Time to pick up some cheap VW shares in the next few days?
US watchdogs have found three pieces of so-called emissions cheatware in Volkswagen's three-liter diesel engines, according to German Sunday tabloid Bild am Sonntag. The dodgy code, we're told, lifts limits on engine output after 22 minutes of operation – that's rather convenient because air pollution tests by regulators last …
Monday 8th August 2016 20:44 GMT Frank N. Stein
Monday 8th August 2016 21:10 GMT Anonymous Coward
I'm not expert on the US emissions test regime (it's different in different states I believe?)
In the UK, it's a requirement that the engine be at 'operating temperature' so any emissions test cheat software that relied on a timer would be of little use as the engine should have been running long enough to take it from cold to thermostat open or an oil temperature of (I think) 80 degrees C.
That of course is a variable amount of time.
I would think it's unlikely that the US (where BAR90 was introduced and mandated the engine oil be tested) has lower requirements.
Monday 8th August 2016 22:21 GMT Oengus
Tip of the iceberg
I am sure that it was predicted that there would be more of this discovered. As the greenies get more control and continue to tighten emission standards the manufacturers will need to find new ways to "meet" them. The only way to do this and give the customers the performance they demand is to "use" the system.
Tuesday 9th August 2016 02:35 GMT Anonymous Coward
Give drivers a Blunt Machete experience to remember.
'give Customer's the performance they demand'
In the UK, we now a proliferation of new 24/7 Hadecs 3 'Safety' (Speed) Cameras - one camera covering all 4 lanes acting as a 'Blunt Machete' at all times, scalping the heads of the 'unaware driver' if they even decide to even do 5 miles an hour above the speed of the normal traffic on our Motorways, which sits around 75-76mph when its free flowing (which isn't often, so someone decided that if it ever is, would be a good way of making £100)
Its seems the power's that be have decided that given we can't stop real blunt machetes been used by crazed people, or lorry drivers playing iPads at the wheel or driving over people.
The next best thing to keep us 'safe' is to spend vast amounts of time and resources building a network of camera systems (paid for by £100 fines), to fuck off every high mileage driver in the UK by getting them to waste the few hours they do have free between work, doing shitty paperwork, attending a course listening to a monotone blurb on the dangers of this extra 5 mile per hour, that hasn't yet done me any harm in 25 years of driving, upto now.
You have to listen to this blurb, thinking - if they actually want drivers to drive at 70mph past the Hadecs 3 camera, they could actually turn on the Gantry sign to show the 70mph National speed limit, or paint the Gantry Bright Yellow or the Camera yellow - but no, that too much fucking effort for the Highways Agency, better to use the Blunt Machete method, send a ticket for your lapse in judgement at this crucial 'Motorway Blackspot', your speed lapse been seen as an absolute danger every minute of the day.
Add to the fact, they are to tiny (show box sized) and painted grey (even the few that are painted yellow, aren't exactly visible from a distance).
Now if there wasn't the incentive to make a £100 a pop to pay for all this head scalping, they would (of course) still be doing this for my 'safety', because I need to aware of what it feels like to be attacked by a blunt machete, when I'm driving normal traffic speeds.
Tuesday 9th August 2016 07:38 GMT David Roberts
Seems about right for the UK
Most journeys for these vehicles - yummy mummies carting their precious offspring around in these "Chelsea Tractors" to and from school - will be under 20 minutes of urban driving.
Longer trips on out of town roads are inherently less polluting. The worst pollution comes from cars on short journeys with the engine not up to operating temperature.
So it seems a pretty good strategy; just needs to detect stop/start driving and revert to eco mode and job done!
Tuesday 9th August 2016 07:57 GMT Anonymous Coward
Cars, IoT, Smart TV, Android spyware, Windows-10...
Saving a lot of money right now by not buying any of the above sh1t....
Not that that will change a single executive's mind at corporate HQ.
Expect this to get far worse, beyond emissions and car hacking etc.
Corporations no longer listen to consumers, just industry spin-heads!
Tuesday 9th August 2016 08:52 GMT nijam
There's not enough detail in this El Reg article to imply that this is actually a cheat. It's already well-understood that the engine management system needs to know when it's under test (at least the idiotic rolling road tests that government agencies use). It's definitely not obvious to me that VW are somehow less trustworthy than the EPA or any of their litigious associates.
Tuesday 9th August 2016 11:24 GMT Anonymous Coward
If VW are needing a new Spin Doctor I think you just got the job.
This is all about profit and fuck all about emissions. Re-develop a whole new Engine, or fudge the engine management software, we know the winner in that one, everytime.
The idea though its only VW is the biggest con against the paying public here.
You could pick apart a range of cars with deceptively low/similar CO2 levels, for the size of vehicle/performance charts, and I'd bet you'd find the same incriminating dirt. Its pretty obvious a deal has been done in secret with other motor manufacturers to get their house in order, and quickly.
VW are just the headline Patsy in this scandal.