back to article An NSA spy, a Fed and a sysadmin walk into a bar – that's Prez Obama's new cyber-security order

President Barack Obama has signed an executive order that will attempt to protect America's crucial computer networks by sharing knowhow between g-men and techies. The new order instructs federal agencies to set up a clearing house of real-time, up-to-the-minute information on what's menacing US infrastructure. Companies …

  1. Bob Dole (tm)

    Social engineering taken to a new level

    Give The NSA all your data and free reign on your systems and they'll let you know if you've been hacked.

    Sounds to me as if the prez is just making the NSAs job easier.

    1. Captain DaFt

      Re: Social engineering taken to a new level

      "Give The NSA all your data and free reign on your systems and they'll let you know if you've been hacked."

      Joe: "... So?"

      NSA: "What?"

      Joe: "Are my systems compromised?"

      NSA: "They are now, sucker!"

      1. JamesTQuirk

        Re: Social engineering taken to a new level

        Or maybe it's the only way they really can jump a Air-gap, by convincing people you are there to help ...

        5 1/4" - 3.5" FDD had a "write protect switch", I can't help but feel a small "dip switch" on side of a USB key, to cut "write" lines, to turn into Rom, would stop a lot of Infections, not for just a "air-gap" system, but all networks, as people could stop USB from being infected ...

        Patents on it, as these guys patent reinventing stolen wheels, probably ...

  2. Ole Juul

    Security by denial

    The new order instructs federal agencies to set up a clearing house of real-time, up-to-the-minute information on what's menacing US infrastructure.

    So, they will be collecting reports of how security is neglected, ignored, or assumed to be covered by insurance, instead of taking responsibility for the situation? Thought not.

  3. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    Sharing requires trust and that's in short supply at present. The first step is to rebuild it. Rebuilding trust is a lot harder than either building it in the first place or maintaining it.

    1. Robert Helpmann?? Silver badge
      Childcatcher

      Trust Issues

      Rights-warriors at the EFF are not impressed by politicians' efforts to push through security information sharing – for one thing, there already are ways for companies to swap stories.

      Actually, having a single clearing house for this makes more sense if your goal is to actually share information. However, as Doctor Syntax astutely points out, there is a lack of trust between businesses and governments (not only within the US) that is not likely to be relieved any time soon. Having separate silos for inter-business and government-business postings is probably the most likely to succeed for the time being.

  4. DougS Silver badge

    Leading the world into the 21st century

    Back when the rest of the world was in 2001, the US turned back the clock to 1984. So we're hitting the 21st century again two years from now!

  5. Mark 85 Silver badge

    Privacy Report?

    His order calls on the chief privacy officer of the US Department of Homeland Security to look into this troublesome thing (privacy, not the NSA) and report back in a year, so that's all right then.

    I'm tempted to be pessimistic but instead I'll apply to do the report as a contractor as follows:

    Day 1: Type up "Privacy... we're ok. We're not bothering anyone except <REDACTED> who should be snooped".

    Day2 through 364: Vacation!!!!!!!!!!!

    Day 365: Somberly and professionally deliver the report... in at least triplicate.

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  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "Luckily, technology gives us the tools to avoid these risks."

    Yet it's the same technology that is rapidly inflating those risks. Given that it's the negative use that is the most profitable, I don't think on balance that Apple or any others of their ilk should crow about their capabilities.

  8. Afernie

    Hello...

    My name is Mr. Fox. I'll be your henhouse security consultant for today. Please, can you tell what kind of latch you are utilising on your coop? I can then tell you if any other foxes are seeking to circumvent that device, I promise... <snigger>

  9. phil dude

    irony is lost....

    The Governments don't seem to recognise the irony of saying "we're here to help" when they cannot follow their own laws.

    It would be nice if the NSA et al were tasked with protecting us all by stopping the criminals from exploiting our need to communicate via the internet.

    Just a thought...

    P.

  10. Pitbull Byte

    ..and I quote "Obama said privacy needed to be protected."

    Protected from what? Existing?

  11. gsosbee

    Security of this nation...

    ...is compromised as long as the fbi/cia/nsa/police are on an unrestrained crime spree for show.

    For the defense in cases prosecuted by the fbi:

    GERAL SOSBEE, ATTORNEY, witness to the macabre culture and grossly unlawful & criminal practices of the fbi:

    https://ttu.academia.edu/geralsosbee

    gsosbee@gmail.com

    Not certified by the Texas Board of Legal Specialization

    e.g. fbi plants child porn on my smart phone

    http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v194/__show_article/_a000194-000598.htm

    fbi fraudulent attempts to plant my name at the scene of a crime:

    http://la.indymedia.org/news/2014/10/266415_comment.php

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