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There's a war brewing in the cloud, and machine learning may well determine the outcome. With infrastructure services trending toward commoditisation, each of the big-three cloud purveyors is racing to augment vanilla IaaS and PaaS with not-so-vanilla machine learning (ML)/artificial intelligence (AI) smarts. Sure, they're way …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "Most corporate data in the cloud is in AWS"

    But that doesn't necessarily make it easily accessible.

    Some of it is sitting in ext4 and NTFS 4 filesystems on EBS volumes. Sharing that means exposing it via something like NFS or Samba, on a server-by-server basis.

    Some of it is sitting in mysql, postgres (etc) databases. You can expose it by creating credentials for remote access, or by setting up replication to a third party.

    Many of those systems are on private VPCs with only private address space. So you have to set up VPNs if you want third parties to access it over the network.

    In other words: the fact that the data exists "in the cloud" doesn't necessarily make it easily accessible by warehousing or ML services. The sort of integration you will have to set up will actually be very similar to allowing remote access to your on-prem systems.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "Most corporate data in the cloud is in AWS"

      None of the issues you have raised are particularly hard to address - fire up an "integration server VM" that resides in your private AWS cloud and provides a standard means of passing the data to the ML service while connecting to databases or file shares.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: "Most corporate data in the cloud is in AWS"

        Sure. The point is: doing this in the *cloud* isn't really any different to doing this *on-prem*. Nor does it matter whose cloud it's in.

        1. Dan 10

          Re: "Most corporate data in the cloud is in AWS"

          Except the cloud means you don't have to worry about large capex. If the boss is ok with the monthly cloud bill, you're good to go.

          Except you don't need to worry about maxing out on resources. Compute, storage, bandwidth. Want more? Give me 15 minutes.

          Except you can try deploying something without persuading the director that it's a good idea to get the sales guys in and go through the RFI/RFP process, only to find that it doesn't suit your environment.

          Except the minute you decide that your current effort is chasing down a dead-end, just delete the resources and stop paying for them.

          Quite a difference, then.

  2. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken Silver badge
  3. boltar Silver badge

    How long before the pendulum swings back again?

    And companies go back to hosting their own servers? "The Cloud" (aka: Someone elses computer you're paying to rent) is no different to renting space on a mainframe back in the day. Then vms/unix minicomputers came along followed by the PC which pretty much killed that market stone dead. But there's nothing a bit of marketing polish can't solve and hey presto , a new name, a new bunch of suckers^H^H^Hcustomers and its back.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The most important factor...

    ...to human beings will be, if this is the road to a hellish global, totalitarian political system, or if it will actually crumble the existing structure of the controlling global central banking cartel and free us from the path they have planned?

    Don't you find it tedious and missing the mark to talk about nothing more than how ML etc may benefit this corporation and that corporation and who's got a leg up in the race? As if its a train nobody can pull the breaks on, if they don't like the looks of the tunnel ahead?

    Sure, its interesting to some degree and to a larger degree if its related to your job.

    But how it impacts your life and that of your children would be a lot more important than whoever is racking up the next inflationary 100 billion stock valuation, no? Money has become its own purpose and it is currently overriding every other concern in all areas.

    I have no fear of being ruled by AI - Machines don't know cruelty. It is humans like Rockefeller empowered by AI you'd have to fear. Greatly. Avid supporter of Eugenics and other hideous Nazi programs.

    It is not a sign of mental health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick and errant society...

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