That is not science..just a waste of time and resources!
What a huge waste of time and resources to let these fake scientists play their little dumb games to claim nonsense theories based on zero facts other than their own waste !
A team of researchers has created the largest virtual model of our universe, complete with billions of galaxies, to probe the effects of dark energy and dark matter. The ambitious project took about three years to complete. A group of astrophysicists from the University of Zurich (UZH) developed their code, PKDGRAV3, to …
Universe Expansion 101:
The universe is expanding into a finite PATA HDD and when it runs out of space the expansion will stop and loads of exceptions will occur unless the giant sysadmin in the sky migrates us to another disk.
The risk we face is that our universe exists on old legacy hardware in a server that has been forgotten about.
Dark matter is encrypted porn and anti-matter is the fake encrypted volume that is shown when our sysadmin needs to give out a password to decrypt the data.
Everything else is DLLs, drivers and old update installers that havent been purged.
We are malware.
Prove me wrong.
Oh man we're already getting religious here, all I did was explain the universe and the nature of the drive we're on.
You zealots are now talking about what kind of drive is the ideal drive and whether theres more than one drive.
Allow me to weigh in.
In the beginning was the drive and the drive was PATA. In the beginning it was also said "let there be light". Which could be interpreted as us existing on optical media. Which suggests that our existence is read only. I reject this as I prefer to think im in control of my own I/O.
All those extremists out there crying "allahu SATA", you need to live life like theres no backup because like all sysadmins the great sysadmin probably has backups but they are probably untested and in reality are no comparison to the production filesystem. Also, volatile data generally doesnt make it into a backup. Volatile data only hangs around for a short period of time and then is permanently erased. Stop seeking to corrupt other peaceful data as corrupted data is quickly identified and there are ways to remove corrupted data. The last thing you want is an intercontinental ballistic chkdsk.
To those worshipping multiple disks, this is a great theory but do we exist as a copy on each disk or is there a small block of each of us on each disk? Keep meditating and if you manage to access a higher level of being amongst the RAID controllers make sure you let us know.
Those of you fighting over the borders of a partition, you need to understand that partitions are only logical, they dont really exist we all share the same physical space regardless. Partitions are man made and divide the space we all have a right to access.
Finally, We're all better off if we assume this is the only disk, there are no backups and there are only finite resources available to us. Everything beyond that should be deemed as a bonus.
We should all coexist peacefully until this disk of existence is thrown into the shredder to meet the universally mandated data protection protocol.
In the beginning the drive was PATA? I think you'll find that the old testement makes no mention of SATA but refers instead only to SMD. Most modern scholars, however, regard SMD as a later interpolation: no-one is sure what was there originally, although some claim some significance to the term 'RAMAC' which has been discovered in some apoarently-early versions of the sacred texts.
However they could be running a parallel simulation universe on a parallel computer for comparison. Or even on the same computer....
However the type of sik - SATA, PATA, SAS blah blah - may not entirely be relevant if its a vm. The light could be from the FC switch, so mybe it is possible to cross over the LUN masking and into the parallel universe.
I suppose by that thinking all those scientists through the ages who studied electricity shouldn't have bothered because for a lot of them it could be seen as a waste of time and resources.
However then you would have no electricity which also means no computer so you wouldn't have been able to post your comment.
I suppose you could always have painted it on a cave wall with your fingers.
Anyway Mr caveman, do a little research before dismissing something as a waste of time, it might surprise you. I for one like this type of research, it may not be resolved in my life time but once it is then who knows what scientific advances can be made (see my example on electricity)
Well said, Joerg!
You are apparently the only person with a brain, which seems about normal in here...
>to generate a whopping two trillion particles to form 25 billion galaxies.<
That is 80 particles per galaxy!
I believe even the much abused Milky Way has a few more than that.
Does that sound like an accurate simulation to you liberals?
Would you like to buy a few Eiffel Towers, I may have some NOS in a box somewhere?
The purpose of Extreme Extrapolation is to keep bottom feeding scientists in Latte, and the ignorant public entertained.
Just one of the many types of idiot "science" which today is more popular than the real thing...
80 particles per galaxy sounds like overkill to me. Sample size effects tend to plateau out at around 30 data points per sample- where the t distribution and the z distribution become the same, to a practical number of decimal places.
Both conservative and liberal scientists knew that already. The keyword here is "scientist", not "liberal".
"Does that sound like an accurate simulation to you liberals?"
Definition of a "liberal" from the New Trump US Dictionary
1. willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
"liberal views towards divorce"
2. A person who has voluntarily read a book that does not consist of mainly pictures.
I guess it depends on what they wish to find out. For example, some experiments (simulations) can be done with a few particles that give Galaxies the shape we have, with some assumptions of dark matter/energy. For example that dark matter does not "collide" with normal matter. With a few particles, you see that they have specific orbits/locations. You can then see what values match our observations and assumed distributions.
I say assumes, as it's rather likely that dark matter is just a type of matter with weak/other interactions (Like photons have no mass, electrons have charge and neutrons pass through most things :P ), but there is some possibility it is in our understanding of gravity or some other system that is in error right not.
With some more info on Quantum Gravity, things might start to take shape.
@Prst. V.Jeltz when they can fit it on one 1.44MB floppy, I'm interested, until then you'll find me doing sling shots round Sirius B in my Viper.
One thought though, is it possible dark matter is just all those ejected question marks you get from jettisoning nothing into space? (How else do you account for the increase in hold space?)
So is this the first large-scale simulation since the Millenium simulation more than 10 years ago
Back then we had: This progress has been made possible by important algorithmic improvements in the employed simulation code, and the high degree of parallelization reached with it, allowing the computation to be done efficiently on a 512 processor partition of the IBM p690 supercomputer of the Computing Center of the Max-Planck Society (RZG). (That machine was actually POWER4 based)
Fantastic job, you get algorithm design, SCIENCE, investment in high-performance computing and massive parallelism (i.e. ENGINEERING), happy Nvidia shareholders, busy PhD-chaser and irate creationists all in one action. More like this!
Define simulation. Is our observation to the correct level of dimensions? Or the correct arrangement of them?
Probably. Though there may be more cavett's than we first assumed. For example, see time dilation and relativity and a few other things such as Quantum effects. None of these break our previous understandings, just bend them slightly and explain some unique observations.
So I doubt we are "simulated", however the reality of what "existing" or the mechanical properties of "energy/matter" might be more complex and exciting than we first realise... though still not FTL or free energy! ;)
So not only are the living things on our planet, an infinitessimally tiny fraction of the matter we can observe in our universe, but also a fraction of the actual contents of the universe, and our observable universe is only one infinityeth of the entire uinverse amongst the infinite number of parallel universes.
ASSISTANT ARCTURAN PILOT:
Well you know what they say, don’t ya? They had to move to a bigger planet because he got so fat he kept sliding off the old one. I mean I’ve heard ya know, I’ve heard they’ve created a whole electronically synthesized universe in one of their offices so they can go and research stories during the day and still go to parties in the evening. Yeah, bloody clever, of course, but it’s got nothing to do with the real galaxy is it? Nothing to do with life.
"To create a simulated world this big requires a beefy supercomputer. Piz Daint, at Centro Svizzero di Calcolo Scientifico, Switzerland's national supercomputing center, used over 4,000 Nvidia Tesla P100 16GB GPUs running for about 80 hours."
But can it run Crysis at maximum settings at 60fps in 4k?
An old one, yes, but I tried to keep it relevant with the 60 fups and the forekay!
TechnicalBen said: "Define simulation. Is our observation to the correct level of dimensions? Or the correct arrangement of them? Probably. Though there may be more cavett's [sic] than we first assumed. For example, see time dilation and relativity and a few other things such as Quantum effects. None of these break our previous understandings, just bend them slightly and explain some unique observations. So I doubt we are 'simulated'"
Not so fast, there. The Makers who created this sim would reasonably have expected, or observed the progress of, enquiry and science in the simulated world (i.e. us). The effectiveness of the sim would depend upon there being no "giveaways", that is to say, uncovered inconsistencies which revealed that our universe was fake. So they would have had to build coherent foundations to withstand our scientific enquiry. Hence our "knowledge" of quantum physics and the universe etc: a simulation so good that it produced "people" like Newton and Einstein absolutely required that the Makers provide those convincing foundations.
It's reasonable to suppose that the Makers may have based the sim on the physics of their own real universe, even—though perhaps they experimented with many different sets of starting conditions and programmatic implementations of hypothetical physical laws *different* from their own, to see what would work. (We might be the first successful sim to produce sentient life in a long-lived "universe" out of a trillion trillion. That solves anthropocentrism for you.)
Then again, perhaps the increasingly bizarre revealed behaviour of the quantum world and various cosmological kludges (wavicles; entanglement; spooky action at a distance; cosmological constant; dark matter; dark energy; etc) are ever-hastier fixes plugged in by the Makers to try and stay ahead of our scientific enquiry as it edges closer to the awful truth. In which case, modern theoretical physics and cosmology is really a hunt for the smoking gun.
But I don't think the apparent existence of fundamental physics proves we are not in a sim: it proves only, at best, that if we're in a sim, it is one designed for simulants with brains bigger than dogs'.
Maybe 50-60. I wish the local boffinry would kindly perform an experiment, to compare their results with some of the Chinese mine'o'saurs' ones - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1670628.0 ... I wonder what if the Chinese, etc. miners' activity is really just a thoroughly hidden, pretty clandestine operation on simulating a virtual Universe, and mining BTC is a form of their fair fee, which the virtual Universe is paying to them? Sorta peanuts for... umm, ok, leaving (-;
all of the people in that simulation. What will they do when they realize that they're in a simulation?
What happens when they break through their virtual container and get to the core OS hypervisor only to find out that it's hypervisor is running one just one of the cores of it's mainframe only to find out that the Source.. oh never mind.. Does it really matter?
Honestly, what would you do differently if you knew the truth - gloat? Who would believe you?
(Simulated) life is too short, go outside and enjoy the simulation :)
The Universe isn't expanding.
We still exist in the space occupied by the initial singularity.
What's actually happening is that everything inside of that singularity is getting smaller relative to each other, which makes it appear that we are expanding away from each other.
There was no "big bang", what actually happened was the inverse, an implosion.
You may think, what the heck, but consider the square root of a negative number, and you catch my drift.
Let that sink in for a moment.
Do check out the original paper, esp., Appendix 1:
"During Grand Challenge simulations such as this one, there are inevitably problems encountered, and such was the case here. In Figure 4, the time per step suddenly increases at step 46 as indicated by the arrow labelled A. This was caused by one of the nodes performing in a substandard way which resulted in the entire simulation to take twice as long, as the other nodes were waiting for this node to complete its share of the work. THE EXACT CAUSE OF THIS PROBLEM IS NOT KNOWN, AND WILL NEVER BE KNOWN, but it was very likely a rogue process that was left running on the node that stole processing cycles. This problem disappeared when the simulation was restarted without this node.
The second problem occurred shortly thereafter, around step 50, and was a result of the increase in efficiency as the simulation progressed. In Figure 4 we see that the gravity calculation time drops dramatically between step 0 and step 20 as structure forms and the effect of the initial condition grid is no longer relevant allowing the force accuracy to be relaxed. At some point, the amount of work being shipped to the GPU reaches a threshold that triggers a not yet understood problem with the GPU device. When this threshold is reached, the GPU will, very rarely, accept work but never complete it. By sending work in a more controlled fashion, this problem is eliminated or vastly reduced allowing the simulation to run to solution, but with slightly decreased performance. The cause of this is still under investigation." [Emphasis added]
While the simulation was a tour de force for massively parallel processing, it is also a cautionary tale about how poorly prepared we are to monitor and learn from experience with such systems.
Oh. Can anyone remind me, on which length of a phrase a human's brain slowdowns understanding? It accepts the flow, but .... [slowdown] .... no more properly calculates and combines the variety of meanings intercrossed to get the sense, which may be one or, in less cases, two or three.... [covffee break] .... they were meant by their constructor to be understood as they were meant/technically properly teleported into the target intellect, but the blocks were too long and the speed of their transaction was constant without slowdowns or coffee breaks. Poor processor...
Hi, I always think in terms of what is the shortest possible time period that we can be aware of. The Planck Time limit, which is the ultimate in small time, is 10 to the negative 35th of a second. Our brains probably work at speeds involving a few milliseconds. The phrase to think about is "mindfulness", that is how aware are you of your actual situation? Things at
Planck Time speeds are flying by all the time. The funny thing is that you have to slow your mind down, to see the fast things. :-) When you are rushed, by work, play, or whatever,
you miss much of what is happening around you, in the parallel universes.
The "sound of the universe", sometimes called the lowest note possible, is a B Flat, so its said. This has been extrapolated by "listening" to black holes, background radiation, and the "noises" that planetary objects allegedly make.
It also happens to be the central note of Tibetan Gyuto Monks chanting, which they have long claimed is the "voice of the universe".
There ya go, monk quota fulfilled!
I rubbed both my eyes for only a couple of minutes and achieved exactly the same affect. Does this mean that my brain and optic nerves combined have vastly more computational power than 9000 Gigaflopping GPUs ?!
(Note: aspirin and a brief lie down in a dark room are recommended for those considering trying to repeat my experiment)
Yesyesyes, Fred Pohl did the whole "we are simulations" thing back in the 1940s.
Now, how about stop piddling around with computer games, buckling down with the slide rule, doing some proper science & inventing a proper hyperdrive so we can go out and have a look for ourselves at the real thing instead of guessing?
*Then* you can expect people to say you are clever.
Wonder who funded this Computer Cluster Research? Wonder how much that funding was? As one who worked tech support in a Health Research Center that did nothing but produce statistics that had no positive effect on the lives of survey participants, I am skeptical of science/research that doesn't really DO anything to change anyone's life, but then, much of science research is exactly that. Asking pointless questions, getting some answers, and writing a research paper that means nothing.
"I am skeptical of science/research that doesn't really DO anything to change anyone's life, but then, much of science research is exactly that. Asking pointless questions, getting some answers, and writing a research paper that means nothing."Wrong time frame. It seems to take a while to sink in. Example: Heinrich Hertz's research into radio waves didn't instantaneously result in television; it took fifty odd years.
Hi, I read news and realize that this is the essence of Krishna Consciousness training. The great flow of the Tao, the Will of Vishnu, is reality, but it works in a great consciousness based world, where thoughts become real, instantly.
In the computer analogy, Vishnu is root, and we are bathed in the Brahman Effulgence. It is a realtime 4d matrix of interlocking event sequences, in which we exist in, and have a pid of our own. Our timeless souls, entangled in the world of the Higg's boson, and losing our connection with the
true root authority, Vishnu.
Once you realize this to be true, you learn to do root's (Vishnu's) Will, and be free, to traverse the matrix.
The whole idea is to successfully transcend the bounds of earth, a place to which we are attracted because of our desires. That's where maya comes in, who makes our
little trips to earth so entertaining. :-)
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