It will have a START MENU!
And lots of flashy stuff that nobody will ever use, but MS want to convince us we that we need.
Microsoft says Windows Insider program members shouldn't be upset that no more Windows 10 Preview builds are coming this year, because the build that's expected to arrive in late January will be awesome – literally. According to a blog post by Microsoft engineering manager Gabe Aul, Redmond devs are so excited about that …
>Windows has had a start menu since 95. I think you mean it'll have a non full screen start menu so that
>even people with an IQ of 4 can tell it's a menu
Those people with an IQ of 4 is who Windows 8 was designed for - big fisher price tiles that even a baby with clumsy thumbs could push. It certainly wasn't designed for professionals or even competant amateurs.
Mine is a list, just that that list is displayed full screen with multiple columns. The old menu displayed columns too if you had too much crap in there. The old menu also used to generate a separate search window when you did a search, while the new one integrates search results from all available sources including the programs menu, but by any definition it's most definitely a menu.
Do people honestly use AWESOME, in upper case I might add, as an adjective for an OS ?
I would honestly prefer something like, "Enterprise class", or "Business strengthened", "Proven stablility", yes, they are boring but they actually mean something.
AWESOME is a very vague word that has about as much appeal as a blunt kitchen knife in an operating theatre. It's a word associated with beach bums and surfers named Brice....
Bring back the IT adjectives, they're boring but appropriate.
I have to disagree.
I love that they're using informal terms to describe their operating systems. This is not the same corporate design team that designed Windows 8, just for the sole purpose of making money. This is a brand new team filled with young, talented and passionate designers that actually are enthusiastic about making a really great operating system. I'm very excited about Windows 10, and if things keep going the way they are, I believe the final version will not only be WAY PAST awesome, but it will be much more affordable unlike previous releases. I'd say 50 bucks or less is a reasonable price for Windows 10.
Possibly part of Office 365 for Business?
Rumours vary, but seem to indicate that Windows 10 Core will be free, but you'll have to pay a subscription for additional features - think XBox video / music, Office 365 etc. on top and businesses will probably still have to licence Pro / Enterprise features, like domain membership, Bitlocker etc.
> will not only be WAY PAST awesome
Way past having some awe is being full awe.
> This is not the same corporate design team that designed Windows 8, just for the sole purpose of making money.
Windows 8 was designed to overcome the perception of Windows Phone. Consultants reported that WP was not selling because the UI was unfamiliar. Windows 8 was intended to make that UI the most familiar UI on the planet. Then users would _demand_ all their devices have that UI. So much for consultants.
> I'd say 50 bucks or less is a reasonable price for Windows 10.
Before Surface was released the usual clowns were predicting great _cheap_ tablets from Microsoft. The first gen devices only became cheap when MS wrote off nearly a billion dollars and put them in the bargain bin.
So much for the usual clowns' predictions.
"> will not only be WAY PAST awesome
Way past having some awe is being full awe."
Ooh, I see what you did there!
As it is Friday, have a beer.
As to cheap, Windows 8 is currently free on sub 10" tablets and free in the Windows 8 with Bing version.
"I'm very excited about Windows 10"
Excited? Do you mean when an OS can stay up for a year or more without breaking or degrading? Where you can choose and configure the interface that suits your way of working best and there are no surprises. It just does it job quietly and efficiently?
I get excited when I see a trapeze artist wobbling in the wind at 200 feet without a safety net. But I'm not sure I want an operating system to give me that sort of thrill.
Where I come from, tags in a code repository are generally in ALL CAPS. It's just a throwback to the days when EVERYTHING was. Not sure why it's still so widely observed in this particular environment, but my best guess would be "no-one can be bothered to change it".
It is the consumer market they wish to impress. Business is more often than not already locked in to a MS software infrastructure.
The word awesome, just like the words special, original, brilliant, great, unique and various other "shiny" words are what the average non critical media groomed consumer identify with.
"Do people honestly use AWESOME,"
Americans do far to often, but then they love hyperbole. I've no idea what word they'd use when something really was "awesome" in the actual sense of the word rather than just "quite good" or "I've drunk too many expressos and I'm talking rubbish" which is what it seems to mean over the other side of the pond. They'd probably just be standing doing a goldfish impression unable to think of a word that could trump it.
Actually thinking about it they'd probably just say "super awesome" or "awesome awesome" or some other juvenile sounding phrase.
Having used Windows 8 since release, I wouldn't want to go back to a tile-less world now. On the move, with my tablet, they are great. On the desktop I rarely see them - just like the Start Menu in Windows 7, it is only accessed when I use an application that isn't pinned to my task bar - which covers about 99% of my daily routine.
I will tell you what I expect from Windows 10: nothing.
I am not saying I expect it to be bad - I am saying I have no expectations. That way lies disappointment (and swearing).
That aside, while I am happy that the Microsoft devs are passionate and think that what they are building is great, excellent, amazing, and, yes, awesome, I think that having really enthusiastic devs and designers is not necessarily the best things for software.
Why? Because the more the devs enjoy their dog food, the less likely they are to accept that other users might prefer the chicken and liver and others still might prefer the beef stew.
Funny thing, though - the old Active Desktop was actually a reasonably good idea that had useful potential. Arguably the most innovative thing MS had ever done, in terms of UI & general-purpose utility of the desktop.
Implementation sucked, though, and coming right at the time that IE holes were being revealed at the rate of about one a second it was a security nightmare...
Yes, it could have been good but of course the most notable feature was the one where it changed your desktop into an black screen with an ugly warning.
The BEST thing about Active Desktop, however, was that you could turn it off completely. In fact, it started disabled. It was a feature that you could use if you wanted it and it made your life easier or you just liked it but if you didn't want it, nothing at all changed.
Of these 1.5 million (450K active) users how many have tried their real web log ons to any depth?
With the whole keyloging thing I assume any tech worth his salt is not going to access anything important or that will have the same credentials after the OS is shut down, so has there been a massive increase in fake facebook, gmail and other accounts? I realise anyone with half an idea will say they can keylog anyway but who will admit to having shared their gmail,twitter,flickr etc. passwords with MS?
Will this be better than OSX? Will this be better than (for instance) Cinnamon or Mint? No. It won't.
How far behind the competition will Windows 10 be? Very far. Very far indeed.
Will file copying and anything network-related be still laughably slow? Yes.
Will Linux performance on equivalent hardware still blow Windows out of the water? Yes.
Will Windows developers still be baffled by a plethora of incompatible and badly documented tools and technologies from Microsoft that randomly drift in and out of fashion and support for no good reason? Yes.
Will Windows 10 still be a Virus and Worm fest? Yes.
Will Windows 10 really be any better than Windows 7? No.
That's pretty much it. Anything else is verbiage.
"Will Windows 10 really be any better than Windows 7? No."
This is the main point. Windows 7 is the best operating system MS have *ever* produced. It's stable, comes with features I actually use, doesn't get in the way with features I don't use and doesn't hog memory and resources to an absurd level. It's copied a lot of features I use on Linux (windows snapping to the edge of screen, windows updates that don't get in the way *too* much, powershell is actually surprisingly good, start menu search works well). I really really don't see how Windows X can be any better at all.
The *only* reason that people will move from Windows 7 is that MS will stop supporting it (typical MS EoL bulls**t). That's it. I guarantee that whenever W7 stops being supported, the upgrade process will be more reluctant than that seen on XP. I only hope that the businesses that are being forced to W7 from XP (they sure as heck aren't going to W8!) have enough foresight to realise that MS are forcing a costly exercise on them every 5 years or so, whereas an equivalent shift to Linux would be a one-off costly exercise.
Thinking too much about what to call a branch name is wasted resources.
Just do it and move on.
Forget the 100+ hours thinking of ideas, discussing, voting for a shortlist, showing senior staff, discussing, voting, senior member changes his/her mind and starting the idea bashing again.
No idea how long MS takes and took with this one, but let's not make too much of a big deal over nothing eh?
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