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RIP QuickTime for Windows. Apple is "deprecating support" for the application, and will no longer patch security flaws in the software. The iGiant is also quietly advising users to uninstall the media player from their Windows machines to avoid being hacked. Word of the end of support comes from infosec biz Trend Micro. It …

  1. graeme leggett

    perhaps

    The Apple software updater program on my computer will flag up this issue and advise me to uninstall QuickTime.

    Oh, no. Wait. It won't because the updater is broken on my Windows 7 installation -broken when Apple's own software updated itself.

    1. tin 2

      Re: perhaps

      Late comment I know but the ever helpful Apple software updater has just kicked in and recommended I install quicktime 7.7.9 because it "improves security".

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Hell yeah. QuickTime was the foshizzle before DivX ;-) came along.

  3. J J Carter Silver badge
    Trollface

    WTF!

    People are still using Quicktime? In 2016?

    NB Flushing away Apple Bonjour is also a good idea.

    1. Geoffrey W Silver badge

      Re: WTF!

      They probably have an old copy of Myst and are determined to finish that damn game before they die

      1. cosymart
        Facepalm

        Re: WTF!

        That explains two things: 1) why I needed Quick Time and 2) why I am having trouble getting out of this wooden box.

    2. Barry Rueger Silver badge

      Re: WTF!

      2016? I'm fairly sure I haven't used it since 2006!

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: WTF!

        2016? I'm fairly sure I haven't used it since 2006!

        I'm pretty sure I've not used it since I found VLC - even on a Mac - and that is *quite* some time ago :).

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: WTF!

          My copies of VLC all have libquicktime_plugin.dll in their directories. Is that an Apple file? If someone reverse engineered the Apple functionality, did they mimic the fault as well?

    3. LDS Silver badge

      Re: WTF!

      For the matter Lightroom 5 asks you to install QuickTime (for its video features), don't know about LR6.

      1. EddieD

        Re: WTF!

        GoPro Studio (until I got rid of it) kept on saying that a lot of features wouldn't work unless I installed Quicktime.

        I decided to live with the lack of features, and uninstalled the studio rather than install Quicktime. I don't think I've had it on my Windows machine for well over a decade.

      2. paulf Silver badge
        Mushroom

        Re: WTF!

        @ LDS

        "For the matter Lightroom 5 asks you to install QuickTime (for its video features), don't know about LR6."

        One of Canon's photo tools on the Mac (Zoom Browser or Image Browser - the same package has a different name on Windows) demands fucking Silverlight to install and run properly.

        When I pointed out Canon's shoddy approach to application development their response can be summarised as "¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: WTF!

          "One of Canon's photo tools on the Mac demands fucking Silverlight"

          Fucking Silverlight? I wouldn't even kiss it.

          1. paulf Silver badge
            Coffee/keyboard

            Re: WTF!

            @ Anonymous Coward

            "Fucking Silverlight? I wouldn't even kiss it."

            See icon!

    4. Tim Jenkins

      Re: WTF!

      Bonjour is a requirement for using networked FileMaker* (also an Apple product, though not really marketed as being so).

      *I know; the answer would be not to use FileMaker, and I wish I didn't have to...

      1. Robert Helpmann?? Silver badge
        Childcatcher

        Re: WTF!

        Apple drops support for one of their products on a rival platform? Next you will be telling me that they discontinued support for Safari on Windows systems.

  4. Michael Hoffmann
    Facepalm

    Trailers Site?

    Stupid question: Apple's own movie trailers website (apple.com/trailers) demand QuickTime. What are they proposing for that? "Only access our trailers site through QuickTime on a Mac"?

    That's one approach to marketing, I guess...

    1. Mage Silver badge
      Trollface

      Re: Trailers Site?

      Also you can only browse iBook Titles on an Apple thing. What if I was thinking of getting an ipad and wanted to know what's on offer?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Trailers Site?

      ...which reminds me, since El Capitan disabled iPhoto and moved everything into this horrible 'Photos' app (about the hardest search term to google support for!) - all of my movies imported from my camera now flag up as unplayable due to being an unsupported format. They previously played happily in Quicktime (when I was on Mountain Lion).

      Apple have obviously undertaken a severe change of direction re codecs and media players - which has left its customer base lurching all over the place.

      1. Richard Parkin

        iPhoto still works with El Capitain

        As subject

      2. Mpeler
        Pint

        Re: Trailers Site?

        Wow, now Apple is imitating Micro$haft...

        Time for a beer (or ten), everyone (there's a tear in my beer)...

  5. framitzula

    I got rid of QuickTime and ITunes years ago, I have never missed either.

  6. hellwig Silver badge

    Already Uninstalled

    I uninstalled Quicktime when I upgraded from Windows ME to XP, about 15 years ago, but thanks for the heads up.

    While we're on the subject, should I also uninstall Real Player?

    1. Def Silver badge

      Re: Already Uninstalled

      No, you should keep Real Player. I think it could turn out to be quite handy for helping train your brain to recognise things when your eyes are burned out and you can't see any detail smaller than a barn.

    2. Mage Silver badge

      Re: Real Player

      Yes, or at least disable it in Browser.

      Real Alternative

      http://www.videohelp.com/software/Real-Alternative

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealPlayer#Real_Alternative

  7. Shane Lusby

    In other news, users should update their calendar to 2016 as 2002 is no longer supported.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    This is going to be one of the interesting points in the near future: Since so many devices come with CDs/DVDs/Downloads that still install quicktime it is going to povide a serious attack-vector into private and corporate fat-clients.

  9. ATeal

    When I read quicktime...

    My first thought was "holy crap! It worked! WHAT YEAR IS IT?!"

  10. Test Man

    I got my HP laptop with Windows 7 x64 back in 2012. I installed QuickTime and it decided to not play nicely with Windows' own file association manager so I removed it. Since then I have installed 8, 8.1 and 10. I haven't encountered one single piece of software or website that required QuickTime. Tell a lie, iTunes requires it for the movies. As I don't play movies on my laptop, it stays uninstalled.

    QuickTime was dead to me way back.

    1. Teiwaz Silver badge

      Slowtime

      "back in 2012. I installed QuickTime and it decided to not play nicely with Windows' own file association manager so I removed it"

      This was an issue at the turn of the century with quicktime. It and Realplayer would overwrite existing file associations for all media types. You may have installed it to play one filetype, but they assumed by default you'd want to use it for everything because they thought it was the bees knees.

      I couldn't uninstall it fast enough back then, even with the amount of content on the net only viewable with them.

      1. Shannon Jacobs

        Re: Slowtime

        Does that mean the Reg has been reimplemented as a Quicktime website? Gawdawful slow now, and actually reminding me of what I thought was the worst performing website (HBO's), which I'm pretty sure is implemented in Flash. Substance last, eh?

        Punchline is that this is probably my first visit to the Reg in about a year (off of a /. link), though I used to visit the Reg on a daily basis. Is that mindless troll still denying climate change between his diaper changes? Or has he finally noticed the record temperatures each year? Naw, he probably has another idiotic article around here explaining why today's latest news from Greenland doesn't mean shite.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Slowtime

          Punchline is that this is probably my first visit to the Reg in about a year (off of a /. link) (whinge whinge)

          Well, cu next year then. I think that's in about 100 DevOps articles.

          /walks away cackling

        2. John F***ing Stepp
          Happy

          Re: Slowtime

          Some of the best sarcastic wit I have seen on your side of the atlantic pot hole and you call him a troll; the man plays the perfect dumbass better than Steve Colbert, have some respect.

      2. Havin_it
        Boffin

        Re: Slowtime

        >It and Realplayer would overwrite existing file associations for all media types.

        You sure about that? ISTR that a screen on the installer (or possibly on first-run) let me choose the associations. The defaults may as you suggest have been all in QT's favour, but I'm sure there was a "No to all" option, whereafter I could re-enable only the file-types (.mov) I actually needed it for.

        Was it all a dream? /wibblylines

  11. The Alphabet

    "Apple does not respond to The Register's requests for comment."

    1. LDS Silver badge
      Joke

      It's just because they answer with a QuickTime video and El Reg can't play them...

  12. MD Rackham

    Lots of broken apps in the future

    There are a lot of video apps that rely on the QuickTime for Windows SDK to support common video formats (e.g., ProRes). If you uninstall all of QuickTime best case is the apps lose some functionality. Worst (and most common) case is that the apps will refuse to launch for lack of the DLL.

    I suspect a bunch of high-end video cameras who are launching ProRes support at NAB next week will be thrilled to discover that there is no way to access their video files on Windows. No doubt Apple will be very forgiving about that ProRes license fee (ha!).

    What Apple should be advising is removing the QuickTime Player app and the browser plug-in. No loss there.

    1. Jos V

      Re: Lots of broken apps in the future

      MD Rackman, VLC player supports prores. iTunes, realplayer, Quicktime? Haven't let any of those come near my computers in over a decade.

      From the VideoLAN website:

      VLC 2.0:

      Support for ProRes 422 and 4444, AVC/Intra.

      Support for Jpeg-2000, Dirac and DNxHD/VC-3 in 10bits.

      Support for EBU subtitles (stl) and EIA-608.

      SDI and HD-SDI card support for input on Linux.

      New Dirac/VC-2 encoder, faster than the previous one

      1. LDS Silver badge

        Re: Lots of broken apps in the future

        It's not a matter of video players, it's some video processing/management application relies on QuickTIme to access some video formats. QuickTime does offer an SDK many applications, especially those supported on both OSX and Windows (see some Adobe one), use. And you can't replace that support simply installing VideoLAn or any other player - applications needs to be rewritten to use some other video library.

        That's why the news Apple is not going to support QuickTime on Windows anymore without officially announcing its EoL in advance may be a nasty surprise.

  13. decoherence

    Some Adobe CC applications still make use of QuickTime. What do they have to say about this?

  14. x 7

    The Edius video editing suite depends on Quicktime as its default HD playback medium.

    A lot of people using it are going to be very pissed off

  15. kain preacher Silver badge

    Apple has never been happy supporting their software on windows. Safari any one ?

  16. Grease Monkey

    But if you ask any fanboi they will tell you that all iProducts are 100% secure.

  17. Efros

    I know not of what you speak

    Quick what now?

  18. Stevie Silver badge

    Bah!

    Oh well.

    You Don't suppose this is another one of Apples retarded, doomed-from-the-get-go strategies to persuade people to switch to the Mac do you?

    We are talking here about the company that once got famous people to say on air that installing a printer on a Windows computer required removing the case. In 1996.

    1. Hans 1 Silver badge
      Joke

      Re: Bah!

      you did, in some cases, as you needed to install more RAM for the printer driver.

    2. LDS Silver badge
      Joke

      Re: Bah!

      Of course, if you had to add an AppleTalk card...

  19. LaeMing Silver badge
    Linux

    @ProprietaryFormatProblems

  20. markusgarvey
    Pint

    The jokes on them, I never install the buggy crapware.

  21. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Remove quicktime?

    The pleasure is all mine.

  22. Privatelyjeff

    Probably being replaced

    What's probably really happening is that apple is no longer supporting the current version, as a new one will be launched with the next iTunes major release.

  23. chivo243 Silver badge

    Quicktime?

    I don't even use it on my mac. VLC all the way any day!

  24. Elmer Phud Silver badge

    You may scoff . . .

    . . . but I see it being used in schools.

    Maybe the Reg readers forget that yer average public run with what they are forced/encouraged to use forom day one.

    Teachers at a local school are fed up with me saying 'what the fuck are you using that shit for? "it's what comes up when I click on . . ."

    (and they blame QT when they are trying to stream stuff off the creaky server and look embarassed when it falters - they still use MS Media Player too, and can't turn off it;s crappy visualisation)

  25. jason 7

    Apple just isnt serious...

    ....about any computing other than iPhone and Tablet.

  26. Fihart

    unwanted spawn of demonic iTunes

    As I recall, QuickTime is normally installed when the hated iTunes is downloaded.

    I can't bring myself to look any more than is necessary at the computer I quarantine iTunes on.

    But any other reluctant users might want to check.

    1. Test Man

      Re: unwanted spawn of demonic iTunes

      Nah it hasn't done that in years now - it was dropped from the installer.

  27. Mage Silver badge

    QuickTime and iTunes

    Removed both* these pests long ago.

    Shame on Apple they don't implement proper USB mass storage for their devices.

    [*I'm not partisan, I removed Silverlight and replaced Realplayer with "real Alternative"]

    I have bare minimum of stuff that is allowed to run in a browser. I use NoScript, Java is off and Flash is set to prompt, never auto run. Anything else has to be downloaded.

  28. Unicornpiss Silver badge
    Meh

    Whenever I notice Quicktime on a PC...

    I always get disgusted, like when I'm following someone with a particularly annoying bumper sticker. I've always despised that app. Nice to know even its publisher is giving it the heave ho.

  29. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Australia FAIL

    Please note uninstalling QuickTime will break your logos on invoices in MYOB. Yes QuickTime. For Pommies MYOB "mind your own business" is (was) the dominant SMB accounting software in 'sraya.

    I think it might be something to do with GIF resizing.

    I'm pretty sure about this, but MYOB tends to make my subconscious kick in to prevent trauma. *shivers*

    The obvious fix is to uninstall MYOB. Please I get flashbacks just thinking about it.

    (One day I may wish to apply for a job - hence the Noel)

  30. oceanhippie

    The Nineties Called.

    They say they want QuickTime back.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Ironic. Don't you think? It's like....

      Did the Nineties also say that they wanted their "The [decade] called. They say they want [something] back" meme back?

  31. Aodhhan Bronze badge
    Devil

    The big reason Apple gets upset about the Government's demanding something of it, is because they believe they should be setting the demands on everyone all the time.

    Everyone must use Apple products so we can control you.

    Apple has a shot at controlling the world as long as there are people who will pay twice as much for Apple products and get half the features, security, functionality and performance.

  32. AegisPrime

    Hmm...

    Windows applications I use daily that rely on QuickTime:

    DaVinci Resolve

    The Foundry Nuke

    Blackmagic Fusion

    LightWave 3D

    Modo

    TMPGEnc Authoring Works

    TVPaint

    Sony Vegas Pro

    Lightworks

    Red Giant PluralEyes

    FilmConvert

    If it's a pro-video application, chances are it needs QuickTime (especially since ProRes is ubiquitous in the industry) - time for them to switch to ffmpeg methinks (and to tell Apple to fuck off when they threaten to sue because ProRes is proprietary).

    1. MD Rackham

      Re: Hmm...

      "and to tell Apple to fuck off when they threaten to sue because ProRes is proprietary"

      You first. Let me know how your legal battle goes, and how your lawyers like their Veyrons.

      And ffmpeg doesn't allow for retrieving random frames from GOP encoded codecs, making it useless for most video apps. (And the fork that does (slowly) provide for that is GPL (not LGPL) which rules it out for commercial software.)

    2. Bill7718

      Re: Hmm...

      Exactly. The people here laughing at people still using the QuickTime PLAYER are entirely justified. Unfortunately, most professional video editing and FX software on the Windows platform depends on the QuickTime CODECS and SDK in one way or another. Unfortunately, you have to install the player to install the codecs.

      However, I would think if someone came up with a set of steps or a script to manually remove the player files and all of the various registry hooks that allow *.mov files to be opened by web pages, and possibly those which allow the codecs to be used by other things like Windows Media Player, then you would be reasonably safe unless you actually opened a maliciously encoded MOV file inside your video editing or related software, which would be unlikely. Maybe someone will come up with such a hack to work around this issue until the various software vendors have a chance to replace their QuickTime dependencies with some alternative.

  33. hi_robb

    Oh dear...

    I better get it uninstalled quicktime.......

  34. jelabarre59 Silver badge

    whyTunes

    The only reason I ever installed whyTunes was because I got a $50 gift card for it. After 16 months, I *still* have a little over $4.00 credit on it. Goes to show how much useful product iTunes has. (and I had to install it inside a MSWin7 test VM, since it doesn't run under Wine or Crossover Office).

    But have to uninstall QuickTime for MSWin???? Gee, all your Future Vision Multimedia CDs are gonna stop working...

  35. Dr.Flay

    Apple have always forced the exclusive use of their slow codecs for use with all other Apple products.

    They will have to finally allow iTunes etc. access to the better codecs you probably already have installed.

    Maybe finally it will allow iTunes to play some useful modern formats without needing to convert first.

    For those of you stuck with a crippled iTunes on Windows, I suggest you upgrade to Winamp (available from the Winamp forums) which has always supported iPods and IPhones.

    The only all-in-one Codec worth installing is FFDShow (the base of VLC and Media Player Classic decoding).

    It supports many Quicktime formats (and also Realplayer) and new builds are always available from www.free-codecs.com

  36. jingdongsh

    You can use iDealshare VideoGo to convert MOV to Windows Media Player more supported WMV, AVI, ASF for playing MOV on all versions of Windows Media Player.

  37. razorfishsl

    You cannot if you use "filemaker" on windows, another of Apples completely gash products.

    Bug ridden and 8-12 moth bug fix cycle.... no not quicktime- filemaker

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