Re: It's time to grow a pair
@ Rik Myslewski
"Hey, deniers — skeptics, doubters, whatever you want to call yourselves"
Last I checked these were labels used against anyone (absolutely anyone) who is not an extremist believer. On the vast scale of extremist believer all the way to extremist non-believer the vast majority of that scale is often branded with those words because the politically motivated priests of the new religion dont want to discuss or be questioned. And it has been very clear to see why. Funnily enough that does strongly point to that small extremist group to being the deniers (of science that is).
"climate change is real, global warming is the cause"
Cooking is real and oven warming is the cause!!!! I doubt you will find anyone particularly going to argue apart from pointing out that climate change is relative difference from its current state which is currently warming.
"Yes, it's a hell of a big problem, but one that can be overcome with guts, smarts, determination — and, yes, balls."
Did the religion suddenly move onto sacrifices (sacrifice your own nuts!)? It has promoted the monuments to the sky and ramping up energy costs to help people be greener (freeze to death) wasnt far from sacrificing to the gods of (which one is it?).
"If you think otherwise, you are quite simply and demonstrably wrong."
I did like this line. It truly takes a religion to claim superiority that all infidels (you calling us that yet?) are demonstrably wrong after a fair amount of your predictive religious texts have been demonstrated to be wrong. And as with religion the goal posts are always only just in sight. I would have a little more faith in your 'science' if when a prediction fell on its face the people would own up to it and accept their theory was wrong (feel free to go back to the drawing board etc, as in science) instead of saying 'yes our prediction was wrong, but we are absolutely right and it didnt work because the goblins are hiding somewhere' (*may not have said goblins. Possibly minions of Beelzebub).
"Don't be dupes. Don't be ditherers. Don't be suckers. We've got work to do."
Take your own advice please for the sake of the people around you. If you dont follow what I mean just picture the nutters (assuming you have seen them, they are nuts) who stand on the street with home made signs or a loud speaker and sometimes their groupies who shout about our end and come to the saviour etc. And like the others who walk up the hill waiting for the UFO or the lord or whatever I will be with most of the people. At the bottom of the hill in my nice warm home watching you walk back down in the morning.
"Being skeptical doesn't mean being correct"
This statement was gonna come back to bite. Being certain doesnt mean being correct. Being sceptical is to be inquisitive and can still be wrong but is in fact the driver of all understanding as a part of inquisitive nature (science).
"Science is self-correcting, this implies that some of the peer reviewed, journal published, widely accepted consensus science is actually wrong"
Brought to you from the group who already have a conclusion before having the results and people who dont try to prove the assumption dont fit in with such a group. Still doesnt make their huge and amusing mistakes (dumb predictions based on almost nothing) correct even if they have their consensus. As an example I ask you to walk into any faith building and see what the consensus is and of course they will exclude the daft opinions of those who would be sceptic which is everyone else not of that exclusive version of belief.
"There's no "STFU" involved here, sir or madam, just a request for contradictory evidence."
And so god is real because YOU have no contradictory evidence (BOOM). And because you cannot disprove the noodle'y godness you believe in the tiny teapot orbiting the sun, the flying spaghetti monster and the invisible pink unicorn. Well done you. My first requirement is to prove the opinion which is not done by ignoring reality in favour of models or selectively choosing the science that fits your belief and insulting the others. And of course being proven wrong scientifically over and over doesnt help their credibility either.
MMCC, AGW or whatever acronym you now believe in may or may not be real. I dont know but I wont assume someone has the answer because they have written texts and a loud voice. And your comment about 'environMentals' being an insult I refer you to the start of this comment where he may be responding to your insult of sceptics and doubters when you have yet to provide reason to be assumed right