back to article Ukraine PM: Hacktivists? C'mon! Russian spies attacked Gov.DE

A pro-Russian group has claimed responsibility for attacks that floored German government websites on Wednesday, although Ukraine's PM is pointing the figure at Russia itself. ‪Hacktivists from CyberBerkut‬1 blockaded the websites of the Bundestag and Chancellor Merkel's office, demanding Berlin end support for the Ukrainian …

  1. LawAbidingCitizen

    Yeah, whatever

    Anyone with half a brain can't take Yatsenyuk (Nuland's "man") seriously. Same applies to the other extremist egg-heads currently running Ukraine.

    1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

      Re: Yeah, whatever

      As opposed to Yanukovich and his cronies before? Or Putin and his kleptocracy?

    2. Mark 85 Silver badge

      Re: Yeah, whatever

      Can you name one government that can be taken seriously? One that's not corrupt, not power mad, not greedy, not inefficient? I could go on with the "nots" but I won't as there are too many of them. I can't think of any government that I trust.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        @ Mark 85 Re: Yeah, whatever

        Frankly an efficient government would terrify me!

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Yeah, whatever

      Whovever downvoted this was not following the news.

      The man sees the long hand of the Kremlin in every shadow and blames the Kremlin for everything. He seriously needs some medication for his paranoya instead of getting extra aid. Further to this, giving someone that loon military aid is a recipe for disaster on par with arming the Iraq army and Syrian "rebels".

      The reality on the other hand is very simple. As Putin succinctly put it: "If we wanted it, our troops could put the Russian flag on top of Kiev parliament building in a fortnight". So if he id really use govt resources the website of the Bundestag would have been still offline today and offline for the foreseeable future.

      1. Charlie Clark Silver badge
        Mushroom

        Re: Yeah, whatever

        Whovever downvoted this was not following the news.

        And the 50 Kopek brigade joins El Reg…

        1. Vladimir Plouzhnikov

          Re: Yeah, whatever @Charlie

          Due to the recent fall in the rouble FX rate I have managed to negotiate a better fee - they now pay a whole rouble for that.

          But be it as it may, for the life of me, I cannot take a man with the face like Yats' seriously. He is a big PR fuck up for the US Government, if only they'd admit it...

          1. Charlie Clark Silver badge

            Re: Yeah, whatever @Charlie

            Ooh! a whole rouble. What does that buy you today? (What did it buy you yesterday? And will it buy you anything tomorrow?) ;-)

            No doubt the CIA is as busy in Ukraine as the FSB but I don't see Yatseniuk as their man; I think the success of his party in the parliamentary elections caught a lot of people by surprise.

            As for PR fuck ups: it's difficult to top giving the thugs in eastern Ukraine anti-aircraft missiles and letting them slip their FSB handlers log enough to shoot down a commercial plane full of Dutch passengers. That really gave carte blanche to CIA and the rest to arm Ukraine.

            Yes, Putin could send troops into Kiev any time but he could never hope to hold it. Who knows: the result of the misguided belligerence may even see the French aircraft carriers lease-loaned to Ukraine and stationed in Odessa…

            1. Vladimir Plouzhnikov

              Re: Yeah, whatever @Charlie

              That really gave carte blanche to CIA and the rest to arm Ukraine.

              I don't think anything like that has happened. The US has dropped the ball on their Middle Eastern front and, for now at least, added "fuck the Ukraine" to their "fuck the EU" doctrine.

              "Putin could send troops into Kiev any time but he could never hope to hold it."

              I would not be so sure about the latter. People in Kiev feel no more love towards the crooks that run them now than to those who used to do that before. They may well accept a Russian intervention if it's done quickly and bloodlessly. The Western Ukrainians probably won't but by then it will be too late.

              may even see the French aircraft carriers lease-loaned to Ukraine and stationed in Odessa…

              French. French?! Ain't going to happen.

              Anyway, if any do show up they will keep suffering from unfortunate accidents until they either burn, sink or sail back (and that presumes that the WW3 will not have started by then).

              Things like that are not a way out of this crisis.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Yeah, whatever

          hahahaha... "And the 50 Kopek brigade joins El Reg…"

          I do so love reading comments along the lines of "Only someone being /paid/ to hate tinfoil hats could possibly dislike mine"

          But no doubt I'm being paid to write this just to mess with you, so flame away.

  2. Ramazan

    http://cyber-berkut.org/en/

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Key pointing your figures !!!!

    Waving a 7 around can be mighty impressive :-)

  4. moiety

    "Assaults against German government websites are a daily occurrence."

    Assaults against all websites are a daily occurrence. It's like background radiation. Probably .gov websites attract a better class of hacker than the lot who are currently rattling my doorknobs though...I feel almost embarrassed for them.

  5. Mark 85 Silver badge

    What's the value of attacking websites? Especially governmental?

    I can see attacking a commercial site for any ID, financial, etc. data by crims. But other than bragging rights, what's the point of hitting a government website? Sure, it might disrupt some citizen's affairs such as applying for benefits... but they can always go to the local office if need be.

    1. moiety

      Re: What's the value of attacking websites? Especially governmental?

      You could maybe get enough info from the database to facilitate ID theft on a large-ish scale. Sticking it to The Man is always a popular pastime. Plus a common motivation seems to be because it's there.

    2. Crazy Operations Guy Silver badge

      Re: What's the value of attacking websites? Especially governmental?

      It is all bragging rights.

      Foreign relations aren't all that much different than a bunch of drunks fighting in a bar: they'll swear loyalty to other (I love you man...) and in the same breath make death threats (..but I'll fuckin' cut ya!) then follow up it up with boasts about their combat skills and assets (I can take you all on, I have a black belt in Jui-jit-su!)

  6. A_Melbourne

    CyberBerkut‬ is a Ukrainian opposition website. Yes, Yanukovich was elected to be president by the whole country, and he did not outlaw other political parties - unlike Yatsenyuk.

  7. Frumious Bandersnatch Silver badge

    "Norks taking the blame"?

    I think you'll find that this has a subtly different meaning from "Norks being blamed for ..."

    (and no, I couldn't be bothered with the corrections button)

    1. Robert Helpmann?? Silver badge
      Childcatcher

      Re: "Norks taking the blame"?

      Yes, but on the other hand, if we consider that any attribution of this nature made by one government about another is simple projection, I think it provides insight into who actually uses these techniques. Just sayin'...

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