back to article Bigotry posted by your Facebook account? Use this, Mister UKIP MP wannabe: 'I was hacked'

A UK Independence Party candidate has claimed hackers broke into his Facebook account and posted racist and homophobic comments under his name. Alan Harris, who is standing in Oxford West and Abingdon in May's general election, cried foul after the blog Hope Not Hate posted screenshots of remarks made by the wannabe MP's …

  1. moiety

    I absolutely support his stance on bacon sandwiches. Is that racist? I actively encourage other people to swear off bacon sandwiches for religious or any other grounds...more for me. HOORAY!

    1. Mark 85 Silver badge

      I quite agree. A stand must be taken and this one is perfect.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Bacon Costs Too Damn Much Party

      1. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge
        Big Brother

        It's enough to get ISIS in your OINKMENT

        Whole crusades have been won by HAM BOMBARDMENT! And Yurope's "Common Agricultural Policy" is heavy into channelling taxpayer funds (current or future) to BIG HAM, the consumption of which will VERY SOON be made less appealing by the ham-fisted application of sin taxes ("to ensure continuing health of the populace", natch) to these fatty goods with artificially depressed prices. Coincidence? I THINK NOT. I CAN SMELL THE BACON!

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Stop talking about bacon sarnies, the better half has got me on a diet.

      1. Triggerfish

        Well that's even more for the rest of us.

        A big hand for the dieters, Jews and muslim everyone.

        1. Matt 21
          Joke

          Bad joke at that

          Two men have been in the desert for a week or two. They found a bit of water but no food. They're now reduced to crawling as they are so weak from lack of food. One says to the other

          "Look, look, there's a bush and it's growing bacon! We're saved."

          The other replies

          "Watch out mate it's a ham-bush."

          I'm here most days........

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  3. James 51 Silver badge

    If they managed to get into Facebook servers I guess they could have forged the timestamps. I am guessing the servers don't rely of the date on the device making the posts. Still if someone had managed that you'd think they'd have bigger fish to fry than a ukip wannabe.

    1. Dan Paul

      Not if these are....

      "News of the World" leftovers from the phone hacking. Just the thing for political hit men trying to create scandals where none exist.

      1. James 51 Silver badge

        Re: Not if these are....

        Well less like that as these posts are inherently public and not voice mail messages. If he did post the messages it would be better to say that his experiences have changed his views and he no longer agrees with what he said in the past.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Bigger fish to fry?

      Labour Councillor John Tanner seems to be leading a band of activists whose behaviour is perhaps not so very different from the Blackshirts. They do manage to get press coverage with their own brand of bigotry, so presumably they think their actions are justified.

      http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/11751906.More_than_300_people_sign_petition_against_Marine_Le_Pen_at_Oxford_Union/

      http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-31155755

      Now I'm sure I've seen a copy of a book by Voltaire somewhere...

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Try the Austin Powers Excuse

    How do I tell them that due to the unfreezing process, I have no inner monologue?

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Please could you add a NSFW tag to this? Thanks

    1. John Tserkezis

      "Please could you add a NSFW tag to this? Thanks"

      I'm sorry, are you offended that pigs spend all of their lives nude?

  6. x 7

    the only contentious thing about bacon sarnies is: which sauce do you use? I believe real men don't use sauce, but instead prefer English mustard. None of that crappy french nancy-boy mustard

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Mustard, are you mad? Ketchup or possibly brown sauce.

    2. jonathanb Silver badge

      Chorleywood white bread, lots of butter and bacon. Absolutely no sauce whatsoever.

  7. Simon Lynch
    Mushroom

    As you (and we) tippie toe round the libel laws

    What I find completely astonishing is the complete lack of awareness of some candidates. If you are pushing yourself into the public arena you would think making sure what's on the Internet about or connnected to them is as clean as possible. On balance is it probably a good thing for the world that the complete maniacs don't, as at least they can be weeded out.

    @keithpeter - 'a few skeletons' - more like 'Revenge of killer zombie skeletons III'. Not sure there is any way of dealing with the fact UKIP is stuffed the gunnals with nutters. You must be very happy that these evil hackers - with the preternatural foresight to both identify the future candidate and slide in their hack to remain undetected until it could be uncovered at a time of maximum political damage - have been uncovered and we must all hope they are brought to justice soon. I hope Mr. Harris has already contacted the Police and they are already making a request to Facebook for the account access history; then makes this fact public and shares the results with the world. If not, wouldn't the only logical conclusion be that he is soft on crime? I couldn't bear to think this poor victim of a smear campaign wasn't able to get justice. We must all hope he has taken action and doesn't leave any niggling doubts in the minds of anyone about the veracity of his statement, "I’m absolutely disgusted. My account has been hacked – again. You know what Facebook is like,"

    ;)

    1. BobRocket

      Re: As you (and we) tippie toe round the libel laws

      'Not sure there is any way of dealing with the fact UKIP is stuffed to the gunnals with nutters.'

      What, other than comparing the ratio of nutters in other parties for example.

      Whilst I might agree with the phrase 'stuffed to the gunnals with nutters' could apply to UKIP it doesn't preclude other (name(set(all)).party from also being 'stuffed to the gunnals with nutters'.

      In fact you could surmise that because UKIP is indeed 'stuffed to the gunnals with nutters' that all parties are similarly afflicted in their membership/followers.

      1. Simon Lynch

        Re: As you (and we) tippie toe round the libel laws

        My original comment was in response to a comment from another poster, which they then deleted by the looks of it (in shame?). My comment was meant humorously - obviously - as recycling 'swivel eyed loons' would have been a little lame. My use of a random anachronistic idiom should have been a pointer to the 'humour' element. Sorry if it passed you by (also sorry for any passerby reading this, I am now shooting for the most pretentious language I have used since I was in the education system and was meant to sound clever...)

        I would obviously not be able to support the fact that any party does not have 'nutters' within their supporters. Whichever definition of 'nutter' we take where at least one party has some, this will certainly be true in general for all parties. We obviously need to say that nutter≠mentally ill; common usage of the word means we can use it without fear (whereas saying UKIP has lots or retards/spastics/mongs in the membership would not be OK with me as the potential insult to the mentally handicapped would be unfair in my eyes).

        However BobRocket, you allude to the 'ratio' of 'nutters' to 'non-nutters' in your comment. Then try to draw the conclusion that all parties would have an equal ratio of 'nutters' stuffing their ''gunnals', Regardless of my opinions, it is an interesting question. If there were an agreed definition of 'nutter' with an 'nutter test', which party would have the highest proportion of nutters in the membership (NQ - Nutter Quotient)?

        Field-testing this would be hard (like, impossible). So the ordinary girl or guy in the street is reduced to anecdotal evidence. I guess we could look at the number of people UKIP vs other parties who have been chucked out from the party recently? Is there a public list anywhere? Without doing more research, we are left to guess at the NQ...

        All of the main parties have had problems with people (they always will), but the NQ score of the following stuff kind of stands out:

        - Tory MPs defecting to UKIP, like Reckless, "He said that, as a Tory, he could not keep a promise to "cut immigration while treating people fairly"". High NQ?

        - Tort MEP defecting to UKIP , one commented when caught going to a massage parlour, "MEPs are entitled to a private life. I work extremely hard and when I do occasionally have time off I enjoy a massage." High NQ?

        - 'Meet the Ukippers' - Mensa level NQ!

        - Labour supporter Natasha Bolter, turned PPC for UKIP claimed sexual harassment from UKIP General Secretary - a truly weird story - 178 NQ

        - The fact that UKIP has attracted far-right support (based on polling studies) and stuff like this: "the EDL leadership said: “All nationalist parties should stand aside in areas that Ukip have a good chance of winning. Let’s not split their vote. We might take a couple or a few hundred votes of them, we don’t come no where and we’ve cost UKIP the win because they come 50, 60 votes behind Labour.” Gulp NQ!

        Small things, but as the UKIP membership is very small (not talking about the people who may vote for it, but the members) it is pretty much sure there is a higher NQ for UKIP than the three mainstream parties. Analyzing the Scots and Welsh nationalists is a little tricky as they are mostly 'nutters' anyway, won't mention Northern Ireland as the NQ there on both sides meant 50 years of rubbish. The Greens probably have a high NQ, but at least they mean well to all people, so if they are not going to be in contention we should leave them alone to be mostly confused.

        I do have some time for the central argument of UKIP - that the EU isn't 'right'. Their approach to fixing it, by ignoring the problem and saying 'we leave' is not really that useful.

        Based on my careful analysis - as presented above - I can confidently say it is the party with the highest ratio of nutters to gunnels out of all of the relevant parties is UKIP.

        in he debate (not sure if the Monster Raving would have a higher NQ than UKIP if analysed properly... in the same way we can ignore the rest)

  8. Crazy Operations Guy Silver badge

    So how long was is account hacked?

    I'm counting 16 months between the 3 posts in the screenshot. How thick do you ave to be to not noticed it for that long? Especially since these are semi-public posts and not chat messages or anything like that...

  9. x 7

    I bet his daughter looks after his facebook account for him

  10. Tac Eht Xilef

    "I was hacked!"

    No, you were pissed. Different thing altogether...

  11. messele

    Since when was being a bigot a bad thing?

    An intolerance towards those who hold a different opinion or belief to your own?

    By that measure the Author is a blatant bigot.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Obama

    thought the Obama comment was satirical given the American attitude towards government secrecy and history of rendition, or does a British politician saying anything negative about US count as a resignation offence?

  13. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge
    Devil

    Le_Happy_Merchant.jpg

    Israel's secret nuclear program.

    About as secret as a wart on a witch's nose.

    The americans are still cleaning up that superfund site in Apollo, Pittsburgh. Incidentally.

  14. wolfetone Silver badge

    Asian Friends

    Doesn't translate to Muslim friends.

  15. GeekiestWoman

    black IS a color and gay is word meaning happy golucky

    not a synonym for sexual deviancy. As for bacon, one can never have too much bacon, providing you cook it crispy such as in a NuWave Cookery.

  16. The Axe

    " it's clear UKIP has a social media problem"

    Not just UKIP, all political parties. UKIP is not that special. Look at Labour - Jack Harman nee Dromey found to be favouriting porn posts just like Simon Danczuk more recently.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: " it's clear UKIP has a social media problem"

      News just in. People like porn.

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  18. Dan 55 Silver badge
    Coffee/keyboard

    All politicians should have 2FA enabled for social media

    Or would that be too inconvenient when they have these attacks of honesty from time-to-time?

    Icon shows something else apart from coffee that they're flinging at the keyboard when on Facebook.

  19. BobRocket

    Like all politicians

    He is a spineless twunk.

    What is wrong with standing up and saying 'yes, I posted that and I am right' and letting the electorate judge whether he is worthy of being their representative ?

    The perception is that politicians have to be so clean as to be sterile in opinions and actions, blandness is a virtue, not a one is worth voting for as they are all the same.

    Why are we shocked that (prospective) representatives live and behave just like everyone else. I would rather they just got out there and said what they believed rather than what they would like us to believe.

  20. Maryland, USA

    Did anyone 'like' his posts or respond to them?

    If so, the response's time stamp.

  21. gnasher729 Silver badge

    There's probably something I don't know, but why would selling poppies offend muslims?

    1. x 7

      "why would selling poppies offend muslims?"

      Because they think they're the ones who should be selling poppy products? Don't forget where opium originates

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