back to article Russia's Putin IT spend in reverse gear, fast

When the first dotcom bubble popped, the likes of EMC, Sun and Oracle didn't panic that the days of easy greenfield sales were over because the then-burgeoning economies of eastern Europe gave them new greenfields in which to romp. Russia, in particular, modernised quickly and became a decent-sized market for enterprise IT. …

  1. Ian Easson

    Russia is collapsing...

    Just as the Soviet Union before it collapsed, and for many of the same reasons.

    It will not be over in a day, a week, a month, or a year. But it will eventually be over.

    But this is an extremely dangerous process, not just for Russians but for all of us.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    This is not just sanctions and economic woes

    It is to some extent switching to internal and Chinese suppliers and solutions which were cheaper in the first place.

    Prior to the sanctions regime the western equipment could and did beat them on features and spec. Sanctions and planning for their potential escalation has changed the landscape. The industry there is expecting tit-for-tat responses which are explicitly designed to give local industries a kick. This was done for agriculture last year (though the effect was more to shift imports to Asia rather than helping indigenous agriculture). If there will be further sanctions IT will be one of the likely top subjects for counter-sanctions. As a result you get an environment where nobody in his sane mind will buy Eu or USA equipment as the parts and support for it may fall under an embargo or counter-sanctions or both in a few months.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Why can't they learn from the UK?

    News this morning is that the new UK farm subsidy payment system has been canned even though farmers were forced to use it, as it doesnt work. A mere £154million has been spent on it, but hey, that's technology isnt it?. That's the proper way to deliver givernment IT systems. Why can't the Russians understand this?

    1. cynic56

      Re: Why can't they learn from the UK?

      I think you will find it is the English farm subsidies system that collapsed. The Welsh system is apparently doing very well.

  4. Jimmy2Cows
    Pirate

    To paraphrase Red Dwarf:

    "Things to remember: Stop milk, pay papers, invade Crimea."

    Invasions ain't cheap you know. Something's gotta give, and what power-mad ex-KGB nutjob needs working IT anyway?

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It was inevitable that spending on US equipment would fall

    After all the whistle-blowing regarding spying and the continued aggressive posturing by the US, why would anyone expect Russia to continue buying equipment from the US and other western powers?

  6. All names Taken
    Paris Hilton

    UK? £154 million?

    Its nowt that - £154 million is peanuts.

    Potential example:

    (Previous) UK guvmint spent (that is gave) UK power generators £630 million to burn trees/wood in power stations. Motivation: UK green credentials were a bit tardy, burning wood is carbon neutral so massages UK carbon emissions (ommissions?) a little.

    Consequences: £630 hot millions in UK buy wood campaign sorta puts up the price of wood dinnit? Now you can't buy wood easily in UK as most of it is earmarked for burning in electricity generating power stations.

    What remains of UK coal industry has had its order books slashed because big customers are burning wood/trees and not coal. Miners are uneasy again?

    Businesses dependent on wood other than for burning it are facing increases in cost of product that makes them noncompetitive in todays market.

    Decisions taken in previous guvmint have taken a while to kick in but kick in they did.

    Or so I am lead to believe.

    1. Mark 85 Silver badge
      Facepalm

      Re: UK? £154 million? - won't someone think of the trees?

      Just wait a bit. Greenpeace will start filing lawsuits about all the trees being cut down. They've done this in the States quite successfully an have damaged the lumber industry heavily. I guess you're next...

      1. Alan Brown Silver badge

        Re: UK? £154 million? - won't someone think of the trees?

        The wood being burned in UK power stations is almost entirely sourced from canadian old-growth forests (using oil), chipped in canada (using oil), transported across canada and the atlantic to drax (using oil).

        The end result is that the supposedly "carbon neutral" woodburning at Drax is a spectacular greenwash event with virtually no reduction in overall CO2 generation.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    That makes sense

    Putin wants to restore the Soviet Union. What was the Soviet spending on IT?

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