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Ubuntu's wiki page this morning temporarily played host to a bit of info from religious group Computers4Christians, whose aim is to propagate the use of its operating system to spread the word of the Lord. It is not known who is behind the hijack. While many open-source advocates might appear to be on a mission from God …

  1. Voland's right hand Silver badge

    Time to switch to BSD

    I should spin up a couple of BSDs in the house and proudly raise a flag with the Beastie on it in front of the house. D(a)emon wearing basketball boots. Hmmm... this is appealing...

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      IT'S A DEMON, NOT A DEVIL

      The concept of a daemon on which the BSD beasty is based is on Greek wood spirits that maintain nature in the background, and all that rot. At the time the concept of independently running background services was revolutionary.

      No Christian mythology involved.

      1. Jonathan 27 Bronze badge

        Re: IT'S A DEMON, NOT A DEVIL

        I think "pagan" religions are more threatening to Christian fundamentalists than Christian demons would be.

        1. Teiwaz Silver badge

          Re: IT'S A DEMON, NOT A DEVIL

          I think "pagan" religions are more threatening to Christian fundamentalists than Christian demons would be.

          Eeesch! "pagan" religions are not more threatening, Christian fundamentalists are just more offended by their existence.

          Early christianity was just the low-brow freebie version of the Cult of Mithras.

    2. WolfFan Silver badge

      Re: Time to switch to BSD

      Feh. Wrong gender. http://freebsd-image-gallery.netcode.pl/_daemonette/FreeBSD-tan___by_captainslug.jpg or perhaps http://freebsd-image-gallery.netcode.pl/_daemonette/devilgirl.jpg

      If you're gonna annoy the bible-thumpers, really annoy the bible-thumpers.

      1. druck Silver badge
        Devil

        Re: Time to switch to BSD

        Bah, there is only one true Daemonette!

        http://www.bishopston.com/jamie/misc/bsd-daemonette/

  2. Hans Neeson-Bumpsadese Silver badge

    If the Christian OS ever crashes, does it just restart itself three days later?

    1. wolfetone Silver badge

      It has enough problems with the daemons it has to even consider that.

      1. Marco Fontani
        Joke

        It has enough problems with the daemons it has

        thought they renamed SystemD to SystemG in that distro :/

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      It is cross platform

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Yes but you'll have a hard time getting people to believe it.

    4. Fatman Silver badge
      Joke

      RE: Christian OS

      <quote>If the Christian OS ever crashes, does it just restart itself three days later?</quote>

      Cute

      But, I wonder, in the event Christian OS gets infected with malware, are you required to secure the services of an exorcist???? "In the name of Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Savior; get out of our Holy OS you demonic infestation."

    5. Disgusted of Cheltenham

      Zero days

      No, it's on the third day, i.e two days later.

  3. disgustedoftunbridgewells Silver badge

    That's not very christian, is it?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      RE: "That's not very christian, is it?"

      Almost none of them are, fortunately.

  4. Khaptain Silver badge

    Direct link to Deity

    Why do "believers" need computers ? Doesn't their Deity already provide them with a direct link to all that they need to know ?

    I am always amazed at just how much coercion/publicity etc that the "pushers of belief" require to spread their particular version of dogma.

    From my point of understanding : If a Deity truly existed there would be no need for religion..

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Direct link to Deity

      "From my point of understanding : If a Deity truly existed there would be no need for religion.."

      Your point of understanding is wrong.

      Look not at the religion itself but on the effect it has on those who believe in it. You might think it's horseshit, but it was probably the one thing that stopped the person taking their own life.

      It can be very hard to judge something or other people by something that isn't yourself.

      Source: an episode of depression several years ago and very nearly topped myself. It was only the local priest who would take time and talk to me. Not pushing my belief on anyone else with the above. Just giving another point of view.

      1. Khaptain Silver badge

        Re: Direct link to Deity

        "Look not at the religion itself but on the effect it has on those who believe in it".

        Do you truly believe that religion has only positive effects ?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Direct link to Deity

          "Look not at the religion itself but on the effect it has on those who believe in it".

          Do you truly believe that religion has only positive effects ?

          Or, more tellingly, look at the effect on people who believe in it have on others.

          Yes, there plenty of people who receive acts of charity performed by believers who feel it is their duty to do according to their faith.

          There have also been plenty of others who have been killed or persecuted by believers who feel it their duty to do so according to their faith.

        2. hplasm Silver badge
          FAIL

          Re: Direct link to Deity

          "Look not at the religion itself but on the effect it has on those who believe in it".

          They sometimes explode.

          1. Chemical Bob

            Re: They sometimes explode.

            You say that like it's a bad thing...

      2. Khaptain Silver badge

        Re: Direct link to Deity

        "It was only the local priest who would take time and talk to me"

        Then it was human not divine intervention that saved you, two very completely different things...

        1. Dan Wilkie

          Re: Direct link to Deity

          Arguably it was a human who was driven to their course of action by their belief in a deity that shaped their moral values.

          Disclosure: I'm not a Christian so I have no vested interest. However I also have no issue with people believing what they want to believe and think Militant Atheists are the worst thing since Militant Missionaries - at least they invented a practical sex-move...

          1. Khaptain Silver badge

            Re: Direct link to Deity

            "Arguably it was a human who was driven to their course of action by their belief in a deity that shaped their moral values."

            I could counter-argue by stating that anyone in search of self improvement has made a positive decision to improve oneself. The merit lies in their decision to self improve, not in the means by which it was done.

          2. Teiwaz Silver badge

            Re: Direct link to Deity

            Militant Atheists are the worst thing since Militant Missionaries

            Both are 'evangelists' seeking to convert others to the same world-view as themselves.

            It's these 'there can be only one' world view types are the source of most of humanities issues. Be it One God, One Faith, One Party or one interpretation of scripture.

            They'll bother everyone with leaflets on the streets, today, but given half the chance they'll all gleefully return to herding people into rivers and stacking kindling round non-conformers.

            1. Mark 85 Silver badge

              @Teiwaz -- Re: Direct link to Deity

              Sort of like politics then? Come to think of it... both are very similar.

              1. Teiwaz Silver badge

                Re: @Teiwaz -- Direct link to Deity

                Sort of like politics then? Come to think of it... both are very similar.

                Two definitions to politics -

                1 Activities connected with governing.

                2 Activities connected to positioning of an individual within an organisation.

                Depends on the politics - in the jovial, frontal lobotomy public face of British politics, the combatants appear to prefer getting the mental best of an adversary in the political ring*. They like to pretend it's all in the name of the 1st definition, but it's become all about the 2nd a long time ago.

                * Which has been all posture, spin, and coached handwaving lessons these days.

                In the evangelists eyes, an adversary is someone holding an opposing world view which because it's not their viewpoint it is a threat that must be eradicated if its proponents cannot be converted or won over, they must be purged. While The evangelist may be political motivated or a true believer, the politically motivated one may be reasoned with or bribed, the true believers are the real dangerous ones.

      3. Pollik

        Re: Direct link to Deity

        I am glad it worked for you, but really and truthfully, one does not have to be religious to care about strangers.

        And of course, religion has been responsible for many deaths and traumatic experiences, such as children in their care. Doubly heinous since that is also breach of trust in a privileged position.

        Caveat - I treat religion and personal faith as separate concepts. I have no issue with the latter.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Direct link to Deity

          @Pollik

          Slight correction.

          religion has been responsible for many deaths and traumatic experiences

          should be

          religion has been an excuse for many deaths and traumatic experiences

          In my opinion anyway.

          Wars are fought for three things, Money, Land/Resources or Power, religion is a tool to get people on your side.

          1. Pedigree-Pete
            Coat

            Re: Direct link to Deity

            @AC @Pollick. Amen to that. PP

      4. LDS Silver badge

        " It was only the local priest who would take time"

        Yes, religions are used to attack people when they are weaker... it's much easier to lure them into their creed in such situations. It's exactly the time you need to be more vigilant...

        It's really no different from what con artists do... after all, that's what religions where invented for.

      5. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

        Re: Your point of understanding is wrong

        Why is it wrong? How do you measure right and wrong? The usual tests for truth in religion are "I read it in a book" and "in my heart I know it is true" (often a bit both). I am a scientist. In science, the test of truth is an experiment. A good experiment is well documented so anyone can check the experiment actually tests the conjecture. It should be repeatable so any who doubt the results can do the experiment themselves. There is in fact a well documented experiment to test for the existence of the christian god. I am not convinced that the published results are entirely accurate, so I would like to re-do Nebuchadnezzar's experiment.

        Any volunteers?

        1. John Robson Silver badge

          Re: Your point of understanding is wrong

          Nebuchadnezzar didn't perform an experiment though, so you can't repeat it.

          Interestingly there is a significant amount of scientific theory which we find ourselves unable to test, and yet seem to be defended religiously by people who don't understand them fully...

          I'd suggest that the original premise (From my point of understanding : If a Deity truly existed there would be no need for religion..) is about as valid as "If democracy truly existed there would be no need for voting".

          Religion isn't needed per se - a relationship doesn't *need* the structure of organised religion (I'm assuming that it's organised religion that is being objected to). However it's common for groups to form when they have a common interest/relationship, and it'd common for those groups to have a set of behaviours which reflects their common interests/relationship.

          1. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

            Re: Nebuchadnezzar's experiment

            Nebuchadnezzar's experiment requires a fiery furnace and three people with faith that their god will protect them. You can find the experiment documented here along with Nebuchadnezzar's results. It is possible that the source document is not entirely reliable, that Nebuchadnezzar never conducted the experiment and the results were fabricated. I would prefer not to make such allegations without evidence.

            There are countries where preaching Christianity is a crime that carries the death sentence. A quick web search for "missionaries burned alive" gives a distressing number of results. Clearly Nebuchadnezzar's experiment has already been tried repeatedly (although possibly not by the man himself) and the results contradict the original publication. Perhaps the experimental subjects lacked the required faith. Perhaps they were not given sufficient opportunity to change their mind about the strength of their faith as Nebuchadnezzar did (allegedly).

            I would gladly abandon conducting the experiment if the existing evidence is widely accepted as proof of the non-existence of god. Until then, any volunteers?

          2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

            Re: Your point of understanding is wrong

            "Interestingly there is a significant amount of scientific theory which we find ourselves unable to test,"

            Isn't that a hypothesis rather than a theory?

        2. bitten

          Re: Your point of understanding is wrong

          Scientist read books quoting other books. No need for God to be religious just a "superhuman controlling power"

      6. David Nash Silver badge

        Re: Direct link to Deity

        "Source: an episode of depression several years ago and very nearly topped myself. It was only the local priest who would take time and talk to me."

        I am sorry for your depression and glad you were helped. But I would say it's a very edge case for claiming that supernatural forces exist just in case belief in such can help people in that way.

        If religion didn't exist, you could just as easily have been helped by a rational humanist for example.

        If the guy who had helped you had believed in a different God than you, say he seriously appeared to believe in the old Norse gods, would that have helped and justified such belief?

        To be clear: some of the effects of religion can be helpful on occasions but that does not mean that religion is the only way of achieving such effects; nor does it mean that all effects of religion are beneficial.

        1. Pompous Git Silver badge

          Re: Direct link to Deity

          "I am sorry for your depression and glad you were helped. But I would say it's a very edge case for claiming that supernatural forces exist just in case belief in such can help people in that way.

          If religion didn't exist, you could just as easily have been helped by a rational humanist for example."

          The problem here is that rational humanists don't go on the street to help their fellow human beings. Them who believe in Big G do because they are commanded by Big G to do so.

          My oldest son is a believer who does that kind of thing. The existence/non-existence of God is irrelevant. The belief in God and His commandments is not.

          1. Flocke Kroes Silver badge

            @Pompus Git

            "The problem here is that rational humanists don't go on the street to help their fellow human beings."

            Actually they do. Not all of them, and not all the time, but the same is true of Christians. The big difference is that atheists help other people to make the world a better place for everyone. Christians do what they do to buy comfort for themselves in their afterlife.

            1. Pompous Git Silver badge

              Re: @Pompus Git

              @ Fluck Kores

              What's the name of this atheist equivalent of The Salvation Army? I don't seem to have come across it. What makes you the expert on why my son helps the homeless on the streets? The reason my son gives is that having been helped, he wanted to help others in turn as a kind of payback. This has nothing whatsoever to do with belief in an afterlife.

              1. WolfFan Silver badge

                Re: @Pompus Git

                What's the name of this atheist equivalent of The Salvation Army?

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9decins_Sans_Fronti%C3%A8res

                1. Pompous Git Silver badge

                  Re: @Pompus Git

                  "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9decins_Sans_Fronti%C3%A8res"
                  I'll watch out for them in the pub on Friday night then...

                  1. Francis Boyle Silver badge

                    Re: @Pompus Git

                    You must live in a rough neighbourhood.

                    1. Pompous Git Silver badge

                      Re: @Pompus Git

                      "You must live in a rough neighbourhood."
                      Not particularly. The Sallies fund-raise in Australia's pubs regardless of locale. I never heard of them being attacked; rather the reverse. Pretty much everyone gives them their loose change knowing it's for a very good cause. I'd rather punch out the secular fund-raisers who phone incessantly that you know are only doing it to make a quid for themselves. At least with the Sallies you know your hard-earned is going where it's needed: to poor relief.

      7. Muscleguy Silver badge

        Re: Direct link to Deity

        Whereas my wife's SSRI's helped her depression. I could tell she was better when she could no longer stand the side effects and took the decision to go cold turkey and could not be dissuaded. Not the actions of a depressive.

        My anecdote trumps your anecdote and that is the problem with anecdotes, it is top trumps ALL the way down. Remember the plural of anecdote is not data. Data is a proper study takes only particular and not too many salient points from each anecdote in forms which make those from different arms of the study directly comparable. Put too many features of the anecdotes into your data and the confounders in your stats multiply so fast your significance evaporates. IOW garbage in, garbage out.

        I have designed experimental protocols and analysed a ton of results in very different forms. I'm published in Nature doing one sort of analysis nobody had ever even attempted before.

        I also know that there is good data that Cognitive Behavioural Therapy outperforms SSRI anti-depressants in both efficacy and value for money in mild to moderate depression. Do you know absolutely for sure your priest knows nothing about CBT? or does not use methods incorporated into CBT? IOW you likely got the gold standard, best in class depression therapy there is, which works on a completely secular level too. If I were a priest seeking to help folk I would seek to do a course or buy a book on CBT. I would bet odds that seminaries around the Western world are teaching CBT even if not by name.

        1. Orv Silver badge

          Re: Direct link to Deity

          Religion, if anything, kept me depressed longer. I felt like drugs and therapy were cheating and that if I wasn't getting better it was because life on this sinful earth was supposed to be miserable. Sez so in the scriptures! Maybe it was just my cross to bear, right?

          YMMV. I had identity issues that my religion strongly objected to me investigating, which didn't help.

      8. cream wobbly

        Re: Direct link to Deity

        "it was probably the one thing that stopped the person taking their own life"

        You know, whenever I look for something, I always find it in the last place I looked.

        Religion just happened to be the last thing you turned to before you extracted yourself from your suicidal phase, so it feels like it was the only thing that helped, despite it being just the first thing that helped. I hope you find the will to pursue a sounder path out of depression, because mere religion is almost guaranteed to let you down.

        Back to the topic: the religious seem to think that secularity is theirs for "potential conversion". It seldom is. It's very seldom welcomed. And if someone wants religion, as you did, they'll go find it. A Christian Linux is a terrible idea. Let's say you'd been told by Clippy that "It looks like you're writing a suicide note... you should go talk to a priest" -- I've a sneaking suspicion we wouldn't be having this conversation today.

    2. cray74

      Re: Direct link to Deity

      Why do "believers" need computers ? Doesn't their Deity already provide them with a direct link to all that they need to know ?

      In some cases the two are not mutually exclusive, at least in the mind of the believer. TempleOS is an interesting story, both as a retro computing exercise and of the person behind it.

      (Terry Davis)'s done this work because God told him to. ​According to the TempleOS charter, it is "God's official temple. Just like Solomon's temple, this is a community focal point where offerings are made and God's oracle is consulted." God also told Davis that 640x480, 16-color graphics "is a covenant like circumcision," making it easier for children to make drawings for God.

      The article goes into some depth about how Davis developed schizophrenia in adulthood, thought oil companies and men in black were following him, and eventually decided God was talking to him. God wants an operating system for direct consultations with his believers, and also likes beamers and the Beatles.

    3. Pen-y-gors Silver badge

      Re: Direct link to Deity

      From my point of understanding : If a Deity truly existed there would be no need for religion..

      An interesting thought. If one argues that all religions are based on the need for absolute belief in one's deity or deities, then if said deity actually exists, belief - and thus religion - would not be needed. When you bump into your deity in Tesco or it appears in a pillar of flame when you're about to exceed the speed limit, then no belief is required. You have absolute knowledge. Religion based on belief is then as pointless as a religion based on mud or carpets. It's there.

      (I do like a good bit of theological disputation - El Reg again demonstrates that it is the Numero Uno of commentardism)

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Direct link to Deity

        > if said deity actually exists, belief - and thus religion - would not be needed

        Most leading theologians claim that this argument is a load of dingo's kidneys, but that didn't stop Oolon Colluphid making a small fortune when he used it as the theme of his best-selling book, Well That About Wraps It Up For God.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Have they exorcised the systemd?

  6. Tweetiepooh

    As a Christian I condemn this action entirely. If the disto is good enough then it will be used and doesn't need this sort of approach. Many of the applications used are easily added to other operating systems. This action is more harmful both to the distro, the organisation and the wider Christian community than it helps.

    1. Richard Jones 1

      Sorry @Tweetiepooh

      I am truly sorry, I clicked the wrong box. I thought that your post was balanced in a way that some others are not, My click went in the wrong place. I can blame some nerve damage but clearly need to improve my mouse control, which is not normally this bad - others might not agree but all discussion should be honest and where possible balanced.

      1. Alister Silver badge

        Re: Sorry @Tweetiepooh

        @ Richard Jones 1.

        If you click on upvote it should cancel out your erroneous downvote.

        1. Richard Jones 1

          Re: Sorry @Tweetiepooh

          Thank you, @Alister, when I tried that the first time it did not work.

          Clearly, I need mouse driving lessons!

          Still it worked when I tried a second time after your prompt, thank you.

          1. Solarflare
            Trollface

            Re: Sorry @Tweetiepooh

            "Clearly, I need mouse driving lessons!"

            Have you considered a Mouse4Christians course?

            1. Chemical Bob

              Re: Sorry @Tweetiepooh

              He needs to tutored by a Mouseketeer!

  7. heyrick Silver badge
    WTF?

    Sorry...

    This coming right on top of what happened in Vegas, my "holy WTF?" quotient is already maxed out.

    Try again next week.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Are you sure?

    "Ubuntu's wiki page was temporarily taken over by religious group Computers4Christians this morning"

    Or an anonymous troll who was trying to put the project into a bad spotlight.

    This kind of project is something I prefer to steer clear from because I can't help spot a bit of fanaticism. Doesn't have to be that, but that's my impression. But the thing is: if you look at their website you'll notice that they do seem to respect copyright and everything else. All their work has proper mention of credits, links to other works, licenses are made clear.

    Although they definitely look a bit fanatic to me I don't think they'd stoop this low. Seems a bit out of place and character to me.

    1. sabroni Silver badge
      Happy

      Re: Are you sure?

      I blame the muslims!!!

      1. Mark 85 Silver badge

        Re: Are you sure?

        "I blame the muslims!!!"

        You're Donald Trump and I claim my 5 pounds (or dollars or shekels).

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    LTS ... would that be as in "for ever and ever, world without end, Amen"?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      >> LTS ... would that be as in "for ever and ever, world without end, Amen"?

      No, because Christians have been trying to tell people their pretties / toys will fade for quite a while now. They're just fading a bit faster these days [640K of RAM is enough for everyone, right?]

  10. 45RPM

    Of special interest to the clergy will be the hidden search engine for pictures of choirboys. There’s a real surplice of images there.

    Oh, I’m soo damned for that joke.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Don't make a habit of it

      1. sqlrob

        Quit with the jokes already. Puns make me cross.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Nailed it with that one.

      2. Chemical Bob
        Megaphone

        Re: Don't make a habit of it

        Hey! We'll have nun of that kind of talk around here!

    2. Bernard M. Orwell

      "Kiddle"

      Is that app particularly popular with the Catholic priesthood?

  11. sisk Silver badge

    Speaking as a Christian, I condemn this action. Vandalism is fundamentally incompatible with the teachings of Christ. So are the hate and intolerance that so many non-Christians think are central to the faith because of a very loud vocal minority. This is just one more instance of some idiot who seems to have missed the important parts of Christ's teachings making us all look bad.

    1. nijam

      > This is just one more instance...

      ...to add to the millions already making you look bad?

    2. hplasm Silver badge
      Devil

      "Vandalism is fundamentally incompatible with the teachings of Christ."

      Romanes eunt domus!

    3. Tigra 07 Silver badge
      Thumb Down

      RE: Sisk

      Are you sure? Raping, pillaging and slavery are all in the Bible and allowed by god.

      1. Tigra 07 Silver badge
        Thumb Down

        Re: RE: Sisk

        Ooh, downvoted by defensive christians...Here's a novel idea - if you find it hurtful then actually read your Bible. It's the quickest way to become an atheist.

        Heck, the Bible even tells you how to trick people into becoming your slaves forever...

        1. Pompous Git Silver badge

          Re: RE: Sisk

          "Here's a novel idea - if you find it hurtful then actually read your Bible. It's the quickest way to become an atheist."
          Given that the first explicit writing in favour of atheism was French Catholic priest Jean Meslier's Thoughts and Feelings of Jean Meslier ... Clear and Evident Demonstrations of the Vanity and Falsity of All the Religions of the World written in the early 18th C, maybe it's the slowest rather than the quickest.

        2. sisk Silver badge

          Re: RE: Sisk

          Ooh, downvoted by defensive christians.

          Has it ever occurred to you that you got downvoted for being a jerk?

          I've personally no problem with people who disagree with my religion. I've even debated the subject in a civilized manner with multiple people and have always walked away from such discussions with no hard feelings and a mutually improved understanding of the other person's point of view. But what you did above amounts to nothing more than an unprovoked textual jab at someone simply for having a different worldview than you do. It was stupid and petty.

          You don't share my religion. That's fine. You're entitled to your own beliefs and worldview and I'm not going to cram mine down your throat. I don't think it's so much to ask the same courtesy from you.

          1. Tigra 07 Silver badge

            Re: RE: Sisk

            Bit of an over reaction there isn't it? I didn't say anything that could be construed as cramming non-religion down your throat. I merely pointed out how ridiculous and bigoted some of the book is that you hold dear and you got defensive.

            We should always be free to criticise ideas and maybe, just maybe, if you find it offensive then that says more about the religion than the person pointing at the bad stuff in it.

            1. Pompous Git Silver badge

              Re: RE: Sisk

              "I merely pointed out how ridiculous and bigoted some of the book is that you hold dear and you got defensive."
              Bullshit! You wrote: "Here's a novel idea - if you find it hurtful then actually read your Bible." That was offensive and pretty obviously intentional.

        3. Toni the terrible
          Angel

          Re: RE: Sisk

          The trouble is that the old testament is being referenced. Christains should stick to the New.

  12. David Nash Silver badge

    "While many open-source advocates might appear to be on a mission from God already, these ones

    literally are"

    Literally? From God? so you know He/she/it exists?

    1. GrumpenKraut Silver badge
      Linux

      > ...so you know He/she/it exists?

      Yes, it exists =----------->

  13. Sebastian Brosig

    Gee, that takes me back to 1999, when some joker came up with http://pudge.net/jesux/, suggesting we get rid of abominations such as "chmod 666", demons, and sendmail ("written by a prominent homosexual")

  14. Tigra 07 Silver badge
    Pint

    Good luck finding your porn if you use Bible.cc as a search engine...

    Also Kiddle sounds more like an app made by a paedophile...

    1. WolfFan Silver badge

      Good luck finding your porn if you use Bible.cc as a search engine...

      Oh, I don't know about that. There's some nice stuff in the Bible. Sex, some of it including incest and even bestiality, and assorted fetishes with hair, chains, whips, clothes with lots of colours... something for everyone, actually.

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    No place within these walls......

    Ned : "I've really enjoyed my time here Superintendent. May the Lord bless and keep...."

    Chalmers : "Yeah, take it outside, god boy".

  16. Uncle Slacky Silver badge
    Devil

    Bring back (OK, update) Ubuntu Satanic!

    Still waiting in vain for updated themes and icon sets...

    http://ubuntusatanic.org/

  17. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Any science apps on there?

    On the Origin of Species is out of copyright too, did they include the the ebook?

  18. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Back thee away from me, systemd!

  19. vincent himpe

    nothing to pay

    except your immortal soul . for eternity. mbwuhahahaaaaa.

  20. Eddy Ito Silver badge

    Church closed, source of attack unknown

    They suffered a Denial of Deity Services.

  21. Arthur the cat Silver badge

    penguin carrying a crucifix

    As Steve Bell fans know, this is why they carry crucifixes.

    1. RogerB

      Re: penguin carrying a crucifix

      When I looked it seemed that the penguin was carrying a cross, NOT a crucifix.

      Yes, I am pedantic.

      1. Pompous Git Silver badge

        Re: penguin carrying a crucifix

        "When I looked it seemed that the penguin was carrying a cross, NOT a crucifix."
        I imagine that's because penguins have difficulty holding the hammer to knock the nails in...

  22. popey

    It was a simple mistake

    The wiki home page is the target when you login, so often people think they're on their own page, and go to edit it, not realising they're editing the main landing page on the wiki.

    We frequently have to revert edits on the home page, to undo these little beginner mistakes.

    Would have been more fun if Ubuntu Satanic Edition made the mistake.

    (not an invitation).

  23. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    If you shut it down, after three days does it spontaneously start up again?

  24. Alistair Silver badge

    I hit the comments on this thread - there were 66 comments.

    C'mon ElReg Commetariat, we can do this ... only 599 more to go...

  25. W. Anderson

    An Open Source "Operating System" has no direct technological connection to any religion.

    C4C maybe in breach of FSF License policy by calling their OS "Christian OS", when in fact it is correctly Lubuntu (Ubuntu based) configured for "Christians" terms and uses.

    Even then, if Arian Nation, Skin heads and White Supremists use this OS as "Christians", how does this speak to the image of Christian Religion.

    I am confident that if Muslim "Jihadists" terrorists configured Ubuntu for their perspective and teachings of Islam with an "Jihadist OS", then Christians and US/UK governments would be all over Canonical (owners of Ubuntu) about denouncing use of Ubuntu under such terms.

    1. Chemical Bob

      Re: An Open Source "Operating System" has no direct technological connection to any religion.

      There is actually a Muslim edition of Ubuntu:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabily

  26. John 98

    TRACK RECORDS

    Quite true that religion has had its worser moments, but so has atheism if one looks at Stalin, Pol Pot etc. And since different religions disagree, teaching and inspiring different things, you can't blame one for the fault of t'other. And people may say they don't believe anything, but they still have a working assumption. ... Often that God doesn't exist, but then he might ...

    1. Trilkhai

      Re: TRACK RECORDS

      That's the thing that frustrates me as an agnostic when I see comments taking the stance of "bad things having happened means that any possible 'good' doesn't count." Pretty much everything capable of making a positive impact on humanity will also have been associated with or used to cause harm—and a lot of the time, the people saying "bad nullifies any good" would protest angrily if somebody made parallel statements about their favorite part of computer technology, like computer games or the Internet.

  27. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    In code we trust

    Is the term "religious nutters" a tautology?

  28. thomn8r

    kiddle - sounds like an app for Catholic priests.

  29. Pompous Git Silver badge

    @ WolfFan

    Despite your claim that Médecins Sans Frontières provide the same services as The Salvation Army, it appears this is false. The only other organisations providing poor relief where I live are Anglicaire, St Vinnies and Hobart City Mission all of which appear to be Christian Organisations.

    1. Khaptain Silver badge

      Re: @ WolfFan

      Doesn't the "Red Cross" count, they are neither political not religious ?

      1. Pompous Git Silver badge

        Re: @ WolfFan

        "Doesn't the "Red Cross" count, they are neither political not religious ?"
        They would if they provided the same services as The Salvation Army, but they don't. Sallies provide cheap and free accommodation for the homeless, drug and alcohol counselling for addicts, court and prison services... The Red Cross collect blood and provide transport for the elderly to get to non-urgent medical treatment. Important too, but not the same services. As stated earlier, the Sallies collect donations in the pubs on Friday nights and have an annual door-knock. The Sallies are volunteers for the main part. The Red Cross employ telemarketers and I have grown to loathe telemarketers. Not that I have trouble with telemarketers since installing Call Guardian.

        FWIW we do support Médecins Sans Frontières even though they provide no services in our country and never have. We also support the Menzies Research Foundation and other sectarian charities. But my original question was "What's the name of this atheist equivalent of The Salvation Army?" There isn't one.

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