back to article Yahoo! halts! email! forwarding! to! outside! email! addresses!

Yahoo! has “temporarily disabled” the ability to forward email from its messaging services. As the Plunging Palace's support page helpfully explains, “Automatic forwarding sends a copy of incoming messages from one account to another.” That page goes on to say the feature is “under development.” “While we work to improve it …

  1. batfastad

    WTF

    See title.

    Given that I every day I get at least one spam from a contact's Yahoo! e-mail address, this is probably a good thing. It's "last one out the door turn out the lights" time at Yahoo! me thinks.

    1. ElReg!comments!Pierre Silver badge

      Re: WTF

      Most of the time the adress would be spoofed, shirley?

      In any case Yahoo still allows IMAP, more easily than Google does, even, so I fail to see what they would gain from "locking in" people by disabling their redirection service. More likely a technical problem.

  2. Will Godfrey Silver badge
    Happy

    On the other hand...

    Maybe it's their way of getting rid of the whole pesky email problem. Just get everyone to leave.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: On the other hand...

      As i understand it, they are essentially stopping people from doing just that!!!

  3. Your alien overlord - fear me

    Currently all emails are forwarded to the NSA. Some people want their emails forwarded to their own alernative email addresses. This is the problem which Yahoo! are trying to fix.

    And wasn't there a story about BT users having this problem. Seems it wasn't BT's fault after all !!!!

  4. The Original Steve

    Only push, not pull?

    I know when I've moved my own as well as others, most modern mail platforms will "pull" content in via IMAP or POP3 from the old platform to the new shiny.

    At least Outlook.com and GMail allow this. I'm assuming Yahoo! haven't disabled POP3 access - which means that people can still move off their ghastly email system to something marginally better.

    Fuckers regardless though.

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge

      Re: Only push, not pull?

      I forward them out to another provider which does IMAP IDLE (because Yahoo doesn't) so I can actually get timely notifications without hammering my mobile's battery.

      It's still working for now and I've been using this setup for years. If it suddenly stops I really should pull my finger out and sort out a new address.

    2. James Wilson

      Re: Only push, not pull?

      Hmm. Recently when I've logged in to Yahoo! mail it's suggested turning off access via "less secure methods" than it's own apps, I wonder if said method is POP3 access. I'll check later.

    3. ElReg!comments!Pierre Silver badge

      Re: Only push, not pull?

      > At least Outlook.com and GMail allow [POP3 and IMAP].

      By default Google will freeze your account if you try to connect through POP or IMAP from an "unusual location" (that may be such suspiciously alien places as "the coffee shop across the street"). Because, you know, a "cloud"-based email adress is to be used only from your place of residence. Totally makes sense. I stopped using their services, I still have 3 yahoo-powered addies (2 for junk), all of which I access exclusively through IMAP, from around the world and without a hitch.

  5. The Vociferous Time Waster

    Hacked

    Wait, if everyone's credentials are already on pastebin then perhaps they want to stop hackers bccing all mail to nefarious destinations while they set to work resetting passwords on more valuable accounts.

    1. The Vociferous Time Waster

      Re: Hacked

      I mean if you start getting a lot of password reset emails you might think to change your email password but you might not think to see if mail is also being forwarded to scumbag@email.ru

  6. James 51 Silver badge

    Tried to sync a yahoo calendar with hub+ yesterday, maybe this is why it wasn't working. Not like there could be any (accidental) collateral damage from tinkering with the settings.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    good reason

    When my wife stupidly clicked on a link around when btinternet where making modiifcations to their email system she compromised her account and logged on to find all her emails gone plus her contact list and of course phishing emails sent to all her contacts.

    Although we later deleted the account I first checked through ever option in the settings and found that a forward had been set up that would have forwarded a copy of every incoming email somewhere else.

    So clearly the 'hackers' were relying on the fact the majority of users would simply regain control of their account, change the password and think themselves safe.

    I assume Yahoo are putting some new safe guards in such that for instance the account holder is informed of any new forwarding configuration.

    1. DropBear Silver badge

      Re: good reason

      To be honest, I've always been rather skeptical of the efficiency of a warning system that tells you that you've probably lost control of your mailbox, using said mailbox...

      1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

        Re: good reason

        "a warning system that tells you that you've probably lost control of your mailbox, using said mailbox..."

        I keep getting messages like that about Hotmail/Outlook all the time. And sometimes about Gmail as well.

    2. Dan 55 Silver badge

      Re: good reason

      If it were about safeguarding people from hackers, they would stop forwarding altogether which it appears they're not going to do. They're just stopping people setting up forwarding now, i.e. the people who want to leave.

    3. Anonymous South African Coward Silver badge

      Re: good reason

      Hope you forwarded the ne'er-do-wells a ton of some juicy goatse (or similar) pics...

  8. KiwiGraham

    At least it stops the hackers setting invisible forwarders

    Having had to clean up some hacked Yahoo accounts, I have previously found that there is a way of creating an email forwarder for the Yahoo account that is often not visible in the account settings. Maybe that's one of the bugs they're trying to un-develop.

    1. ACZ
      FAIL

      Re: At least it stops the hackers setting invisible forwarders

      Ahhh... that brings me to my my slightly angry and possibly OTT wishlist (similar thing with a family member's hacked Yahoo account).

      I would love to see... mandatory 2FA at login, a single use PIN code required from your mobile before a forward address is set up, a one-off re-validation of all existing email forwarding, a BIG CLEAR MESSAGE every time you login if any email forwards are set up on your account, and an easily accessible "delete all email forwarding" button.

      Obviously, might get in the way of pushing Yahoo! news at users, but surely that's got to be more important than click-through advertising income. What? It isn't?... ;)

      1. Prst. V.Jeltz Silver badge

        Re: At least it stops the hackers setting invisible forwarders

        why would yahoo even provide this feature?

        it would mean you wouldnt see any adverts

      2. PhilBuk

        Re: At least it stops the hackers setting invisible forwarders

        No email provider is getting my mobile number.

  9. paulf Silver badge
    Pirate

    A sudden rush of development? Smells fishy...

    About three years ago I tried to get the "Reply to" option to work on my Y! mail account (not my main account). Y! resolutely refused to include the reply to email address in any email sent out through it with the header entry set as "Reply-To: ;" (generating a bouncy email to ";" for anyone who did click reply).

    This should have been pretty simple to fix but three support tickets in as many months yielded nothing and I understand it remains broken. I gave up and moved everything on that account to a paid for IMAP provider which has been faultless over the last 2.5 years.

    The only explanation for this sudden rash of development/debug work at Yahoo can only be nefarious. I'd go with the lock in theory if I thought Yahoo were clever enough to think it up...

  10. Fihart

    Go on, blame the user.

    Been with Yahoo for over 15 yrs, most of them happy enough. Recently though, more spam, outages, slowdowns, errors when attaching files -- wanting mobile phone number "in case you get locked out" (i.e. so they can flog it to phone marketeers).

    Yahoo finally admit to a security meltdown kept secret for years and start nagging ME about security !

    Change password, don't use my iPhone, apps or sites like mail.com to forward mails.

    All guaranteed to drive users into the arms Gmail.

  11. CAPS LOCK Silver badge

    Horrible article image...

    ... is horrible.

  12. chivo243 Silver badge
    Windows

    Yahoo mail has only one use

    To receive Yahoo Group mail... many years ago I joined a local buy and sell group(craigslist kind of thing)

    Nothing sensitive there... so until Yahoo falls on their face, I just use it to get messages from the buy sell board... I'll just change my password frequently.

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Totally disgusting article image

    Whoever thinks that article image is witty, relevant or appropriate really needs to consider their state of mind.

    Really expect better from el reg.

  14. Missing Semicolon
    FAIL

    Verizon should just walk away.

    As the Yahoo email business is now dead.

    Why? Well, the bad guys have millions of account logins, many of which will be for "zombie" accounts that the original owners have forgotten about. So they will be used to send spam and phishing mails, which at the moment will evade spam filters as they are from a "legitimate" mail server. When everyone gets fed up, and either blacklists yahoo.com mail, or up-scores the spamminess in their spam filters, the Yahoo users will find that their mail is never delivered. Sorting this out would take years.

  15. adam payne Silver badge

    What's that you say? If a company leaked like a sieve and secretly helped spooks, users might be inclined to take their business elsewhere? But for the sake of convenience those folks abandoning the sinking ship might set up their old Yahoo! account so it forwards mail to their new inboxes?

    Or could it be that hackers are forwarding emails on to themselves and Yahoo! have only just thought that this could be an issue.

  16. arctic_haze Silver badge

    I'm not surpised

    I'm not surprised with this new change seeing for years everything Yahoo! go to the gutter. I had a mail account with them. It most probably had been forwarding mail to my main email account elsewhere. But seeing the general level of Y! service, I stopped using it years ago and hopefully it's been long blocked (at least I do not get any spam from them).

    I am however surprised that there are people who still use this crap.

  17. anthonyhegedus Silver badge

    I have a customer who uses yahoo and I've point blank refused to help him with any email related problems, on the basis that he doesn't have an email service.

    What exactly is yahoo for?

    1. Just Enough

      Yeah, not as if he's paying you to help him, or anything.

  18. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    If Yahoo! survives this as Company, it really says how stupid we all are.

    Yahoo! deserve to rot.

    If Yahoo! can manipulate its users to this extent and they stick with them, the rest of us are all doomed because the Yahoo! fcukup will become the standard model for Facebook and others, going forward, i.e. not to give a shit regards NSA slurps, data leaks.

    Really sorry we slurped all your data {by mistake}. Don't worry, it WILL BE used for whatever we fcuking well we please, because well, you're too damn lazy to care about your Privacy to do anything about it, i.e. to move your data elsewhere, secure your data (with a decent password) / leave.

    What has hardly been discussed is why the NSA thought imposing this data slurp on Yahoo! was somehow "morally fine" and on getting the enforcement passed, implemented said Policy of scanning all of Yahoo! email for stuff, without thinking out the consequences of their actions, especially now its been leaked.

    Its probably worth keeping an eye on the movements/dismissals of all high level security related Personnel at these companies, if you value Privacy. Someone walks, check their twitter / Linkedin.

    Given the timeframe of these hacks, who's to know if Yahoo's previous head of Security did such a good job of leaking data of 500m users without consequence (as it seems), he'd be a rather good employee of Facebook, in the circumstances, to further their aims.

  19. Ian Emery Silver badge

    I for one, welcome the news

    It means no more crap forwarded from the yahoo account I lost access* to 10 years ago, but which still forwards a dozen pieces of tat to my favourite gmail account every day.

    It was hacked the other year, and yahoo reset the password, but sent it to my back-up account, which I had also just lost (at VERY short notice - ie the bastards cut me off the day after I gave a months notice).

  20. inmypjs Silver badge

    Face it

    A Yahoo email address you use for anything serious was a huge mistake.

    You are going to have to pay for that mistake sooner or later - may as well get on with it.

  21. lafnlab
    Thumb Down

    Alternative punctuation

    Considering the company's dire straits, perhaps El Reg should refer to Yahoo! as Yahoo¡

  22. Lost in Cyberspace

    IMAP / POP also under attack

    Several clients have informed me that access via 'Less secure apps' has suddenly been disabled too.

    Yahoo is giving me so many headaches from novice users right now.

  23. Lost in Cyberspace
    Facepalm

    IMAP / POP also under attack

    Several clients have informed me that access via 'Less secure apps' has suddenly been disabled too.

    Yahoo is giving me so many headaches from novice users right now.

  24. David Pearce

    Very soon Gmail will be the only option for the home user, as Microsoft seem to be aimed at corporates these days.

    Then Google can start to charge or do their favourite trick of abandoning the product.

    My local ISPs don't have one mail service between them these days

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Then Google can start to charge or do their favourite trick of abandoning the product.

      There is no way Gmail will be abandoned. It's a source of much useful intelligence to select groups.

  25. Zippy's Sausage Factory

    They don't know what they're doing

    That's the impression I get.

    Maybe they did, once.

    But not any more.

    RIP, Yahoo.

    You were quite good once.

    Not as good as Altavista or Google... Or Lycos... Or Webcrawler... But not too bad.

  26. Baldy50

    Name change

    From Yahoo to Yeeeehaaa!

    Vivaldi.net for me, Norwegian-based, good privacy laws, no spam and no traffic through a US server unless you send an e-mail there.

    1. Captain DaFt

      Re: Name change

      Why change the name? It fits!

      Quote:"Yahoos are legendary beings in the novel Gulliver's Travels (1726) by Jonathan Swift.

      Swift describes them as being filthy and with unpleasant habits, resembling human beings far too closely for the liking of protagonist"

      (From Wikipedia)

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