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It's widely believed that watching more porn tends to be a bad thing for a man's performance in real-world boudoir athletics: but a new study by academics in Montreal suggests that in fact the reverse may be true. The study involved 280 Montreal men, who were asked how much porn they viewed in a week (with some apparently …

  1. king of foo

    hmmm...

    So, kinky doctor asks you to watch porn in a university, with giggling/jiggling 20 something's on campus, nearby, perhaps even having sat right here...

    Giggity...

    Are we sure this isn't "porn on steroids" for these guys?

  2. David Roberts Silver badge
    WTF?

    Chicken/egg?

    It says (I think) that men who report watching more porn also report feeling more horny.

    So - does watching more porn make you more horny?

    Or - does being more horny make you watch more porn?

    Only one of these seems to fit with the claimed study result.

  3. kbb
    Thumb Up

    Bravo!

    Whoever came up with that title image wins the Internet.

  4. adnim Silver badge
    Facepalm

    would that be

    the porn where the actors appear to make love, all tender gentle mutual like?

    Or the porn where the man viciously fucks a woman whom appears to to be suffering in pain more than receiving pleasure?

    Maybe it's the porn where the woman beats the man and tramples his testicles? Or the porn in which the man spanks the woman?

    Or could it simply be that the more one masturbates the longer one learns to last?

    Might the results also be skewed, know many men that are happy to admit that they cannot get a stiffie?

    More aroused at home than under a magnifying glass in a lab... who would of thought?

    There are a lot of question marks I obviously need an education.

    1. Warm Braw Silver badge

      Re: would that be

      Judging by your wideranging survey of the various types of porn available, it sounds like you've been educated to the point of exhaustion...

      1. adnim Silver badge
        Happy

        @Warm Re: would that be

        Working on it

        1. Warm Braw Silver badge

          Re: @Warm would that be

          In the circumstances, I hestitate to offer you a thumb up...

          Though I'm sure there's someone prepared to give you one.

    2. Vladimir Plouzhnikov

      Re: would that be @adnim

      Hmm, I was waiting for you to conclude by putting the child porn into this for good measure, cause that's a trump argument which no one dares to contest, right? Forgot the script a bit, maybe?

      But, since you brought these things up, anyway - the viciously fucked, the trampled testicles et al - let it be known to you that unless you like these things in real life you are not going to like them in porn, no matter how much you watch it.

      1. Craigness
        WTF?

        Re: would that be @adnim

        "unless you like these things in real life you are not going to like them in porn"

        6 people disagree!

        1. Vladimir Plouzhnikov

          Re: would that be @adnim

          Poor sods are in denial - in need of counseling or something :-)

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: would that be @adnim

            Some people like to watch war movies. Horror movies. Does that imply they like the depicted situations in real life? Is sex or erotica an exception? Just curious about your reasoning.

            1. Vladimir Plouzhnikov

              Re: would that be @adnim

              There are people who watch war movies to get a hard-on? Hmm, learn something new every day, I do...

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: would that be @adnim

                They watch the movies for entertainment. That doesn't necessarily mean for sexual gratification. Hence the word "like" to watch. Your usage.

                Yes, I know you are being deliberately obtuse. Yuk. Yuk.

                1. Vladimir Plouzhnikov

                  Re: would that be @adnim

                  Yes, but porn is not watched for "entertainment" in the same sense as other movies/images. It has a specific purpose and it's not good for anything else other than, perhaps, academic studies.

                  So, if the purpose of porn is to excite people sexually and someone is excited watching violent porn - that can only mean that he is excited by sexual violence. A corollary - only those who like violence in sex would watch violent porn.

  5. Pete 2 Silver badge

    Data or hearsay?

    From the article:

    "were asked" ... "completed a "questionnaire that measures levels of sexual desire"" ... "rate their experience" ... "self-reported their level of sexual arousal"

    So basically not a single objective, quantifiable, piece of information in the whole performance.

    But, on balance can anyone substantiate the opposing view claim that "watching erotica makes men unable to respond sexually to ‘normal’ sexual situations".

    It would seem that we - or rather: the trick cyclists - are still at the myths and legends level of their subject and have a long way to go before anything that a scientist would recognise as repeatable, verifiable data would appear in any pieces of research.

    1. Dan 55 Silver badge

      Re: Data or hearsay?

      Indeed. Before letting the subjects watch porn videos or get it on at home they should collect data by strapping cables to them connected to machines that go ping. Shouldn't affect the results in any way.

      1. Pete 2 Silver badge

        Re: Data or hearsay?

        > they should collect data by strapping cables to them connected to machines that go ping

        And yet cosmologists and astrophysicists manage to collect volumes of science-standard quality data from other planets, stars and places they couldn't hope to visit (or attach wires to) by making observations and fitting them to their understanding and theoretical models - and then refining their knowledge and testing the predictions that result.

        Maybe psychologists (or is it psychiatrists? who knows - who cares? ) could learn a thing or two from watching proper science as it's done by those who know how.

        1. TitterYeNot

          Re: Data or hearsay?

          "Maybe psychologists (or is it psychiatrists? who knows - who cares? ) could learn a thing or two from watching proper science as it's done by those who know how."

          To be fair to trick cyclists (and this is coming from someone who shares your disdain for the psuedo-intellectual claptrap that they often come out with instead of real, scientifically deduced conclusions) psychology really is a fledgling science. They just don't have the tools to do the job yet i.e. technology that can monitor and process in real-time what is going on within a subject's brain at a synaptic level, and then present that data in a way that is comprehensible to a researcher and can be related to human behaviour. MRI is a start, but we're not there yet by a long shot.

          It makes me think of someone trying to do advanced microbiology research when the only tool they have at their disposal is a Van Leeuwenhoek microscope. But fair play for trying to advance our knowledge on the subject.

          And as to this:-

          "It's also suggested by some researchers that too much porn-goggling leads to erectile dysfunction when it's time for a man to do his duty with a real sexual partner. But apparently Prause couldn't stand that idea up, at all."

          May I be the first to say, with a big grin...Baboom Tisch!

          Though it has to be said, that after up to "an eyeball-glazing 25 hours" of porn watching, and presumably associated chicken choking, I'm surprised some of the subjects could even sit down, let alone pitch a tent...

      2. Teiwaz Silver badge

        Re: Data or hearsay?

        Yay, have an upvote for the 'machine that goes ping' reference.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Data or hearsay?

          I would have thought the machine would go "Ding DONG!"

    2. Corinne

      Re: Data or hearsay?

      Yep totally agree that asking the men if they were "better" is a pretty pathetic bit of research. Did anyone think to ask the partners of these men, for example?

      From personal experience & talking to many friends, men who watch lots of porn tend to have rather unrealistic ideas of what most women enjoy, and therefore are definitely not "better" in bed!

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Data or hearsay?

        It's psychology, this is the standard.

  6. Crisp Silver badge
    Boffin

    There's only so much you can tell from one study...

    I for one think that more research is needed!

    Lots more research!

  7. Tromos

    I would comment further on this if I had time to break off downloading training videos.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Any Judges...

    in that subset?

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    In the interests of science

    I need enough members of both sexes to make statistically valid before and after samples in a double-blind trial (ladies not told which men have been in training).

    Funding application winging its way to the research council.

  10. hi_robb

    So...

    Which wankers came up with this study...

  11. Tim Jenkins

    "Watching porn makes men BETTER in bed"

    - just not when there's someone else there?

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    > The first result of all this was to undermine the idea that ogling loads of super-strength smut desensitises a man and makes it hard for him to get turned on by just regular sex.

    This is all anecdotal of course but from talking to female friends the consensus is that pr0n potentially improves performance by functioning as an instruction manual of sorts. It can show the average uneducated gentleman where all the relevant bits are.

    Like this study though they were talking about vanilla pr0n; the potential to learn the wrong lessons from the stronger stuff is obviously fairly huge.

    Also, a reversed cowgirl? I see what you did there...

  13. Anomynus Coward

    makes men BETTER at watching porn

    "We found that the men who had watched more sex films at home were more aroused when they watched sex films in the lab”.

    I must admit I'm finding it hard... to understand how the reported conclusions follow from there.

  14. frank ly Silver badge
    Unhappy

    It's never my town ....

    .... and it's never me when they find people for these kinds of studies.

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    official baseline porn

    This one cracked me up ...

  16. x 7

    I find it hard to get a feel for this

  17. NormDP

    The dirty little secret about pornography is it is all about the woman being pleased and satisfied, not the man.

  18. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I'm only watching it for you, darling

    And in the interests of research, of course

  19. Yugguy

    Your title is WRONG

    "Watching porn makes men BETTER in bed, say trick-cyclists"

    Er no - reading your article it just makes them horny.

    Which is not exactly a shock.

  20. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge
    Devil

    Surely there's some related research that needs to be done. And is far more vital to society.

    Does watching lots of cookery shows on telly lead to improved cooking at home? Or is it giving people unrealistic expectations. Paricularly when they move off the basic vanilla stuff into the extreme food porn, by that filthmeister Heston Blumenthal?

    Personally I've been beating away for hours with Nigella, and it's not done me any harm...

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Actually, it's been done: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2015/03/18/393385977/do-tv-cooking-shows-make-us-fat

  21. herman Silver badge

    Wow, the next thing they'll find, is that it doesn't cause hairy hands either. What is the world coming to? Think of the children when you bust these myths.

  22. T. F. M. Reader Silver badge

    From the department of bleedin' obvious...

    ... men who are easily excited by "vanilla" pron watch more of it.

  23. Sebastian A

    Can someone clarify

    where the "trick-cyclists" term came from? I presume I missed an in-joke somewhere. Or it's rhyming slang for something I can't work out either.

    1. Intractable Potsherd Silver badge

      Re: Can someone clarify

      It is a term that means "psychiatrist", and seems to be sort of deliberate malapropism. Rearranging the syllables of one sort of gets you the other (oooooerr!), except for that pesky "l" - but then the person that came up with it was probably mad ...

  24. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Or perhaps...

    Or perhaps the study is telling us that men who watch porn 'all the time' could equally well get into it in the lab... while those who do not watch regularly at home tended to be more puritanical types who found the whole experience (especially given the lab setting) weird and off-putting and thus didn't get much turned-on?

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