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North Korea appears to have created a Facebook clone. Internet management outfit Dyn spotted the site late last week and helpfully provided the screen shot below for the site, which could be found at www.starcon.net.kp/. North Korea launches globally accessible Facebook clone (hosted in North Korea!) https://t.co/EbwSH8Zzc9 …

  1. kain preacher Silver badge

    I would not want to be responsible for that screw up. This is likely to get some one in front of HR firing squad .

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      These ultra-paranoid states don't tend to work like that. Being "subversive" is the greatest crime, perceived or otherwise, including someone accusing you for their own personal gains, or corruption in (military) police.

      Also no society is without social stratification, and there's bound to be "classes" of North Korean who are easier to persecute than others. So long as it wasn't seen as "sabotaging the state", I doubt the relatively highly educated people responsible were shot or even punished for this.

      Mine is a wild ass speculation too because so little is known about NK. But extrapolating from Nazi Germany, McCarthyist USA, and the machinations of the Chinese politburo, I think it's probably closer to the truth.

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        1. dbtx Bronze badge

          Re: McCarthy

          Is that an invitation to go forth and stuff my own information tray? It hasn't caught on as well as Rule 34 but my own rule says, "You can *always* find someone on the Internet who already agrees with you, or who will, no matter how absurd your claim." Right before being asked if he had no shame, he (almost reflexively) tried to discredit a person for having communist relatives or communist ties or whatever-- as opposed to actually defending himself. Is that "totally right"?

    2. TheWeenie
      Mushroom

      I would not want to be responsible for that screw up. This is likely to get some one in front of HR firing squad .

      Surely Mr Kim wrote the website himself, just after completing a great work of art and just before composing a new opera...

      1. Nigel 11

        I would not want to be responsible for that screw up. This is likely to get some one in front of HR firing squad .

        Unless it was a trojan horse. Mr. Kim may be having the last laugh here.

        I hope that the folks who "hacked it to death" used sacrificial PCs for their hacking, which were well-firewalled during the hack and then then reformatted and reinstalled. Personally I'd be a little bit more paranoid that that. NK is probably ahead of the world on firmware-resident malware, and the only really safe thing to do would be put the PC in the acid bath afterwards.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Yes, that is also a thing, especially common in Asian history.

        Great works or inventions were assigned to emperors or other patrons, rather than the legion of actual artists.

        Come to think of it, that sounds just like the MPAA/RIAA today.

  2. Mark 85 Silver badge

    Low membership potential.

    Since only the upper leadership and selected officials have internet access anyway (according to reports), the bigwigs will have to go back to meeting at Kim's house.

    1. Robert Helpmann?? Silver badge
      Big Brother

      Re: Low membership potential.

      "Oh look! My neighbor changed his status from 'Starving' to 'Hungry'. I wonder what he did to merit... Hold on. Someone's at the door."

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    That prison camp, while horrifying and medieval, looks far less overcrowded than a US jail.

    And is eating a fresh rat really worse than prison loaf? Being forced to eat intentionally bland food for an extended period makes you sick and averse to eating.

    We instinctively know what a 20th century police state looks like, in the 21st century we've become good at hiding the police and the bars, creating a structurally invisibly prison society.

    Carry on North Korea, you're doing great.

  4. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

    Wow, first their own* OS, now their own* 'social network'** - what's happening?

    * Where 'own' means copying something freely availiable and revamping it a bit.

    ** Not a new idea for North Korea per se, it's just that up until now 'social network' meant the queue in front of the grocery store.

    1. brotherelf
      Devil

      They also have (or had) their own audio format – last time I looked at the Voice of Korea's web page (with all the leaders' names larger than the surrounding text), their downloads required you to use their own "customized" media player.

  5. Winkypop Silver badge
    Joke

    Hey Kimbo543

    Me love you long time!

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    All jokes aside, it is also worth remembering that the United Nations' 2014 Inquiry on Human Rights in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea found conditions in the nation are truly horrendous and that human rights abuses take place with “gravity, scale and nature … that does not have any parallel in the contemporary world.”

    You forgot to mention they eat dogs, have discovered a way to reverse death by bringing a previously executed high ranking official back to life on a monthly basis and are responsible for every large hack.

    Whilst I agree their human rights conditions are probably not the greatest and they do aspire to be a nuclear power it's quite clear the neo-liberal western media have more of an issue with communism. Due to this I take the comment with a pinch of salt especially due to the fact they don't allow foreigners full access to the country. It's also worth noting that any evidence from defectors have to use human rights abuses in their claim for asylum.

    1. fandom Silver badge

      Dude, you are funny

    2. Wade Burchette

      @AC

      You should read some reports on North Korea's concentration camps and read interviews by their defectors.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: @AC

        Sure, I can imagine a US based organisation being completely truthful about North Korea. Especially since the US split Korea to stop the advance of communism.

        I'm not communist though I don't believe everything I read.

        Again, as I have pointed out a defector is not going to say "it was a lovely country but I fancied a change"

        Maybe if there wasn't so much bullshit about hacking or dead military commanders I would actually believe what is written, however due to the bullshit it makes it very difficult to trust what is being written.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Surprised?

    You shouldn't be, Its a great way of validating people's information against other more secretive sources.

    It's basically outsourcing the spies efforts on profiling back to the unwitting source.

    Cant see it getting used much given the lack of access in NK though.

  8. King Jack
    Trollface

    Government that already spies on citizens

    Can you name a government that does not spy on its citizens?

    1. Mage Silver badge

      Re: Government that already spies on citizens

      Any hints, I'm struggling... Somalia maybe doesn't spy on its citizens?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Government that already spies on citizens

      Tuvalu?

    3. Valeyard

      Re: Government that already spies on citizens

      Can you name a government that does not spy on its citizens?

      US! we only spy on the yanks, and they spy on us, then we swap the findings.

      all perfectly legit

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    @AC

    "You forgot to mention they eat dogs"

    Why do some people always jump on this?

    Some countries eat horse meat, is that wrong?

    In some countries eating pig is bad.

    Rabbits are cuddly pets to some people, but delicious to others.

    Why judge, just because it isn't part of your society?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Personally I couldn't care less, you seem to miss the point of highlighting western media and their portrayal of North Korea which is usually a mixture of lies, truth and something in between which I like to call "Blame without proof then never correct it when the truth is found"

      I'm not judging I'm just highlighting the fact that due to the west's neo-liberal interest in not allowing a communist ideology to flourish I take articles and comments with a huge pinch of salt. I have and probably will get downvoted a lot, do I care? Nope, however to not comment on a part of the article which served no purpose other than to re-iterate the way western media likes to portray another country would be wrong. Do we add comments about human rights abuses with regards to indiscriminate drone strikes and assassinations to articles about the US? No we don't, so why should this be done for another country?

      Edit: You can apply the above to Russia and Iran if you want. Same result. If you don't bend over for western ideology then you are evil.

      1. Valeyard

        If you don't bend over for western ideology then you are evil.

        a north korean would probably take that label happily if their only punishment is being called a name, but at the moment they're fucked if they don't use one of the like 5 officially sanctioned hairstyles

        it could be communist, capitalist or FSM; it's the human rights abuses people are arguing about here, not the communism

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          5 officially sanctioned hairstyles, I thought it was 18.

          Back in 2005, North Korean state TV launched a five part series entitled 'Let us trim our hair in accordance with Socialist lifestyle' with the aim of promoting short back and sides for its male population.

          What part of that is forced?

          Seriously, I think brainwashing and differing opinions are frowned upon these days.

          1. Valeyard

            5 officially sanctioned hairstyles, I thought it was 18.

            oh well that's perfectly fine then

            if i was offered the choice of the official hairstyles such as "the cameron, the osborne, the boris, the theresa may.." i wouldn't be awed at the sheer number of styles, I'd be annoyed that there was a number involved anywhere

            you go on and live there son and tell me freely, online, how good and free and open it is and how much better than the UK life is

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Do you speak from experience? or do you speak from what you have been told?

              Promotion and forced are two different words as I quite clearly stated.

              I wouldn't live in North Korea personally, I don't need to pick a repressive regime, we have one here already,

              1. Valeyard

                Do you speak from experience? or do you speak from what you have been told?

                says the voice of experience. ok ok you know more about north korea than me given your extensive travelling there

              2. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Fellow anon, which repressive regime? US? UK? Most of EU?

                1. fandom Silver badge

                  Sorry, I was wrong, you are not funny, you are hilarious.

                  But, for some reason, people insist on taking you seriously, talk about being gullible.

                  1. Anonymous Coward
                    Anonymous Coward

                    Oh for the love of dog...

                    Stop believing everything you read.

                    Stop being a consumer.

                    Stop arguing for no reason.

                    Stop pigeon holing yourself.

                    Eat more asparagus.

                    My point was valid and will always be valid as long as we have a media apparatus that has it's own agenda. Hilarious? I think not to most people. Grow some balls and use that mind you were blessed with.

                    1. fandom Silver badge

                      "Stop believing everything you read."

                      That's easy, after all nobody does

                      "Stop being a consumer"

                      Sounds nice, but I Iike eating from time to time.

                      "Stop arguing for no reason"

                      Again, nobody does, but then I can see why you would like your word to be taken as gospell.

                      "Stop pigeon holing yourself."

                      Whatever that means

                      "Eat more asparagus."

                      How can I possibly do that without being a consumer?

  10. Peter Clarke 1
    Coat

    Choices, Choices

    Who would you trust least with your personal data???

    www.facebook.nk or www.facebook.com ???

  11. Taegukgi

    Why is everything on the sign-in page in English?

    If it really is made for the people of NK to use that is!!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Why is everything on the sign-in page in English?

      Thank fudge someone else has spotted the obvious. I didn't want to point that out until enough people made arses of themselves.

      So, do we still believe western media?

      1. P. Lee Silver badge

        Re: Why is everything on the sign-in page in English?

        So, do we still believe western media?

        Because it tells us what we want to hear.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    NorkBook

    Any signs of a Winklevoss lawsuit yet?

    This was clearly stolen from them. Their idea was to build a social network exclusive to people in an isolated group.

  13. Herby Silver badge

    If you like North Korea...

    I understand they have this wonderful large hotel that they would like to sell to you. Brand new, never been used.

    Probably complete with speakers in every room ready for "hole in one" Kim ready to indoctrinate you on a daily basis.

    Oh, one last thing. You might have to live there, and nobody stays there either, as having a "disposable income" really is frowned upon.

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