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The police force covering the base of the UK's electronic spy agency, GCHQ, in Cheltenham, England, has admitted that it has spent nothing at all on cybercrime training over the past few years. Gloucestershire Police, whose patch, ironically, covers the sigint specialists' headquarters, said it had just 11 trained cybercrime …

  1. Whitter
    Meh

    Pre-trained

    It seems they didn't ask whether any of the forces have actively recruited new officers who already had their "cyber security" credentials, which is odd given that it is their #2 conclusion.

    (Granted, there would still be costs in maintaining people's skill levels too).

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I've spoken to the guys doing cybercrime investigations in Scotland. They are criminally under resourced. Pun intended.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      I've had to use them in the past, they try their best but there's only a handful for the whole of Scotland. Skill wise I've no idea where they are as we've only had forensics in once and the cyber crime folk didn't do any of that.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Be interesting how this compares to money spent on diversity training

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      >Be interesting how this compares to money spent on diversity training

      Or actual Policing rather than potted plants (no not those) for HQ.

      1. Robert Helpmann??
        Childcatcher

        Yes, it would be interesting and perhaps more informative to see a breakdown of costs per officer for each jurisdiction, both in percentage and absolute terms. Context is important.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Be interesting how this compares to money spent on diversity training

      Over a decade out of date, only one force, but rather worrying:

      https://www.standard.co.uk/news/outrage-as-police-spend-450m-on-equality-and-diversity-7185908.html

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Altruism only goes so far

    “increase recruitment of officers with existing cyber skills”

    Just have a look at the salaries being offered by the Police Forces currently recruiting - you don't get an apprentice for that in the corporate world, let alone a trained, experienced analyst.

    Am I going to take a mahooosive pay cut to go back and work in Law Enforcement? Nah!

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Altruism only goes so far

      But if you are a BOFH who joins the police you get to do all those BOFH 'unfortunate accidents' legally

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Holmes

    Come on, give your average flatfoot a break as they are mentally taxed enough by who burgled your house.

    What's HTML, Serge ?

  6. Pen-y-gors

    £1.3 million on cybercrime training

    And about £1.30 on actually doing anything about cybercrime.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: £1.3 million on cybercrime training

      Got to pay for the inspectors new laptop somehow you know.

      He googled "wannacried" once on it so it can come out of the cybercrime budget now.

  7. Fading
    Megaphone

    Just equip them...

    With speed guns for the information superhighway...... no training required......

    [may look something like the icon]

  8. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

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    1. LeahroyNake

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  9. HmmmYes

    Bet theyve got a Rainbow car to take to lgbtqsx marches.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    No Coincidence

    Targeting Cybercrime might harm the holy economy....

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-03-01/britain-s-white-collar-cops-are-getting-too-good-at-their-job

  11. Adam 52 Silver badge

    It's a truly awful piece of research, based on vaguely worded questions.

    I know, for example, that pretty much all forces include some basic training in their IPDLP, not just North Wales, although IPDLP has been drastically scaled back to reduce costs. New officers are expected to have a Policing degree, which covers basic cyber crime.

    There are also regular "how to investigate computer crime" modules on other courses; such as the counter-terrorism one or the cyber-bullying one. The generic "searching for stuff" course moves from searching a woodland to searching a car to searching a laptop.

    Also ignores that some forces will outsource their investigations, either to other forces or to private companies.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    IT Angle

    There is more life to police than cyber shit.

    Makes sence, when your police force almost forgets to exist, as the township is so small.

    There is better things to spend your money on.

    What they need is someone they can refer the situation on to, for Britain, some National cyber centre, and if it's local hackers, then later the constabulary can go and arrest them.

    For years now crime has been prioritized, deaths and injury, horrific or public gets the most attention, then big value or big business comes in next. much the same all over the world.

    Cyber is the IT in shit. really it's lowly, costly and time consuming. a bobby on the beat is better policing than having to chase criminals because the Cyber world is not correctly planned, designed or regulated or actualised.

    There is more of life to police than Cyber shit.

    1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

      Re: There is more life to police than cyber shit.

      Cyber is the IT in shit. really it's lowly, costly and time consuming. a bobby on the beat is better policing than having to chase criminals because the Cyber world is not correctly planned, designed or regulated or actualised. .... Data source #58479374

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      There is more of life to police than Cyber shit.

      No BullShit there, Sherlock, although Simply Stating the Bleeding Obvious is no Quantum Leap taken. Quite whether there is anything more important or dangerous to police than Cyber shit is an altogether different proposition though.

      1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

        Re: There is more life to police than cyber shit.

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