back to article Torrent is a word, and you can't ban words, rules French court

The High Court of Paris has decided there's a limit to France's unpopular anti-copying regime: Google and Bing can't be required to block the word “torrent” from their search results just because BitTorrent is sometimes used for piracy. The case was brought by the Syndicat National de l'édition Phonographique, France's record …

  1. Khaptain Silver badge

    De plus en plus ridicule

    I would also like to make a request to the SNP and ask that they remove "Kendji Girac, Shy’m, and Christophe Willem" from public view as I would consider them a safety risk to public health. Hearing any of them gives headaches and severe amounts of nausea.

    What these people truly fail to realize is that the internet is merely a vector, it is not the cause. The internet is a very dynamic vector, today it's torrents, tomorrow it will be Dark Web Treasure Chests or FTTH hidden VPNs..

    For once I am satisfied that the French judicial system has made a correct decision.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: De plus en plus ridicule

      What you failed to realize is that Google and Microsoft, which were on trial, are not "the Internet", but companies.

  2. Tromos

    OK, they can't block 'torrent', but I see no reason for not complying with the other part of their request and removing their names from all searches.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    torrent

    I declare this month's word to click on as "tuerrenta". :)

  4. Alister Silver badge
    Coat

    Dear sir, I wish to complain, I am a fan of fast flowing rivers, and have recently been unable to satisfy my obsession as I am unable to google "raging torrent".

    1. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken Silver badge

      Well, if that's what floats your boat...

      1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        At least locally, torrenting is a description of heavy rain too. eg whey man, it's torrentin' doon!

  5. malle-herbert Silver badge
    Joke

    I think the world would be better off...

    If they blocked words like :

    Bieber

    Kanye

    Taylor

    Paris

    Trump

    Etc...

    1. Richard 22

      Re: I think the world would be better off...

      Can't see a French court banning the word Paris...

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: I think the world would be better off...

        ... unless it's followed by "Hilton". On your next trip, try to look for a different hotel brand :)

    2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      Re: I think the world would be better off...

      you forgot Kardashian!

  6. Mag07

    It seems the only reason for this exercise was to make unknown artists known; at least in name. Have to say it's a way more cost effective strategy than your main stream celebrity marketing.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    le torrant

    showing results for LE TORRENT

  8. JohnG Silver badge

    "...a trio of French artists – Kendji Girac, Shy’m, and Christophe Willem. SNEP wanted to use Article L336-2 of France's intellectual property law to force Google and Microsoft to delete searches that included both “torrent” and any of the artists' names."

    If Google and/or Microsoft were feeling vindictive, they might choose to simply fail to return results of searches for the names of the three artists concerned, just to be on the safe side. After all, that would encompass the request of the SNEP.

    1. DubyaG

      And also remove any results for all reference to the SNEP. So, there!

  9. Anonymous Noel Coward
    Big Brother

    Banning words, eh?

    I wonder what people would do when they're subjected to a [this word has been banned] of abuse?

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      To be fair, they were only requesting a block on searches of a word where the search ALSO included the named artists. A bit like Google not blocking searches for Paris except when the search ALSO included the lterm "Hilton sex tape"

  10. Spudley

    Much simpler solution

    These artists have wasted their time and money taking this thing to court when there was a much simpler solution available to them.

    All they need to do is release a song with the name "Torrent". Preferrably make it a good song that people actually want to listen to. Get it reviewed, play-listed, written about, talked about.

    Now, suddenly, anyone doing a google search for your name plus "torrent" will find that the dodgy download links are swamped out by legitimate links about your music.

    The first artist that does this will win the game.

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: Much simpler solution

      Genius. Seriously. Up voted.

  11. John Lilburne Silver badge

    "just because BitTorrent is sometimes used for piracy."

    Er no almost all of BitTorrent traffic is piracy some say upto 99.7% of it is.

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2010/07/only-03-of-files-on-bit-torrent-confirmed-to-be-legal/

    Contrary to geek fantasy the world and its dog isn't downloading linux distros via bittorrent on a daily basis, or massive games from the publishers. They are downloading films, music, and tv shows.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      " the world and its dog isn't downloading linux distros via bittorrent on a daily basis"

      He's right! I'm a Linux user and I can't tell the difference between a torrent and this dead crab.

    2. no-one in particular

      > "just because BitTorrent is sometimes used for piracy."

      > Er no almost all of BitTorrent traffic is piracy some say upto 99.7% of it is.

      Leaving aside the unassailable statistical accuracy of "some say", how does that stack up against the use of, say, HTTP or FTP for piracy? At what level of piracy (and other undesirable activity) should those other channels start to be denigrated?

      1. heyrick Silver badge

        "should those other channels start to be denigrated?"

        Especially considering that this morning before work I watched three videos on YouTube, none of which was put there by the artist of their publisher...

      2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
        Alien

        "Leaving aside the unassailable statistical accuracy of "some say"

        Ever since watching a couple of episodes of Ancient Astronauts and hearing the phrase "Some ancient astronaut theorists say...." so many times per episode, I'm extremely wary of anyone making claims that include "some say.."

    3. TheVogon Silver badge

      "Er no almost all of BitTorrent traffic is piracy some say upto 99.7% of it is."

      That's still "sometimes".

      1. John Lilburne Silver badge

        That's still "sometimes".

        No its the reverse. Sometimes means 'occasionally' or once in a while. It would be far more accurate to say "just because BitTorrent is sometimes NOT used for piracy." However, I note that the phrase has now been removed from the article.

        1. Drewc (Written by Reg staff) Gold badge

          Re: That's still "sometimes".

          The phrase has not been removed.

        2. TheVogon Silver badge

          Re: That's still "sometimes".

          "Sometimes means 'occasionally' or once in a while"

          It also means 'in certain cases but not always'.

          Anyway I'm dubious of your claim of 99.7% of traffic seeing as Linux versions etc. are commonly torrented. 99.7% of hosted files on some torrent hosts maybe. A citation is required...

    4. Vic

      Contrary to geek fantasy the world and its dog isn't downloading linux distros via bittorrent on a daily basis

      Well, I'm running a couple of CentOS torrents, and I can assure you that someone *is* downloading from them on a daily basis.

      Vic.

    5. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Distributing Linux via Torrent is violating the GPLv2, that's why

      The FSF itself said it:

      "[...] downloading binaries of GPL-covered programs with BitTorrent violated GPL version 2, because with BitTorrent every downloader also redistributes."

      That little nugget appeared in their rant against ZFS on Linux

      https://www.fsf.org/licensing/zfs-and-linux

  12. Potemkine Silver badge

    "Prehistoric music industry, Three feet in la brea tar"...

    When Greed is not enough, you can always count on the Recording Industry to go a step further.

  13. FuzzyWuzzys Silver badge
    Facepalm

    So based on that we should ban the following words too, despite all having perfectly legal and valuable reasons to be searched for...

    pirate

    piracy

    hack

    crack

    download

    rip-off

    steal

    theif

    screener

    mp3

    mp4

    avi

    Well you get the idea.

    1. Anonymous Noel Coward
      Childcatcher

      I don't see "child" on that list...

  14. FredBloggs61

    Won't somebody please think of the children!!!

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