Another New 'Feature'
I anticipate that the Edge 'Sharpener' will be available only in the premium versions.........
Microsoft relaunched Internet Explorer this week as "Edge" – and the software behemoth appears already prepared to accept that its super new browser may absolutely suck. At the same time as the new name was announced at its Build conference in San Francisco, the Redmond biz instructed brand protection company MarkMonitor to …
Just seen the benchmarks.
And now we know what sort of person pays attention to browser benchmarks.
Edge is faster than any other browser and it isn't even out of beta yet!
I suspect the amount of time saved over an entire lifetime by always using the fastest browser, over one of its slower competitors, is less than the time taken to download and install said browsers. And much less than the time taken to become accustomed to the new browser's UI and quirks.
Opportunity costs and cognitive load trump negligible processing-performance advantages.
>The sort of person that makes the decision what someone like you gets on their corporate desktop...
The Microsoft Certified Surface Expert, aka "Windows cleaner", makes no decisions ... those are made by Redmond on your behalf, so Microsoft Edge it will be.
Seriously, I don't trust those browser benchmarks, besides, depending on which benchmark, Chrome, Firefox, & Opera are faster ... cannot find the link, but it is on here somewhere.
Next we'll hear Windows is executing browser code in kernel land, to boost performance.
BTW, does Microsoft Edge come with IESHIMS.DLL ? There is completely unrelated software that depends on that DLL, most notably SAP JCo... not sure why ...
Yes. Better, I'd think, for large companies to take the high ground and refuse to play. The Streisand effect of throwing money at a zero-added-value partner like MarkMonitor to play whack-a-mole with domain names, and consequent mockery in the tech press, probably outweighs any PR benefit of blocking those domains in the first place.
The trolls and complainers will troll and complain.1 Stepping on a few weeds will not eradicate them from the garden.
1I have no interest in Microsoft Edge myself. I'll switch browsers when I absolutely have to, because there's very little advantage to doing so, and non-negligible opportunity cost. But by the same token I'm not going to waste time trying it just so I can complain about it.
There's several types of downvoters here, including the guerilla "downvote because I can" types.
As far as MS hate is concerned nothing or no-one can beat Eadon of the past though. All other comments/flames/manifestos against MS are but sputtering wind-blown candleflames against his thermic lance of hatred and despise. Boy.... that guy could rant.
Whether he was a deliberate troll or someone clearly off his meds, his posts did contain about all the anti-MS bias ever invented, and some original gripes to boot. Sometimes I think it's a shame Vulture Central had to muzzle him, because he was on occasion quite amusing, and could liven up an otherwise ...boring.. comment thread to no end.
So much has sucked from Microsoft since Windows 8 that inevitably the reporting and commentary will start from a baseline of "prove it doesn't suck".
To answer your complaint, I have been trying Spartan (it's still called that in the latest build) out and in my opinion it does suck. I find my previous comments on the preview apps to be still valid with respect to Spartan : it is flakey, sluggish to start and feature-deficient. I see no reason yet to even consider using it as an alternative to Firefox or even Internet Explorer.
One exception : the Reading view is pretty good and they seem to have worked out how to make it smoothly show multi-page articles as one.
So, slightly less suckage than last time, but there is still along way to go.
> Not a single person here has identified what exactly sucks about it which makes this story and you sorry asses the real SUCK story behind the ignorant HATE for AMS (anything Microsoft).
You really are clueless.- the article has nothing to do with whether Edge sucks. It is entirely about who has bought some domain names. Microsoft has, to prevent them being used by commentators - an attempt at limiting free speech perhaps.
and you sorry asses the real SUCK story behind the ignorant HATE for AMS (anything Microsoft).
Nah.. we're equal-opportunity haters. We hate Apple, Google, M$, Facebook, Twitter, ad nauseam ad infinitum ... and just about everything else. We're commentards and wear our tardness proudly.
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Pretty sure the part that sucks is them buying a bunch of "edgesucks.com" type domains (considering that's what the story was talking about). elReg doesn't just report on MS doing that, there have been numerous articles in the past about companies doing that.
But you want someone to identify something that sucks about it, fine: when you go to type in the address bar, you can't tell how it's going to respond. You can single, double, or triple click it never highlights. Sometimes backspace deletes the entire text, sometimes it it backspaces a single character, and it never gives any indicator as to what it's going to do.
If it does suck, it can hardly do any harm it only runs on Windows 10. Are Windows 8.1 Users getting it? Do they care?
I opened the 'theguardian.com' realised it was slow and clunky, compared to both Firefox and Chrome on my Windows 10 build 10061 machine. Closed it, not looked at it since.
Hated everything about IE (especially the fact I'm constantly been nagged by the latest IE11 Update that fails to install, repeatedly)
I hate Windows Update more, Windows Update even in 10, is the exactly same shit its been for eternity.
Windows 10's lipstick is starting to smudge. There is free, and there is unfinished, the rest of us have to pay for this shit. When will Enterprises come to their senses and ditch this crap for good, nearly everything is done in browser nowadays (or in the near future).
Another 10 Years of Licensing of Windows 10? - no thanks.
Well here's a non-story if there ever was one.
Breaking news; it's possible to string together any number of different words, with the last one being "sucks", and register it as a domain! And no-one can stop you!! Why hasn't Microsoft thought of this and only done two or three?!
Well here's a non-story if there ever was one.
On the contrary - it shows there's still money to be made in this market of DNS-registration-for-the-sake-of-registration. PR organizations with more budget than sense (or possibly operating under orders to protect some executive ego) are willing to fire a few bucks at intermediaries who will do nothing but pointlessly register a handful of names.
That's of some academic interest, and a useful reminder of just how many opportunities for legal scams the conjunction of technology and human nature afford us.
Edge doesn't suck though, and it's not IE. Microsoft is dropping every single feature that made IE IE, including ActiveX support, layout quirks, several vendor prefixes, VBScript, and lots, lots more. They're doing this as a standards obedience effort. http://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/05/06/a-break-from-the-past-part-2-saying-goodbye-to-activex-vbscript-attachevent/
Edge sucks and so does the new updated version of Firefox. Edge simply crashes my computer. FF has implemented some update that makes doing simple tasks, which used to be one step tasks, now force me to click 2 maybe 3 times to complete the same task. It's nearly impossible to comment in forum rooms because sites like Detroit News, Detroit Free Press, Slate.com does not recognized the new version (I am surprised that I can comment here). When I enter my username / password, nothing happens, and if I do happen to get into any of these rooms, it takes upward of 15 minutes of repeated entering my data to simply get in, which does not mean that I can comment. It's pointless. This all began with the updated OS system to WIN 10, Edge, and FF updates. So in fact, the culmination of all the updates makes doing simple tasks longer and aggravating. I had to dump Norton 360 because WIN 10 made it completely useless - as noted by many other users also - just Google and you'll find them. The only thing that remained the same in end-user ease was my Canon printer. It stayed the same, as hard it it is to believe, I had no problems with it. Now had I kept my old HP 6500 All-In-One printer? It would have been a nightmare to get that up and running again, as it had always been since buying it in 2009.
Edge is actually a very good app,
that's what it is, not a browser, but an app.
It does just about everything ok.
Here's why they suck though:
1- Immense amounts of RAM usage. No problem when you're having 8GB of RAM, but if you're still running the 32bit version of Win10, and less than 3 or 4GB, you may be running out of memory.
ON a regular browsing session, EDGE runs with about 1,5GB of RAM, and quickly can exceed 2,5GB, leaving ample little amounts left for OS and VRAM (In case your video memory is shared).
2- It regularly freezes, waiting for download data, which makes the browsing experience super slow.
3- It crashes often.
4- Extremely slow response on the recently downloaded list.
By the time an app runs from the Edge browser download list, you may have started it trice already, thinking perhaps your mouse was the culprit; not knowing amongst all the popups and windows notifications, which notification is from the first installation click, and which from the others.
5- Forceful BING search.
The edge app won't even allow you to search on Google.
Try looking for a few things in Bing. Obviously Bing being the inferior search engine, will not always come up with the desired website results. Hopping over to Google to do the same searches, may result in one or two searches from Google, before they stop the google website from functioning. (yes, you can only search a few times on Google).
All in all, it would be an ok browser app, if it only didn't use so much RAM, and used Google as main search engine.
Same happened a while back with Internet Explorer only allowing you to see Bing Maps, and not Google maps correctly.
For me, it's not a good browser, and got replaced by Chrome.
Like usual, you know how to FUCK things up really bad, and gain disfavor from everyone!
I hate Microsoft Edge too. If I used Social Media & I no longer do, I would circulate a petition for Microsoft customers who hate Microsoft Edge. I tried to complain to Microsoft, but on Microsoft Edge I have to sign into my Microsoft account that I'm already signed into before I can contact them, but for some reason Microsoft just does not let me sign in to complain & apparently Edge does not recognize that I'm signed into my Microsoft account. Bah, humbug. I wish I new how to use an OS other than Microsoft or Apple products. : (
I never used to know how to use anything but DOS.
Then Windows 3.1 came along, and I learned how to use that. Then Windows 95…
About that time I also came to use this funny OS called Red Hat Linux 4, and another called SCO OpenServer 5.
The technology genie is willing to grant you that wish, but it'll take more than rubbing a lamp to make it happen.
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