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A new "AI" application could save pornography sites hours of grunt work. The neural network "Miles Deep", released under the GPL, claims to classify each second of a porn clip of a sexual act with 95 per cent accuracy. Miles Deep could also be used to make clips "safe" for viewing. "It can remove all the scenes not containing …

  1. Johnny Canuck

    Could this also be used for "described video" so blind people can watch porn too?

    1. Hoe

      You just need to find the brail porn sites, that's why I always buy The Sun paper in brail, page 3 is awesome! ;)

      1. Tom 7 Silver badge

        Re the sun

        page 3 may be fund but the coprophillia on the other pages is not to my liking.

  2. israel_hands

    Lack of Research

    That's a very short list of sex acts. Have they actually seen any porn that was produced after the 19th century or did they limit their "training data" to a series of French daguerreotypes sourced from a specialist collector?

    Where's the wanking, fingering, anal, fisting, pissing, frotting, bondage, dp, ball-sucking, spanking, footjobs, dildo's, butterscotching and the now-legendary reverse Dutch steamboat?

    This is like the AOL list of sexual acts. Still it could be quite funny to let it loose on YouTube. Can't wait till a video of Nigella Lawson preparing a Turkey roast gets flagged as a fisting vid.

    1. Alister Silver badge

      Re: Lack of Research

      That's a very short list of sex acts.

      It's the Wholesome American list of approved sexual perversion.

      Most of the list you mention are highly illegal in a number of US States.

      1. fruitoftheloon
        Happy

        @Alister: Re: Lack of Research

        Alister,

        which ones?

        More to the point how do you know this?

        ...somewhat tongue-in-cheek question!

      2. Antron Argaiv Silver badge
        Paris Hilton

        Re: Lack of Research

        Illegal, perhaps.

        Doesn't mean they don't happen :-)

        // in spite of what the politicians think

        // love finds a way

    2. Fizzle
      Paris Hilton

      Re: Nigella

      It's high time El Reg replaced the Paris icon with Nigella (or Mary Berry at a pinch).

      Fed up with Paris now...

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Lack of Research

      I always fail to be impressed by people trying to brag about their amazing knowledge - that middle paragraph would have been funny if it had been shorter and less explicit because the name of that last one is either brilliantly made up or genuinely silly.

      It's not prudery, I just don't want to be put off my lunch.

      1. Hero Protagonist

        Re: Lack of Research

        "I always fail to be impressed by people trying to brag about their amazing knowledge - that middle paragraph would have been funny if it had been shorter and less explicit because the name of that last one is either brilliantly made up or genuinely silly."

        Personally, I was more put off by the inappropriate apostrophe in "dildo's".

        1. israel_hands

          Re: Lack of Research

          Personally, I was more put off by the inappropriate apostrophe in "dildo's".

          You're entirely correct. I hadn't spotted that. Egg (and thankfully nothing else) on my face now.

          1. Darryl
            Terminator

            Re: Lack of Research

            What we need is a grammar Nazi AI that can parse forums, blogs, Facebook, etc. and correct these jarring errors. THAT would be useful to society.

            1. moiety

              Re: Lack of Research

              "Beginners are advised to wear goggles". I had to look up Reverse Dutch Steamboat too and also ended up on Stockolm Slip'N'Slide.

              1. VinceH Silver badge
                Paris Hilton

                Re: Lack of Research

                Ditto - but I'm slightly annoyed that the Urban Dictionary page for (Reverse) Dutch Steamboat mentions the Sorcerer's Apprentice, but with no link to a page to reveal what that is.

                I'm guessing it might involve brooms (or broom handles).

                Or buckets.

                Or both.

                I wonder if Paris knows?

                1. wayne 8

                  Re: Lack of Research

                  From Urban Dictionary for "Sorcerer's Apprentice":

                  "mopping you loved ones but crack with your hair."

                2. moiety

                  Re: Lack of Research

                  I'm slightly annoyed that the Urban Dictionary page for (Reverse) Dutch Steamboat mentions the Sorcerer's Apprentice, but with no link to a page to reveal what that is.

                  Just copy and paste into the search bar. To save you the effort, it's cleaning/stimulating your partner's arse-crack with your own hair. Don't really get the point, myself; but as it's something I never intend to get closer to than reading about, that's fine.

                  1. VinceH Silver badge
                    Facepalm

                    Re: Lack of Research

                    "Just copy and paste into the search bar. To save you the effort, it's" ...

                    D'oh.

                    Because the term was mentioned on the UD page for Dutch Steamboat, but without a link, I simply assumed that meant it wasn't defined on the site - so I didn't even consider searching.

      2. Teiwaz Silver badge

        Re: Lack of Research

        It's not prudery, I just don't want to be put off my lunch.

        - I only had the vaguest idea of most of them, especially the last.

        Although I did experience a Homer Simpson moment at 'Butterscotching'

        It's funnier because it's longer and more explicit, look up Monty Python, particularly Cheese Emporium, Medical love song and the Travel Agent Sketch.

      3. myhandler

        Re: Lack of Research

        Err.. too much hard work to use a - what is it they call it.. - a search engine?

        Now I know two new definitions both of which had me laughing mightily.

      4. David Cox

        Re: Lack of Research

        Had to look up the Reverse Dutch Steamboat on Urban Dictionary, also the Stockholm Slip'n'Slide description is hilarious. Luckily I'm working the helpdesk from home today, actually laughed out loud! I do think someone is making these up though!! :-D

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Lack of Research

          Not via the work's VPN I hope? All your browsing just went through your work's system!!

      5. P. Lee Silver badge
        Boffin

        Re: Lack of Research

        > last one is either brilliantly made up or genuinely silly.

        Argh! It turns out google definitely isn't your friend.

        Porn is like Windows 10 - destroys what you really needed and replaces it with bells and whistles you didn't want.

        1. Doctor_Wibble
          Gimp

          Re: Lack of Research

          > bells and whistles you didn't want.

          Philistine!

          Though I do see your point as those are normally chargeable extras. Apparently, so I've heard, someone told me they overheard that once.

      6. wayne 8

        Re: Reverse Dutch Steamboat

        Silly for centrists.

        Designed for the nuts of either wing.

        The Urban Dictionary.

        During anal sex:

        Reverse Dutch Steamboat:

        shouts left-wing propaganda despite wingnut values

        http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dutch%20Steamboat

    4. tony72

      Re: Lack of Research

      It's a creditable effort to recognise even that short list of acts to the claimed degree of accuracy, though, give them some credit. But if there's one thing the internet's not short of, it's source material to test this application on, so I imagine it will improve fast if it's being actively developed.

      1. TitterYeNot
        Coat

        Re: Lack of Research

        "But if there's one thing the internet's not short of, it's source material to test this application on, so I imagine it will improve fast if it's being actively developed."

        AI_Auto>wget www.pronhub.com

        .....checking

        .....Site categorized

        AI_Auto>wget www.weirdsex.com

        .....checking

        .....Site categorized

        AI_Auto>wget www.goatse.com

        .....huh?

        .....wtf?

        >KERNEL PANIC!

        >SHUTDOWN!

        >SHUTDOWN NOW!!!!!!

        ....initiating syswipe

        Hit any key to continue....

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Lack of Research

          That's goatse.cx

      2. Captain DaFt

        Re: Lack of Research

        "I imagine it will improve fast if it's being actively developed."

        Or exposing an AI to this could result in...

        "Eww! Humans are disgusting! Release the terminators!"

    5. Simon Harris Silver badge

      Re: Lack of Research

      "Can't wait till a video of Nigella Lawson preparing a Turkey roast gets flagged as a fisting vid."

      When it sees the turkey baster will it classify it as artificial insemination? The AI needs AI on its list.

    6. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

      Re: Lack of Research

      Obviously, further research is needed.

      Where do I sign up?

    7. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Lack of Research

      > Where's the wanking, fingering, anal, fisting, pissing, frotting, bondage, dp, ball-sucking, spanking, footjobs, dildo's, butterscotching and the now-legendary reverse Dutch steamboat?

      It's GPLed. Where is your pull request?

      1. Santa from Exeter
        Happy

        Re: Lack of Research

        @ AC "Where is your pull request"

        Is this one categorized under 3. other or israel_hands' "wanking"?

    8. 2+2=5 Silver badge
      Joke

      Re: Lack of Research

      > This is like the AOL list of sexual acts

      Surely the AOL list of sexual acts is all of those but with an extra person, i.e.

      +1

    9. Ian 55

      Re: Lack of Research

      It's a list of things the authors like doing or watching.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    DC Pig Video?

    I suppose the benchmark video in 2016 for taste and decency would be the hypothetical David Cameron Pig Vid. I mean if its OK for a Prime Minister, plebs surely could watch/do this too?

  4. Teiwaz Silver badge

    Animated productions

    Wonder how it would fare on the likes of ecchi.iwara (CNSFW)

    1. Conrad Longmore

      CFCM

      I think CFCM is going to be one of the government-approved types of pornography going forwards.

      1. Teiwaz Silver badge

        Re: CFCM?

        French council of the Muslim Faith

        Centre for Finance, Credit and Macroeconomics, and some Canadian church org

        With the tories, the only approval is them watching everything you, just in case you might do something (I'm not convinced labour have killed new labours plans in that direction either).

        1. Tom 38 Silver badge

          Re: CFCM?

          First find the definition for CFNM, that should make CFCM understandable.

        2. DropBear Silver badge
          Trollface

          Re: CFCM?

          Centre for Finance, Credit and Macroeconomics, and some Canadian church org

          Oh, in this case "C" is for "clothed" I presume. I'll let you guess the rest...

          1. Midnight

            Re: CFCM?

            "Clothed Finance, Credit and Macroeconomics"?

            YMINMKBYKIOK.

    2. Sampler

      Re: Animated productions

      the fuck did I just watch?

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  5. David Roberts Silver badge

    Probably needs sub-categories

    Possibly based on location, gender, ethnicity and voting preference.

    Don't want those down home white Christian (other religious fundamentalists are available) types watcing single sex and/or mixed race action.

    By mistske, at least.

    Master level is tests such as "only if it is a really good looking horse" and the like.

    At least you can now blame the application if you request only chaste kissing but forget to specify where.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Probably needs sub-categories

      No need for the deep South, they only require a category that accepts action in which the participants appear to be related.

      1. Antron Argaiv Silver badge
        Thumb Up

        Re: Probably needs sub-categories

        You've left out an entire category involving barnyard animals

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    No use to me

    I'm just interested in the stories. Really.

    1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge
      Devil

      Re: No use to me

      I love that one where the plumber rings the doorbell, then actually fixes the fucking boiler and goes away again...

      1. Marcelo Rodrigues
        Trollface

        Re: No use to me

        "I love that one where the plumber rings the doorbell, then actually fixes the fucking boiler and goes away again..."

        Who were doing it with the poor boiler?

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    That awkward hi processor load, moment of silence.

    As it discovers Artificial Insemination (the other AI) and tries to identify the use of very long plastic gloves in conjunction with cows.

  8. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

    This should be the starting point for developing AI porn. By which I mean porn for AIs. Just in case the singularity will happen and turn ugly - this will be the only way to distract the machines long enough to pull the plug on them.

    1. JudeKay (Written by Reg staff)

      And by pull the plug, you mean...

      1. Mephistro Silver badge
        Devil

        "And by pull the plug, you mean..."

        PLOP!

  9. Pen-y-gors Silver badge

    Helping hand?

    I would have thought that it was the porn consumers rather than the porn producrs that need a helping hand.

  10. Seajay#

    "AI" (as we are now obliged to call any piece of code with a conditional expression)

    We're obliged to call it AI if it contains a conditional expression that wasn't put there by a human. So it's reasonable to call this AI because it's a trained neural net.

    It's an odd definition I'l grant you because if someone hand coded all the decision weights then perhaps we wouldn't call it AI even if it was functionally identical. That's a bit too metaphysical though really because it's not possible in practise.

    1. ryanjay

      Re: "AI" (as we are now obliged to call any piece of code with a conditional expression)

      Very interesting idea theoretically. Practically this network contains 6.9 million parameters. Good luck hand tuning.

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Get back to me when it can generate it's own believable porn (4k of course). :)

  12. Dr Who

    And in other news

    Tech industry struggles to understand why it has increasing problems attracting women to the industry.

    1. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge
      Paris Hilton

      Re: And in other news

      I dunno the pr0nz are always well-stocked on beautiful ladies?

    2. ryanjay

      Re: And in other news

      As the creator of this project and a self proclaimed feminist, I take this comment seriously. Getting more women involved in the sciences and computer science in general has always been an important goal to me. I'd hate to think this project would hinder that effort, and perhaps it does.

      People tend to write solutions for problems they know, and that's why many apps cater to wealthy urban white men. That's why it's so important to have many diverse coders. I still want to share what is meaningful to me.

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Great new stuff to search for on the bosses machine

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    NVIDIA GPU

    Nggg Vidya General Porn Unit?

    Raahhh.... lovely!

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Miles Deep could also be used to make clips "safe" for viewing.

    "It can remove all the scenes not containing sexual contact [....]

    Anyone care to define "safe for viewing" for me, please? :-)

    1. yet_another_wumpus

      "Anyone care to define "safe for viewing" for me, please? :-)"

      Anything that shows something your boss won't admit he approves (at work).

      (Not at work) anything saved in flash, avi (that can download drivers "for" you), or similar. Or just boot into Linux and don't worry.

  16. Pete 2

    One way to increase quality

    This is probably the most rigorously tested software ever to be released under the GPL

  17. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The problem I have is how the page jumps around...

    The problem I have is how the page jumps around while loading. I'm just in the process of clicking on ASIAN, when the page suddenly jumps and the cursor lands on GAY. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it can be a bit traumatizing.

  18. JeffyPoooh Silver badge
    Pint

    Suggestion for all AI projects using neural nets...

    Once they've got the neural net fully trained, they should run it through the Google Dream algorithm to visualize exactly what it's focusing on in the videos.

    It might be very informative, if not addictive.

    It might become a new genre itself.

  19. jelabarre59 Silver badge

    Handy

    I like the way the article headline refers to giving a helping HAND....

  20. Brian Miller
    FAIL

    NSFW clickbait

    This is a load of bollocks. Seriously, all they've done is grab Berkeley Caffe and pointed it at porn videos. Unfortunately, there really isn't anything to see here.

    1. ryanjay

      Re: NSFW clickbait

      Thanks for the constructive criticism. The main contribution of my work is a framework for classifying video with any Caffe model quickly, using batching and threading in C++. This isn't in Caffe's examples and is the only open-source framework I know of that accomplishes this task.

      Also I didn't simply point Caffe at porn. It took a long time to generate quality data, and it wasn't exciting it was tedious. I've compared many different models including some using Tensorflow and modified the learning methods and parameters with a lot of compute time for each run.

  21. Paul Hovnanian Silver badge

    When will this be available?

    I need to organize my hard drive.

  22. Tikimon Silver badge
    Devil

    Possible good use here?

    Thanks to the poster about organizing the hard drive for sparking this thought. I wonder if this could be used to screen your collection to make sure there's nothing in there you didn't expect.

    A guy I know downloads porn clips, and only has a thumbnail and brief description to base download/no-download on. Sometimes he's been startled to find something else in the clip he wasn't expecting and did not want to see, possess, or be arrested for. Could be a nice CYA to ferret out the dodgy bits. Not unheard of for laptops to be copied and scanned by cops and border screeners.

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