back to article Huawei CEO defiant on security claims, vows to be so good, 'no market can keep us away'

Increasingly in the crosshairs of government paranoia and beset by its place in the US-China trade war, Huawei's rotating chairman Guo Ping has come out swinging in a letter to staff. There's no denying the Chinese giant's networks business is under pressure. The USA, Australia and New Zealand have officially blocked its kit …

  1. stiine Bronze badge
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    Are you sure you've removed the NSA hacks from the Cisco software you copied to run on the Cisco hardware you copied?

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  3. Andre Carneiro

    “Will never be”...

    I am more than half tempted to believe they never were a security threat, but I absolutely do not buy the promise that they never will be so.

    I think there’s probably good reason for some degree of paranoia, but then again all major state actors are rotten apples from the same rotting tree...

    1. Frank Gerlach #2

      Re: “Will never be”...

      All the "unfortunate bugs" (buffer overflows, invalid pointer accesses, bad parsers, hardware bugs) will be for all practical matters be indistinguishable to backdoors. They can be introduced by mistake or not by mistake. But of course they can be "explained" as "mistakes".

      And the government folks who inspect Huwaei gear in Britain will most likely not find many of these "bugs", given their track record.

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  4. Kaufman

    "“For such serious decisions like a ban, you need proof,” Arne Schoenbohm, told news weekly Spiegel, confirming that the BSI had no such evidence." This coming from Germany's BSI chief speaks volumes. Germany, is by far the most significant market in the EU. Unfortunately, you would never see this in any of the five eyes news media. Since there are no other alternatives to Huawei's technology as the next closest competitor is about 12 months away from catching the UK will not be banning Huawei as they're already in the advanced stages of completion. Canada may or may not how to US pressure is difficult to say after the trade war dispute, but other than a couple of countries banning them Huawei will still be installing $100s of billions worth of 5G networks around the world . Not having that technology will put every other country at a disadvantage.

    1. Frank Gerlach #2

      A full Huawei-Telecoms network will expose you to a "total telecoms shutdown" in case of serious tension. E2E Encryption won't help you against this threat.

      1. gnarlwood

        That's totally correct. The amount of down voting on such factual observations tells you the 50c army is signed up and on the job.

    2. Bush_rat

      I hate spy stuff...

      Cause you can never have a serious discussion. Germany says there's no evidence of Huawei doing wrong, but The Five Eyes all act like they are. Is it because The Five Eyes have information Germany does not, or is it because The Five Eyes are wrong, or is it totally malicious reasons like economics and xenophobia? Nobody is going to say, because even their secrets have secrets. So all we're left to do is shurg our shoulders, have a pint and wait for all this to blow over.

  5. Frank Gerlach #2


    "Thanks" for removing factual information.

  6. Commswonk Silver badge

    From the Article...

    We have a very strong track record in cybersecurity. Huawei has never and will never present a security threat."

    To (mis)quote Mandy Rice - Davies:

    He would say that, wouldn't he.

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: From the Article...

      The trouble is that Intel, Microsoft, CISCO, IBM etc all also say that, and all also rely on friendly relations with America's 3 letter agencies.

      1. arthoss

        Re: From the Article...

        Yeah I think regardless where it comes from you should always believe there is a backdoor in any software

      2. gnarlwood

        Re: From the Article...

        No doubt you believe they're all spying on you personally.

  7. hellwig Silver badge

    "Our product is so great, everyone wants it, including the Iranians"

    Yeah, see, I don't think you understand why you were being punished. If you don't show contrition, the government IS going to keep pursuing the matter.

  8. Anonymous Coward
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    How does this work after "Brexit"?

    The Americans say ban them. The Chinese say don't.

    So do we have to pick which country to have the trade "deal" with because they all know that we are "over a barrel"?

    1. Voland's right hand Silver badge

      Re: How does this work after "Brexit"?

      So do we have to pick which country to have the trade "deal" with because they all know that we are "over a barrel"?

      Not really. We can have a trade deal with any country.

      Now, what the benefits and the terms of it would be is a different story. Very different one...

      I believe the Eu has demonstrated what does it mean discussing the sharing of a banana with a 800 pound Gorilla. Anyone with delusions that a Third World(*) country will have more productive discussion with China or USA, please share what you are smoking.

      (*)Or quoting Margaret Thatcher quote about USSR: "Upper Volta with Nuclear Missiles"

  9. Anonymous Coward
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    Recruitment: Policy-makers might find it a little chilling that the company's practice of hiring international researchers remains a priority. "We will continue to open our arms and embrace scientists from around the world," Ping said.

    Well, how about the enlightened west sponsoring them instead?

    To put it bluntly, the only source of money if you are working on something around IETF at present is Huawei. Other standards bodies are also pretty much in the same boat.

    Sure, Huawei _IS_ buying influence in these standards bodies wholesale both directly and by sponsoring academics which contribute. Any claims that it is chilling are warranted. Any claims that it is clandestine - not really. They are filling the void which Cisco, Juniper, Nokia, Telcos and governments have left behind. With the expected result.

    Anon (for obvious reasons).

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Sigh...

      BBC goes in more detail in an extensive article about Chinese espionage:

      And I agree the West could be more generous about sponsoring research. The present situation makes for easy pickings for China.

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