back to article Senior slippery sex stimulator sales exec sacked for shafting .org-asmic cyber-space place, a tribunal hears

A senior exec at a British biz that makes and sells sex aids was sacked after he shifted the company's website from a .org to a .com in its branding, an employment tribunal heard this week. Head of sales and marketing at Yes Yes Yes, Ciaran Arstall, wanted to promote the firm's dot-com website over its original yesyesyes.org …

  1. Bush_rat

    What a slip up.

    At least he wasn't fired for lube conduct?

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I want to market a lubricant called Lubri-CAN - There’s no such word as “can’t”

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      “I Can’t Believe It’s Hot Butter”

    2. imanidiot Silver badge
      Coat

      Better ship the product in cans then. I shall be very disappointed if I can not buy a can of lubri-can.

  3. Sampler
    FAIL

    Well, still an idiot

    If they switched from .org to .com but didn't retain the .org as a redirect (which is not clear in the article but a presumption from the drop in sales) than he is indeed a bit of an idiot.

    1. Corwin_X

      Re: Well, still an idiot

      He's an utter idiot. I got the .org[asm] pun instantly, as would many of their customers, and appreciate it.

      1. David 132 Silver badge

        Re: Well, still an idiot

        OTOH, isn’t the .org TLD intended for non-profit organizations and charities? I certainly wouldn’t expect to find a personal lubricants business in that namespace, unless they were nobly crusading to ease the chafed naughty bits of the world’s poor.

        1. caffeine addict Silver badge

          Re: Well, still an idiot

          Since when was any TLD used as intended?

          1. Captain Hogwash Silver badge
            Coat

            Re: Well, still an idiot

            Exactly. See trashbat.co.ck

          2. Alex McDonald (NetApp)
            Paris Hilton

            Re: Well, still an idiot

            .eu is surely about to become the exception to “not working as intended” since I won’t be able to get one.

        2. JimboSmith Silver badge

          Re: Well, still an idiot

          OTOH, isn’t the .org TLD intended for non-profit organizations and charities? I certainly wouldn’t expect to find a personal lubricants business in that namespace, unless they were nobly crusading to ease the chafed naughty bits of the world’s poor.

          From memory it was decided that the .org was designed to be used by charitable organisations but that wouldn't be compulsory. So the lube firm are fine.

          1. caffeine addict Silver badge

            Re: Well, still an idiot

            Well, using lube quite often results in a sizeable dona -

            I'm sorry. I don't know what I was thinking...

    2. Dabooka Silver badge

      Re: Well, still an idiot

      Exactly this.

      My own blog has both .com and .co.uk for crying out loud, and I'm not exactly a million pound buisness. It certainly sounds like a decision only a Muppet would make not retaining the .org (or at least mothballing it) so assume he did this to prove a point? Why else wouldn't you keep and use both?

    3. Martin Gregorie Silver badge

      Re: Well, still an idiot

      If they switched from .org to .com but didn't retain the .org as a redirect

      They did retain yesyesyes.org. Both it and yesyesyes.com reference the same IP (in the Amazon cloud) though they use different mailservers. A (cautious) check with lynx shows the same front page from both directions - as you'd expect seeing that both point at the same IP.

      1. Mike Moyle Silver badge

        Re: Well, still an idiot

        "They did retain yesyesyes.org. Both it and yesyesyes.com reference the same IP (in the Amazon cloud)..."

        So, they swing both ways. That's nice.

    4. this

      Re: Well, still an idiot

      yesyesyes.org is up and running. Just checked.

  4. Khaptain Silver badge

    Alternative

    If it had been .cum then that I would have understood.

  5. Giovani Tapini

    He is now slipping down the greasy pole

    He clearly has little idea about how the internet works. Or that people have bookmarked the site. Many people use bookmarks and forget the domain entirely, like contacts on phone where you only now recall your own number.

    Indeed if I site suddenly changed like that my first assumption would be that it's an imposter and not to be trusted at all.

    They are well rid of him...

    1. Simon Harris Silver badge

      Re: He is now slipping down the greasy pole

      "you only now recall your own number."

      The only number you need to remember when you can't recall where you left your mobile phone.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    This just proves

    .... that he's yet another man who has no idea what a woman wants.

  7. GreggS

    He couldn't get it up.

    Sales that is.

    What were you lot thinking?

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Arstall

    What a appropriate name

  9. James Wilson

    Viagra is a "back-to-back bonking drug"?

    How does that work exactly? Front-to-back I can get (on a good day) but that one's beyond me and I fail to see how even Viagra is going to help.

  10. imanidiot Silver badge

    Stop your whimpering

    and take it like a man. Sounds like this guy screwed up and didn't want to admit it, souring work relations. He had 3 years to take the hint and leave of his own accord.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Viagra is a "back-to-back bonking drug"?

      What can point in can also point out at the same time

      Large double ended butt plug anyone? Not sure if it would work too well though, and definitely not about to search for it currently.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Viagra is a "back-to-back bonking drug"?

        FYI there's a form at the bottom of the page where you can start your own thread.

    2. tapemonkey

      Re: Viagra is a "back-to-back bonking drug"?

      Well as a back to back drug it turns two men into a very useful hat stand

    3. Simon Harris Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: Viagra is a "back-to-back bonking drug"?

      I could tell you, but it would reveal way too much about my porn viewing habits.

      Mine's the one with the suspicious objects in the pockets ----->

    4. MyffyW Silver badge

      Re: Viagra is a "back-to-back bonking drug"?

      The Uncle Hank scene from "Requiem for a Dream" comes to mind for some reason.

      [shudder]

    5. Gordon 10 Silver badge
      Joke

      Re: Viagra is a "back-to-back bonking drug"?

      What do you mean - have you never heard of the beast with 2 fronts?

    6. eldakka Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: Viagra is a "back-to-back bonking drug"?

      I can see two possibilities:

      1) it's a boast about length (what? you can't do it back-to-back?);

      2) there are more than 2 people involved (3-some, 4-some, orgy).

  11. Groaning Ninny

    Linkedin says....

    Well, he's good at marketing *himself*, if nothing else....

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ciaranjarstall/

    "Tenacious, accomplished and entrepreneurial Head of Sales and Marketing with consolidated expertise in B2B / B2C sales, marketing and business development, product development, market access, financial control, turnaround strategies and partnership building.

    Demonstrable successes in launching new products, managing adaptive campaigns, utilising strong consumer insight and delivering strategic brand and product support / training gained through a progressive 20-year career in the FMCG sector.

    Autonomous and trusted senior executive with a track record in driving business growth and performance through the leadership of multi-functional teams and collaboration with external partners, distributors, retailers, wholesalers and customers."

    1. herman Silver badge

      Re: Linkedin says....

      That was copied and pasted straight off resumebuzzword.com

      1. Roland6 Silver badge
        Joke

        Re: Linkedin says....

        >That was copied and pasted straight off resumebuzzword.com

        I think if you look further down his resume, you will see he worked for resumebuzzword.com as a copywriter....

      2. Sampler

        Re: resumebuzzword.com

        I'm pretty upset to find that resumebuzzword.com isn't an actual thing...

    2. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: Linkedin says....

      consolidated expertise in ... turnaround strategies

      Well, that bit is honest.

  12. GrumpenKraut Silver badge
    Facepalm

    "used strong language"

    Now, THAT is bad! Where is my nano-scale violin when I need it?

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    People, people. We seem to be missing the point here.

    Out on the interwebs right now are hundreds of people confused why their bookmarked intimate lube provider is no longer working.... and so are having to go in dry.

    It will end in tears.

  14. Moosh

    Is the word "executive" thrown around like candy in Sales? Because honestly that salary is not what I was expecting.

    1. imanidiot Silver badge

      Yes. Though in this case from the article it seems his title was: Head of sales and marketing. The exec bit seems to have been put in by El Reg.

      Sales drones seem to be the type that feel the need for a fancy title on their little "business cards" just to get a sense of validation. Can't go into a meeting with ANYONE with the title of "sales droid". That would be embarrassing. How could one POSSIBLY sell anything. Now if they're meeting with the "Head of sales and marketing" they'll feel they're dealing with someone who has some pull in the company and get them a good deal! Instead of the reality of getting even more royally shafted.

  15. keithpeter

    "Both Brooks, 58, and cofounder Susi Lennox, 73, decided to start the company when they grew tired of their jobs in the drug safety departments of various pharmaceutical companies."

    I wonder how many people who work with detailed regulations and checklists all day dream of starting a small business selling something outrageous? These two actually did and seem to be fairly successful. They perhaps need to consult more widely about changes to their Internet presence however.

  16. arctic_haze Silver badge

    That kind of moronism is not rare

    I work in a research institution which has the same Internet domain from 1992. Every few years some "genius" proposes to "improve" it, forgetting that for over 25 years of our research people all over the world have added email addresses with that domain to their address books. Also all our research papers have the corresponding author's email address in that domain. We now have two domains and I dread the dey when a pointy-hair manager decides to save on the old one. However it will not be done soon because... the old one is painted on the wall of our main building in letters larger than a grown manager.

    For full transparency, I'll add that I'm partial because I chose and registered the original domain of the company (the one painted on the building) in the time my bosses had no idea what Internet is.

  17. LateAgain
    Facepalm

    SEO is a ridiculous pain

    When someone says that it's important just ask them for the rules that the search engine is working on

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