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Worcestershire man Grant Manser has pleaded guilty to six counts of computer misuse offences after selling booter software on the dark web. The 20 year old sold the software while aged just 16 for between £5 and £20 a pop during the four years from January 2012, The Daily Mail reports. He pleaded guilty to six charges under …

  1. Tromos

    Way too soft a sentence

    I bet he gets to keep the motorbike and computer too.

    1. 2460 Something

      Re: Way too soft a sentence

      Way WAY to soft. That sentence is completely ridiculous. I thought that under the proceeds of crime act (2002) they were supposed to lose everything they gained through their criminal enterprise?

      1. Adam 52 Silver badge

        Re: Way too soft a sentence

        I expect there will be lots of comments on these lines, "hanging's too good for 'em" etc.

        Whether you like it or not the vast majority of criminal sentences will be like this. To misuse the stats by way of illustration, if he'd burnt down the datacentre as a way of doing the denial of service attack then there's only a 25% chance of a custodial sentence. If he'd defrauded his victims in some other way, 19%

        We might not like computer crime but it isn't as serious a real-world violence and it would be inconsistent to expect the justice system to treat it as.

        1. lglethal Silver badge
          Go

          Re: Way too soft a sentence

          True, but he should lose the proceeds of the crime. An 800 quid fine on 50,000 takings. Hardly discourages further criminal activities, does it?

          1. Adam 52 Silver badge

            Re: Way too soft a sentence

            Nope, but then look at Microsoft. A multi-million non-consensual advertising bot-net for a billion dollar app store business and no action taken whatsoever.

            There may well be further or ongoing proceedings under the Proceeds of Crime Act; a confiscation order wouldn't be part of the sentence and is unlikely to be reported by a journalist bashing out a quick story.

        2. Known Hero
          Unhappy

          Re: Way too soft a sentence

          better yet lets keep in line with a 1.5 million fine for downloading 24 songs!!!

          Going to agree though its not life threatening to attack computer until it kills somebody :/

      2. raving angry loony

        Re: Way too soft a sentence

        Ah yes, the oft expected "too soft" post. Someone else who doesn't think a magistrate or judge knows what they're doing.

        Note that the source of this "outrage" is the fucking Daily Mail! A piece of trash I wouldn't use to catch parrot droppings since it might poison the parrot. A "news" organization right up there with "News of the World" when it comes to anything resembling accuracy.

        So I take it that you've gone through all the actual evidence as presented in court, not just what's been reported in the press? Have you read the actual sentencing statement from the bench, and WHY they gave the sentence they did? Of course not. Just a knee-jerk conclusion based on biased reporting in the press. Go read the Daily Mail, you deserve each other.

        1. tony72
          Thumb Up

          Re: Way too soft a sentence

          It is deeply ironic that the most sensible post in the thread so far comes from someone called "raving angry loony".

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Way too soft a sentence@ raving angry loon

          Ah yes, the oft expected "too soft" post. Someone else who doesn't think a magistrate or judge knows what they're doing.

          Why do you presume that you know what the OP thinks? The main problem with "soft" sentences is Home Office sentencing guidelines that severely restrict the freedom of judges or magistrates, and is driven primarily by a lack of prison places. That's why a standard "life" imprisonment sentence is fourteen years full tariff and the criminal fuckers get out after six and a half.

          In this case, are we to presume that you think the vast disruption this tosspot caused is adequately punished by a few hours picking up litter? And that the sentence will in any way deter other prospective offenders?

    2. Tuesday Is Soylent Green Day

      Re: Way too soft a sentence

      There's always the possibility that his victims will sue him eight ways to Sunday, making his enjoyment of his ill gotten gains rather short.

    3. DocJames
      Megaphone

      Re: Way too soft a sentence

      Just to remind everyone criminal behaviour is deterred by chance of being caught, not punishment once caught.

      I suspect his earnings will have been removed in addition to the fine. The fine, as has already been pointed out, is small as he cooperated with police/prosecutors.

  2. LHGFLICOD

    An odd thought...

    Why does the headline contain the value of his parents house? I wonder if its possibly to scrape the headlines from the daily mail and see if there is a correlation between the value of a house and the types of crime committed by the occupant (and reported by the mail)

    1. graeme leggett

      Re: An odd thought...

      House prices. The Daily Mail is always banging on about house prices so I'm not surprised.

      But "teenage boffin"?

  3. Florida1920
    Coat

    Pass the Lea & Perrins

    Worcestershire man Grant Manser has pleaded guilty to six counts of computer misuse offences after selling booter software on the dark web....

    Prosecutors said he turned over £50,000 selling the services. His profits were said to have been spent on upgrades to his home computing rig and on his motorbike.

    Must be some saucy scooter.

    The one with the Norton key in the pocket.

    1. psychonaut

      Re: Pass the Lea & Perrins

      christ - do they make shit AV for bikes now?

  4. Sir Sham Cad

    That sentence

    Almost certainly explained by the guilty plea and this little snippet which basically means he's chucked all his customers under the bus:

    "He had, according to prosecutors, 12,800 registered users, of which 4,000 purchased DDoS services and carried out 603,499 attacks."

    So the arsehole gets a slap on the wrist and CPS get 12,800 more leads. Bearing in mind at least 4K of those can be directly traced to actually carrying out a shitload of attacks and someone's getting a performance related pay rise at the CPS*.

    *No I have no idea if this is even a thing so they're probably not.

    1. Old Handle

      Re: That sentence

      Not enough details, but given this was a "dark web" business, it's entirely possible he doesn't even know who most of his clients were.

  5. x 7

    first they have to find his bitcoin account.... if he's wise he'll have said nowt about that

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Linux

    Sources of distributed denial of service attacks

    "Booters are one of the most prolific sources of distributed denial of service attacks, many of which are powered by reflection and amplification attacks."

    Isn't there a third vector required to make DDOD attacks sucessfull.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Testpost

    Testpost

  8. PeterM42
    Pirate

    The MINIMUM punishment should be....

    ....removal of his testicles

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