back to article US military base stores pull Huawei, ZTE kit off the shelves

America's Department of Defense has banned all Huawei and ZTE devices from sale in all Defense Exchanges - the shops offered to military personnel and veterans. The ban was confirmed by DoD spokesperson David Eastburn, who told Stars & Stripes the Defense Department's undersecretary for personnel and readiness issued a ban …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    ?

    "In February, the directors of the NSA, CIA, FBI, National Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency and National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency testified to the US Senate that they worried about Huawei and ZTE being part of China's intelligence-gathering apparatus."

    What about the NSA, CIA, FBI, National Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency and National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency and their intelligence-gathering apparatus (on it's own people}?.

    1. sanmigueelbeer Silver badge

      Re: ?

      What about the NSA, CIA, FBI, National Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency and National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency and their intelligence-gathering apparatus (on it's own people}?

      They're fine. They know what they're doing (I hope).

      1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

        Re: ?

        They're fine. They know what they're doing (I hope). ..... sanmigueelbeer

        All the evidence is proving otherwise, sanmigueelbeer. And that is offering more than just hope to a whole host of others capable of leading whatever they have a notion to control in any number of alternate directions with a highly disruptive command.

        And it makes for an exciting future which forces fake news media outlets to dig ever deeper holes for themselves as they deny there be anything more truthful to share and/or would try to prevent presentation of evidence proving the matter.

    2. RRJ

      Re: ?

      And the rest of the world.. OK for the US to spy on all of us.. but not OK.. for someone else to do this..

      1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

        Re: The Singularity ?

        And the rest of the world.. OK for the US to spy on all of us.. but not OK.. for someone else to do this.. ..... RRJ

        Howdy RRJ,

        Give the US something Vital for the Future to spy on and they can be led in any desired desirable direction simply by Searching and Following Shared Virtual Lead .... to a Common Goal with Immaculate Beginnings ..... Fresh RAW Starts.

        How about, rather than governments and businesses and banking and insurance reacting to costly events, they use the very convenient and inexhaustible fiat currency supply machine to much better Future Greater IntelAIgent Games Use. You know, those Titanic Arenas in which Colossal AI Programs eMerge to Present a Virtualised Reality DreamScape for Exceptional TerraPhorming.

        To propose a smart interesting percentage, to be easily considered and offered by current fiat currency business drivers, of the total sum printed globally in order to facilitate and not destroy the Business for Profit and Debt Business, would have Simple Fiat, Greater IntelAIgent Games Servering Future ESPecially Tailored Events, Autonomously Automatically Securely Credited to the Right Magical Account which is Constantly Under Anonymous Bankers Control .... if Absolute Command in the Future is Unavailable/Forbidden/Denied/History with Experience showing it to be Thoroughly Discredited Path ...... Dead End Root/AIRoute.

        Make that Happen, and the Register is Witness, and the Tale will be Real Enough to be True and when the Truth be Told .... Real Enough to be Leading Futures and Derivative Markets into the Future, where they are Welcomed and FETEd with Simple Fiat, Greater IntelAIgent Games Servering Future ESPecially Tailored Events.

        It aint rocket science, Creating New Worlds from Scratch and Base Zeros, it is designedly more easily provided so with IT and AI, a COSMIC Art to Perfectly Master and Server with/for Succour/Future Needs and Feeds with Virtualised Seeds ...... for Faultless Delivery of Immaculate Provision.

        Does that Engine require AI Patenting or is its Sterling Worth in Its Unique Unseen Actions which Test and Improve on Future Absolute Remote Command?

        1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

          Re: The Singularity .... a DARPA Delicacy on a Pigs' Breakfast of a Virtual Mission?

          And it is not a lonely space whenever there be A.N.Others doing not dissimilar work? ..... http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/deep-fakes-versus-deep-state-what-to-do-when-you-cant-tell-whats-real/

          1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

            Re: The Singularity .... a DARPA Delicacy on a Pigs' Breakfast of a Virtual Mission?

            Evidence of more company starting down Vital Trails for Secure Provision of Immaculate Trials ....... https://www.rt.com/usa/425858-cybercom-combatant-command-nsa/

            I wonder if that will create Conflict and Competition and Opposition in the Face of and instead COSMIC Opportunity/Worthy Wilde Worldly Expectation?

            Would Anyone Authorised to speak for and on Behalf of UKGBNI Command CyberIntelAIgent Control Forces Care to Share and Venture News on the Current Readiness State of Virtual Defences?

            Are there any impossible to breach or are all subject to catastrophic remote exploitation and total defeat and/or avoidance and evasion ?

            And don't forget or ignore the possibility, and therefore likelihood, of a Sino-Soviet PACT [Persistent Advanced Cyber Treat/Threat] too

  2. Alan J. Wylie

    Today's NCSC advice

    ZTE: NCSC advice to select telecommunications operators with national security concerns

    The NCSC has issued advice to a limited number of UK telecommunications operators regarding the potential use of ZTE equipment and services. ... NCSC assess that the national security risks arising from the use of ZTE equipment or services within the context of the existing UK telecommunications infrastructure cannot be mitigated

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Meh

    Byo - Build you own

    If Australia did that they wouldn't have any mobile apparatus to use !

    Most major ISP's dole out Huawei dongles for Hotspots or Mobile broadband ethernet.

    But then mobile phones are just hacks in a convenient handheld carry around device.

  4. markrand

    I could understand suspicions about Cisco Meraki or HP Aruba, why worry any more about Huawei and ZTE?

  5. mhenriday
    Boffin

    If one can't compete,

    one can always ban one's competitors. And there can hardly be a better pretext than appealing to «national security»....

    Henri

  6. CIA

    Huawei is a tramp in the industry. They have stolen technology from every vendor they ever partnered with... LSI, Cisco, T-Mobile, Motorola, British Telecomm... I toured Huawei's facility when I worked at Hitachi. They did their best to try to coax inside information out of us during meetings. If they have great phones, bring them in, sell them, but secure them. Wait... we can't secure the ones we already have... so it hardly makes a difference now does it?

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