aeons of smooth dust: but have no dust on them at all.

      How does a rock in a vacuum get to sit in a smooth dust field and not get dusty? How did it get there? How did the dust find it's way around to surround it so perfectly? What keeps the dust from ever settling on top?

      1. Voyna i Mor Silver badge

        Re: Le Sigh...

        All right. So NASA has been concealing the truth about the lunar cleaning lady all these years.

        Alternatively in a vacuum anything capable of forming hydrogen bonds tends to be lost, so there's no adhesion between dust particles and a surface. Which means that as the surface temperature rises and falls between day and night, expansion and contraction of the rock gradually will cause dust to roll off. (There are other things that might have this effect). On the Moon,once dust has fallen to the lowest level, there's no wind to lift it again. The only new dust is due to micrometeorite bombardment and surface cracking.

        ...how did such a clueless AC find its way to El Reg? A much bigger mystery.

  3. Simon Harris Silver badge

    Alternative name for the Brit Mars bot.

    Roy of the Rovers?

    1. arctic_haze Silver badge

      Re: Alternative name for the Brit Mars bot.

      It is leaving the Earth. So maybe Earthxit?

      1. Glen 1 Bronze badge
        Joke

        Re: Alternative name for the Brit Mars bot.

        So *Thats* where the sunlit uplands are

  4. raygdunn
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    UK failed to name the ExoMars rover Rover McRoverface

    Thank god for that.

    Nice they are giving one of our UK pioneers more exposure.

    Rosalind Elsie Franklin

    https://www.thoughtco.com/rosalind-franklin-biography-3530347

    Sadly lost to cancer.

  5. MajDom

    Interesting. No mention of Airbus. Another article indicative of the new UK propagandistic "reality."

    1. phuzz Silver badge
      WTF?

      Why would they mention Airbus?

      The first part is about Boeing and SpaceX's respective spacecraft, no Airbus involvement there.

      The second part is about LRO taking pictures of Chang'e 4, again, neither built by Airbus.

      The third part is about the ExoMars rover, that's being built by Thales.

      The forth part is about Skyora, still no reason for Airbus to be name checked

      And finally there's a few paragraphs about Virgin Galactic.

      So which of these stories has an Airbus angle that elReg are cruelly censoring? The only space related Airbus news I can find is that they're building a satellite for a Japanese telecoms company, not really very interesting.

      1. Simon Harris Silver badge

        Unless I'm missing something Thales were responsible for Schiaparelli but Airbus are indeed building the ExoMars rover.

        http://exploration.esa.int/mars/56912-schiaparelli-at-thales-alenia-space/

        https://www.airbus.com/space/space-exploration/exomars.html

        Having said that, Thales and Airbus do have a partnership on many projects, so I wouldn't be surprised if they both have a hand in it.

        1. phuzz Silver badge

          I should have done more than 30s of research.

      2. MajDom

        "Why would they mention Airbus?"

        To inform people like you. Thales, which is a French group, delivered part of the rover's tech to AIRBUS, which is a European company (mostly non-UK) and built the rover (assembled in UK). Some of the involved sites happen to be in the UK. Calling it a "Brit" bot is acceptable (although slightly wishful thinking), but NOT mentioning Europe (with the exception of ESA) is specious.

  6. Marketing Hack Silver badge
    Stop

    Rosalind Franklin???

    Most...tortuous...backronym...ever!!!

    Rover

    On

    Surface

    mArs

    Looking

    Independently

    ....

    (Aww, f**k it! I'm done.)

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Rosalind Franklin???

      Rover On Surface And Looking IN Depth For Real Atmospheric aNd Kaolin-Like InformatioN

      *phew*

      That'll have to do...

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Good article about Forger here: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/08/20/virgin-galactics-rocket-man/amp

  8. Chairman of the Bored Silver badge
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    My kind of people!

    So the first thing the Scottish build when contemplating rocket science is a still? Oh, heck yeah. I'm all in.

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