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The PC market had a horror second quarter, according to new data from analyst outfits Gartner and IDC. Gartner's blaming Windows 10 for the slowdown: the firm reckons buyers are holding on to their cash before the OS drops, in order to buy machines with Microsoft's new baby pre-installed. Others are holding off because the US …

  1. TonyR

    Worldwide Is A Bit Different

    World wide shipments look interesting for Apple - http://www.macrumors.com/2015/07/09/apple-us-mac-sales-drop-2q15/

  2. Antonymous Coward
    Gimp

    WTF?

    Gartner's blaming Windows 10 for the slowdown: the firm reckons buyers are holding on to their cash before the OS drops, in order to buy machines with Microsoft's new baby pre-installed.

    Despite the extremely loudly publicised free "upgrade"? Fawn on, Gartner.

    1. Tom 7 Silver badge

      Re: WTF?

      I often wonder if Gartner are involved in some form of pump and dump. Reading their 'reports' certainly shows a lot of dumps.

    2. Mike Flex

      Re: WTF?

      "Despite the extremely loudly publicised free "upgrade"? Fawn on, Gartner."

      Yes, despite the upgrade offer. People, especially ordinary, non-Reg reading people, are quite likely to want to avoid the hassle of:

      - performing an OS upgrade (with the risk of everything going pear-shaped if the automation fails),

      - sorting out any drivers or bundled software that stop working under Win 10,

      - having to use Win 8 whilst waiting for the upgrade.

      Once you know Win 10 is on its way, it's easier to carry on with your existing kit a bit longer, let the vendors sort out the integration issues and buy something that does what you want when you buy it.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: WTF?

      "Gartner's blaming Windows 10 for the slowdown"

      "IDC says this slowdown in shipments was ‘largely anticipated as a result of stronger year-ago shipments relating to end of support for windows XP..."

    4. Richard Plinston Silver badge

      Re: WTF?

      > Gartner's blaming Windows 10 for the slowdown

      And when the figures are down further in 6 months time they can still blame Windows 10.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: WTF?

        >"And when the figures are down further in 6 months time they can still blame Windows 10."

        ...and proclaim that "everyone's waiting for WindowsTM 11. Honest. You can trust us - we're GartnerTM"

    5. DougS Silver badge

      Gartner != logic

      When PC shipments first started declining in 2012 they blamed it on people waiting for Windows 8. Then when they continued to fall they blamed it on negative publicity for Windows 8. Then they came up with a few other reasons, now they think people are waiting for Windows 10?

      Man, that's one hell of a lot of pent up demand to account for 3 1/2 years of falling sales! Better rush out and buy stock in Intel, Microsoft, Dell and HP!

  3. Grikath
    WTF?

    Can one tell me...

    How to apply for an analyst job at Gartner?

    Getting paid for stating the obvious for exactly the wrong reasons seems like a good job out of the sun ( and reality) to me.

  4. Mikel

    Gartner Prognostication

    >Gartner's blaming Windows 10 for the slowdown: the firm reckons buyers are holding on to their cash before the OS drops, in order to buy machines with Microsoft's new baby pre-installed.

    Guess again. People are finally giving up on the PC. The daily malware, monthly patch debacle, difficulty of use just are too much hassle now that they see easier, smoother alternatives. Putting up with that mess isn't worth it anymore just to save that 10 year old copy of Quicken.

    Besides, there are better ways to "upgrade" your PC. Attach a 4K TV as a display, swap out the HDD for a SSD instead and you get many times the bang for the buck.

    1. Vector

      Re: Gartner Prognostication

      "People are finally giving up on the PC."

      I don't know that they're giving up exactly. More like they just don't need to get a new machine. We spent years chasing after more power, but now we've reached the point where the vast majority of users have more than enough power to do everything they want to do, so there's just no incentive to go shopping for a new PC. Besides, those computer things sit at home for the most part, so it's hard to constantly throw your extravagance in your friends' faces. That's why everyone likes smartphones these days!

    2. Ken Hagan Gold badge

      Re: Guess again.

      Actually, you *can* blame Windows 10 for that. For the last six months, anyone who wants to see has been able to look at what Win10 will be like. Apparently, the experience has been enough to convince a few that Sinofsky's vandalism is irreparable and so they might as well buy that Apple machine and see how well it actually works for them.

  5. scudcraft

    Nah

    Advances in software used to drive new PC sales because your old one couldn't run the new and better stuff without making you want to kill it. Now everyone's developing mobile apps.

  6. Tezfair

    Prices gone up in Q2

    1st week of Jan, I was buying in Lenovo i3 @ £213, last few months they have been steady at £266+. Also, the range of models which come with downgrade rights to 7 are getting less.

    Might be related to the drop in Q2

    1. DougS Silver badge

      Re: Prices gone up in Q2

      If Q2 wasn't like the 14th consecutive quarter they've dropped you might be right.

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