back to article Hey UK.gov – cute tweaks to snoop regime. Your EU law reading needs work

The government's attempt to bring the UK's data retention regime in line with European Union laws have been slammed by privacy campaigners, which has accused politicians of trying to avoid making necessary changes. A landmark ruling from the Court of Justice of the European Union deemed indiscriminate data retention illegal, …

  1. Dodgy Geezer Silver badge

    Crime in the UK today...

    ...lowering the threshold of serious crime to being that an adult should be "capable" of being imprisoned for six months....

    That would include leaving your bin out on the wrong collection day...?

    1. phuzz Silver badge
      Headmaster

      Re: Crime in the UK today...

      I tried to have a quick look what kind of things might get you a six month sentence (and of course, if you're sentenced to 6 months, you'll probably only spend 3 actually in prison), but there's not a nice straightforward list.

      I did however find that you can get up to five years for: "Neglecting to provide food for or assaulting servants etc.", or two years for "Endeavouring to conceal a birth".

      It's clear from what I have read though that for most of the UK justice system, a sentence of less than 12 months is not considered a serious crime, so trying to redefine it to 6 months is pretty underhanded.

    2. yossarianuk

      Re: Crime in the UK today...

      So cannabis possession ?

      1. unwarranted triumphalism

        Re: Crime in the UK today...

        That should be punished far more severely.

    3. Voland's right hand Silver badge

      Re: Crime in the UK today...

      That would include leaving your bin out on the wrong collection day...?

      Probably not. Pelting politicians with eggs can qualify though. Some of the statutes that can be invoked are above 6 months.

  2. alain williams Silver badge

    Surveillance what for ?

    The often mentioned: Drug Lords, Terrorists, Paedophiles & Master Criminals ... or people who the government just does not like ? People like me, perhaps, who complain that they are slurping up too much data ...

    1. Zog_but_not_the_first Silver badge
      Trollface

      Re: Surveillance what for ?

      Quick, call the police.....

      Or IT.....???

      Call... the IT police

      Nee naa, nee naa etc.

    2. Teiwaz Silver badge

      Re: Surveillance what for ?

      The often mentioned: Drug Lords, Terrorists, Paedophiles & Master Criminals ...

      Politicians - they are the ones that really need watching...

  3. Cynic_999 Silver badge

    This is why ...

    This is why more and more intelligent law-abiding people are using encryption routinely. Which in turn means that software companies are developing software applications that make effective encryption easier to use by the bad guys. Thus the more the government carries out wholesale data snooping, the less useful information will be obtained from electronic data across the board.

    Once criminals became aware that the police were using fingerprints to catch them, they began routinely wearing gloves when committing a crime.

  4. Teiwaz Silver badge

    Is there no censure?

    For trying to pass an illegal law?

    I dare say a local council would see a fine,

    An erstwhile bank robber would certainly see time for attempting a Bank job.

    Either of above trying the same thing twice would certainly be considered deficient.

    Our politicians have gotten too used to making rules that don't apply to them...

    1. EnviableOne Silver badge

      Technically there is Judicial Review, but there is a significant threshold to order one.

      Also untill Brexit, you can take a case to the ECJ or the ECHR

      outside of that recently its been rely on The House of lords to bring some sense to the argument, untill the commons dust off the Parliment Act again

  5. John Smith 19 Gold badge
    Gimp

    "Office of Communications Data Authorisations"... "would not be a judicial body."

    So a less official name would be

    "The Office of Rubber Stamping WTF the Data Fetishists Want."

    *Making it an "Office of" at the start really helps in making the rest a suitable sentence. A nice touch from the "Home" Civil Service.

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