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Broadcom is shutting down efforts to develop its own server-class 64-bit ARM system-on-chip, multiple sources within the semiconductor industry have told The Register. It appears the secretive project, codenamed Vulcan, did not survive Broadcom's acquisition by Avago and is gradually being wound down. Engineering resources …

  1. JeffyPoooh Silver badge
    Pint

    Server or Smartphone?

    Quad vice Octocore*

    64-bit, yep

    3GHz vice 2 GHz, there's one.

    16nm FINFET vice 14nm FINFET

    * Yes, I know.

    But still, late = dead.

  2. Adrian 4 Silver badge
    Facepalm

    No call for them, Sir

    "ARM-based servers have been hyped in the market for 6-plus years, with little to show for it in terms of real customer adoption," Gina Longoria, a senior analyst at Moor Insights and Strategy, told The Register on Tuesday.

    Maybe if someone that anybody ever heard of actually had some for sale, then customers would buy them ?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Flame

      Re: No call for them, Sir

      AMEN!!!

      The number of times I've seen what looks to be a good board or system, but then find they'll only sell to you if you own a datacentre and you're planning to buy 100 units and are willing to sign an NDA.

      I can walk up to a computer shop, buy the parts for an x86-based server, and build it myself, no questions asked. Getting an ARM-based one requires sacrifice of a few ritual animals and costs an arm and a leg! x86 might cost more to run, but it pays for itself in the lack of general stuff-around.

      Until they solve this problem, I'm sorry, but ARM servers are a lame duck!

      1. Lennart Sorensen

        Re: No call for them, Sir

        At my previous job we had wanted to buy a couple for 3 years now, and nothing ever announced was ever apparently actually able to be bought. Lots of press releases, pictures, etc, but nothing actually for sale.

        Step one in getting a market is clearly to actually bloody well let people buy the damn stuff.

  3. druck Silver badge
    Unhappy

    Raspberry Pi 4

    Damn, I was looking forward to having one of those in the Raspberry Pi 4.

    1. James Hughes 1

      Re: Raspberry Pi 4

      The Pi3 is already a quad core A53, full ARMv8-A.

      1. druck Silver badge

        Re: Raspberry Pi 4

        Yes but it's no Vulcan. I tried it out the Pi3 with an 64 bit version of SLES at the weekend. On a small C++ test program I got a 40% performance increase compared to the 32 bit code. The python version was half the speed though.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Raspberry Pi 4

        It's hardly a server chip though… it'll flash up "low voltage" warnings on the screen if you ask it to build a Linux kernel from source.

        Not what I'd call a strenuous task!

  4. CAPS LOCK Silver badge

    Xeon price rise coming in 3, 2, 1, ....

    The consumers of servers should get together and develop an ARM/ARM-compatible chip. Make it open source and the world WILL beat a path to your door. Of course Intel will try to kill it at birth with Xeon price cuts, but still...

    1. HmmmYes

      Re: Xeon price rise coming in 3, 2, 1, ....

      They might.

      At the mo. server co.s have very specific requirements which dont match fully match with the Intel Xeon roadmap - which is more about extracting money.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Xeon price rise coming in 3, 2, 1, ....

        "very specific requirements which dont match fully match with the Intel Xeon roadmap "

        More details very welcome.

        Meanwhile based on my past experience, mainstream server builders looking at ARM as an alternative would mostly be concerned about losing "best mates with Intel" status if Intel hear about their infidelity.

        Allegedly.

        There's also ARM's new owners. That may have been a great idea for ARM shareholders short term, but it's less obvious that it's such a great idea for the future of ARM (and ARM licensees) in new-to-ARM markets.

        1. HmmmYes

          Re: Xeon price rise coming in 3, 2, 1, ....

          Well ..... Intel wants every bit of your cash and they dont care too much about how much current/power their customers use - bar setting alight the motherboard.

          Big server farms want lots of powerful server using as little as power as possible.

          i.e. Intel trade offs between CPU performance and grunt are different to Serverfarm's.

          A server farm could be persuaded to ditch the x86 legacy. Intels business depends on x86 legacy; without that thats its just another silicon fab.

          Arms dont make chips. Not sure about Softbank; ARM customer toes and all that.

    2. Andre 3

      Re: Xeon price rise coming in 3, 2, 1, ....

      So something like Amber doesnt count? http://opencores.org/project,amber

    3. Wade Burchette Silver badge

      Re: Xeon price rise coming in 3, 2, 1, ....

      AMD Zen is coming out soon. They plan on having a 32 core/64 thread version for servers. Intel is going to be forced to lower prices because of that.

  5. Dwarf Silver badge

    Illogical

    There you go, someone had to get that in given the Star Trek references.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Live Long and... awww crap!!!

    In it for the lulz.

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