back to article How Chairman Mao's secret military project led to a Nobel Prize

This year’s Nobel Prize award has its roots in Chairman Mao’s secret plan to systematise Chinese medicine. Half of the 2015 Nobel Prize in medicine was awarded to 83 year old Youyou Tu of the China Academy of Chinese Medical Sciences in Beijing for her work in counteracting malaria, proving the properties of Chinese herbal …

  1. Voland's right hand Silver badge

    Do not do as I do, do as I say

    Contrary to popular assumptions that Maoist China was summarily against science and scientists

    That was common across the "communist" block.

    USSR was the same. While the left hand of KGB was persecuting geneticists and shipping them to Gulag, the right hand pulled Timofeev-Resovski out of the same GULAG, nursed him back to health from the verge of death, gave him his own classified research center to work on radiation genetics and kept it classified all the way until the day Lysenko was given the boot.

  2. Your alien overlord - fear me

    I won a Nobel prize, did Youyou Tu?

    1. GrumpenKraut

      Congratulations to you and Youyou Tu. Is there a video of you and Youyou Tu on YouTube, too?

      1. Desidero

        Yes, go to YouyouTu.be

        And do do that voodoo that Youyou Tu do so well.

  3. Phil Skuse

    The “Four Olds” : habits, culture and ideas

    Nobody expects the Chinese Revolution!

    </python>

  4. Robert Helpmann??
    Childcatcher

    How to End Malaria

    Make absinthe using sweet wormwood and malaria will be a thing of the past. It might not cure malaria, but odds are good it would help prevent the spread and would have better uptake than sweet wormwood tea.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It was ever so

    "the Communist party-state needed the scientific elite for certain political and practical purposes...foreign relations.. "

    One example among many, that organizations are often prepared to compromise their belief system to promote their belief system.

    A cheerful start to Monday.

  6. Your alien overlord - fear me

    Did the Nobel prize for physics goto YoYo too?

  7. M Bargo

    In her later career she created the in-house fashion label for Sainsbury's supermarket.

  8. Rich 11

    A bit quacky

    proving the properties of Chinese herbal remedies using the Western scientific method.

    With all due respect to Professor Tu, the interpretation that she proved anything useful about Chinese herbal remedies is mistaken. She and her team looked at the literature regarding traditional remedies which were claimed to have fever-fighting properties of some sort, and out of the 2000 they were able to identify less than a third were subsequently determined to have any measurable effect in that regard. That's not a good hit rate for any system of medicine.

    There are already enough crooks and sadly deluded people on the Internet quacking on about how Tu has validated traditional Chinese medicine. Please don't encourage anyone to go down that route.

    1. Grikath
      Facepalm

      Re: A bit quacky

      yeah.... It's amazing how backwards western medieval methods like cobwebs and bread mould could claim to cure people... oh!...wait!... Penicillin, aspirin, got isolated that way...

      Of course.. that was OUR Superior western folk medicine, which of course is much more suited for efficacy/isolation studies than that backwards system the chinese developed in a different biotope.

      You wonder why Big Pharma took up this method of isolation/efficacy research on every new plant/animal they can get their hands on. Because it clearly can't work. All that stuff is from Furrin' Parts, you'd have to wash your hands after! Everybody knows a Good Stink is what keeps Disease away, after all!

      1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

        Re: A bit quacky

        Modern pharmacology doesn't justify "western folk medicine" any more than it does traditional Chinese herbalism, and you're the only person here to suggest the former is "superior".

        Prescientific medicine tried a great many things, at random or according to narratives that were not grounded in any actual material causal relationship, to address a great many conditions. Of course on occasion it happened to hit on one that worked, whether that was willow bark extract or sweet wormwood.

        You might want to try a bit of critical thinking - it'd improve your arguments tremendously.

        Incidentally, would you care to cite a reputable history of the discovery of penicillin that supports your contention that it was isolated from a mold-based folk remedy? That's not Fleming's story, and even if you prefer Duchesne or Tiberio for the hero of your story, I've never seen any evidence that they were inspired by folk medicine either. And while you're at it you could cite a source for the link you imply between cobwebs and aspirin, because the rest of the world seems to be ignorant of it. (Cobwebs were traditionally used in European folk medicine as a poultice for wounds, not as an analgesic or for fever. And they don't contain acetylsalicylic acid.)

        While we're on the subject, a more apropos example would have been cinchona / quinine / malaria. There is a tale worth telling. Lucile Brockway's Science and Colonial Expansion is a good treatment.

  9. dncnvncd

    one among many

    Ever heard the term antibiotics? It is the use of biological substances occurring naturally to prevent or cure disease and illness. Quinine taken from the bark of a tree was used for malaria and standard G.I. issue for years. Jungle warfare school taught other means including mosquito nets, repellents and simple smearing of mud. If this research was due to the Vietnam War it was more likely the Chinese seeking evidence of U.S. germ warfare or them seeking an extra virulent strain of malaria. The NAZI's had an extensive program seeking natural substances for foul means. Saddam Hussein's Iraq had a similar program. Both of which caused Jewish researchers at the university at Tel Aviv to do substantial research into these substances. With Korea and Vietnam long being viewed by the Chinese as inferior buffer colonies and long standing hatred of these countries for the Chinese, it is difficult to believe the Chinese had a sudden concern for the people. The Chinese concern was in all probability less than noble and it is curious why the committee would choose to assign benevolent cause to anything Maoist did.

    1. DocJames
      Facepalm

      Re: one among many

      Possibly because even the Maoists noted that you'll find it easier to win a war if your soliders aren't all dead from malaria. Is that sufficient to explain their rationale for you?

POST COMMENT House rules

Not a member of The Register? Create a new account here.

  • Enter your comment

  • Add an icon

Anonymous cowards cannot choose their icon