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Just ahead of its annual I/O developer conference, Google has announced some changes to its Glass Explorer program. It's not clear who will reap the benefits, though. Most notably, Google announced via the Glass team's official Google+ page that future headsets will ship with 2GB of RAM, up from the 1GB they've been shipping …

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  1. Mitoo Bobsworth

    Glassholes

    I genuinely wonder how this handle is going to affect sales - it seems to be be an increasingly popular reference.

    1. DougS Silver badge

      Re: Glassholes

      You mean like how calling them Crapple and Samesung hurt their sales? Oh wait...

      1. Mitoo Bobsworth

        Re: Glassholes

        Crapple & Samesung refers to the product - Glasshole is a direct reference to the wearer. Thats the difference - the first two are derogatory references to products, the last a derogatory reference to a human being.

        1. corestore

          Re: Glassholes

          I don't see it as derogatory at all... it's typical British tongue in cheek wordplay.

          When I got Glass I blogged about being inducted into the 'Honourable Order of Glassholes'

          1. S4qFBxkFFg

            Re: Glassholes

            If British, shouldn't it be "Glarsehole"?

            1. Law

              Re: Glassholes

              Not down south - they'd still pronounce it "glarse" when spelt glass.

              Up here in the north nobody really cares, you can carry on with Glassholes. :)

              Personally I'd rather have the upcoming round watch from Motorola than the glass anyway, but since I no longer own an android phone that won't be happening. :(

            2. JDoubler

              Re: Glassholes

              Or german then it should be "arshhole" ;-)

          2. Breen Whitman

            Re: Glassholes

            "I don't see it as derogatory at all".

            But I want it to be. Glassholes are some of the most abhorrent people on this earth.

            It I was an employer I wouldnt employ a Glasshole. Unless I was in the Stockmarket biz or marketing. You know, those areas that produce nothing.

            1. corestore

              Re: Glassholes

              "But I want it to be. Glassholes are some of the most abhorrent people on this earth.

              It I was an employer I wouldnt employ a Glasshole. Unless I was in the Stockmarket biz or marketing. You know, those areas that produce nothing."

              Well I'm a fireman and I'm looking at ways to use the Glass display to show data from thermal imagers to both firefighters working inside, and Chiefs monitoring outside.

              You know, useful stuff.

              I may be a Glasshole, but with your attitude you resemble a manky armpit mate.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Glassholes

      To address the Glasshole issue, Google plan to add a large flashing sign that sits on top of the Google Glass wearers head with the word "****head".

      1. Stevie Silver badge

        Re: Glassholes

        So, asshats for glassholes then?

        Sounds like a plan.

    3. Mark 85 Silver badge

      Re: Glassholes

      I guess maybe "fanboi" is better than "glasshole"?

      You can call me Ray, you can call me Jay, but you doesnt have to call me Johnson ...

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Glassholes

      Cant wait till I see some twat wearing this on the train

      "OK Glass, book me a calendar appointment at the vd clinic and invite my wife"

      etc, and similar fun to be had...

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Another 15 mins of realtime porn storage. Useful.

    1. Timmay

      RAM != Storage

      1. Breen Whitman

        Memory *IS* ram. Ha!

        Oh dear.

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  3. Mikel

    battery?

    The battery on these things must be amazing.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Anybody else worried?

    Next step - retinal scans for login: Akin to fingerprint tracking. 50 Years ago NSA would be hardwiring into your phone now it is a case of just monitor from any remote location. Just curious that's all.

  5. Ken Hagan Gold badge
    Windows

    "only 682MB of free RAM after it boots the Android OS"

    So the OS to run a pair of glasses has a 300+MB footprint before it does anything useful. How depressing.

    Icon: (Actually not so...) old fart who can remember when 300MB was a large hard drive, used by an OS with a footprint two orders of magnitude smaller, which did essentially the same job.

    1. Timmay

      When the glasses are pretty much a fully-fledged computer on your face, 300MB isn't so depressing.

      Jesus, how much of an old fart do I feel when someone describing themselves as an "old fart" thinks 300MB was a large hard drive.

      Your 300MB hard drive computer with an OS taking up just 3MB; did it have a 5MP camera capable of 720P recording, 1.2GHz processor, Wifi, Bluetooth, gyroscope, accelerometer, magnetometer, ambient light sensor, proximity sensor, and all the drivers, stacks and APIs to support the above and more?

      1. RyokuMas Silver badge
        Thumb Up

        "Jesus, how much of an old fart do I feel when someone describing themselves as an "old fart" thinks 300MB was a large hard drive."

        +1

        I remember when a 40 (yup, four-zero) meg HDD was considered huge... and a luxury.

        1. FartingHippo
          Windows

          When I were a lad we had to make do with scratching ones and zeros on the wall. We upgraded from a 16k wall to a 32k wall by moving to a larger house. Deleting old files took ages as we had to wait for the plaster to dry before we could write new ones.

          Kids today don't know they're born, etc.

          1. KirstarK

            I recall 256 bit yes bit memory upgrade modules.

            home solder kits for zx80's

            seperate co-processors

            sip memory modules

            upgrading you PC memory from 512kb to 640kb

            1. Admiral Grace Hopper
              Windows

              ... and when upgrading your mainframe from 256MB to 512MB main store was a weekend job with a £7.7 million price tag.

              1. Ken Hagan Gold badge

                "... and when upgrading your mainframe from 256MB to 512MB main store was a weekend job with a £7.7 million price tag."

                That's got to be a typo. You meant KB, surely. If we're going back far enough to call it a "main store" then it surely wasn't more than 1 meg.

            2. Steve Evans

              Upgrading your memory from 512KB to 640KB? Luxury!

              I remember installing the 16K ram upgrade in my BBC Micro!

              1. Pristine Audio

                Wobbly ZX81 16k RAM packs! Used to sit the computer on a book so the RAM pack would dangle over the edge and not get knocked. Happy hours typing in machine code from Your Sinclair only to get a single digit wrong and crash the whole thing. Them were't days....

              2. Esme

                Looxury!

                When I were a lass, we 'ad but 1.4K of RAM t'program oor PC1211's with! In BASIC!

                .. granted, that's better than t'64-bit wall t'oother poor bugger aboove had t'play with, but..

            3. Nick Ryan Silver badge

              sip memory modules

              Wow, I had managed to entirely block sip memory modules out of my memory. A quick look at pictures of them again brings it all back...

              1. lampbus

                Oh yes, reminded me too - way back when I upgraded my brothers PC motherboard...needed to make some veroboard adapters for the SIP > SIL sockets. One edge of the Vero strips sat in the SIL socket carefully crafted ends to fit the clips, soldered a row of DIP pcb sockets (cut in half to make SIL) to the other edge sort of surface mount for compactness....

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          >>>> I remember when a 40 (yup, four-zero) meg HDD was considered huge... and a luxury.

          When I ordered my first pc I paid for a 20 meg hdd but it arrived with a 30 meg.

          I remember thinking "this is great, but it's pointless as no one will ever need so much space".

          I guess that's my "640k" moment..

          1. James Loughner
            Windows

            Still have a 64K Altair in the basement LOL

            Also a 30 meg Corvus hard driver that I bought for $7K It hung off an Apple II and you could connect 30-40 Apple II to it and the back up was to Video tape.

            You young guys just don't know :)

      2. Ken Hagan Gold badge

        "Your 300MB hard drive computer with an OS taking up just 3MB; did it have a 5MP camera capable of 720P recording, 1.2GHz processor, Wifi, Bluetooth, gyroscope, accelerometer, magnetometer, ambient light sensor, proximity sensor, and all the drivers, stacks and APIs to support the above and more?"

        "5MP camera capable of 720P recording" -- Capable of all that, but apparently not capable of being switching off when you aren't using it. (That's unless you count the 21st century definition of "off", as in "still on but not talking to you".)

        "Wifi, Bluetooth" -- ooh network drivers. Yes, we had those back then.

        "gyroscope, accelerometer, magnetometer, ambient light sensor, proximity sensor" -- external devices don't cost footprint per se and these ones only deliver handfuls of bytes of data in response to the moral equivalent of serial commands. We had those back then as well.

        "1.2GHz processor" -- riiight, coz the extra Hertz consume RAM, don't they...er.

        "and all the drivers, stacks and APIs to support the above" -- for the above, that would probably be just a few internal busses and an IP stack, and I think the answer was probably again "yes". You might quibble with the speed of the internal bus, but like I said earlier, sheer Hertz don't actually cost RAM.

        "and more" -- well the "more" is pretty much what I was complaining about. The fifty background daemons started by default, each pre-allocating gobs of page-locked RAM so that in the unlikely event that they are used they can be sure of starting up Reeaally Fast, the whole system written in some many-layered bloat-fest of HTML-on-bytecodes-on-JITted-something-or-other, ...

        Let's face it. This is 300MB because it was cheaper for Google to up the hardware spec than it would have been to trim down the stock Android that they run on it. I accept the economics, but still reckon it smacks of laziness and a lack of professional pride on the part of the developers.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      More worrying is that given an entire OS only needs 300MB, that the application developers can't fit their offerings into twice as much!

      TBH I think all developers should be given half the spec of the devices delivered to end users. That way they might cut down on the bloat!

      (And before I catch too much flame, I'm a developer!).

    3. Marcelo Rodrigues

      ""only 682MB of free RAM after it boots the Android OS"

      So the OS to run a pair of glasses has a 300+MB footprint before it does anything useful. How depressing."

      Don't forget the memory to the graphics card. It is shared, and subtracted from the 1GiB.

      Same thing with mobiles. They tout the memory - but forget to say it is shared with the graphics card.

  6. Valeyard

    My biggest reservation

    Privacy etc has surely been covered to death elsewhere

    But there's no way i'd be able to say "ok glass, ..." like i'm some indecisive prick who can't think ahead of his command and is deferring to glass by posting something into his audio suggestion box

    I hope the command is redefinable

    "ok glass... this may sound weird but hear me out and this just might work..."

    1. CaptainBanjax

      Re: My biggest reservation

      I hope "ok glass" is redefinable as well...

      Top of my list would be...

      1. So yeah...

      2. Go go gadget...

      3. By the power of greyskull...

      Anyone got any others?

      1. Valeyard

        Re: My biggest reservation

        haha, "so yeah.." is along the same vein!

        Go Go Gadget definitely has my vote

        1. VinceH Silver badge

          Re: My biggest reservation

          Engage!

          Hasta la vista, baby!

          Don't panic!

          Open the pod bay doors, HAL.

          I'll be back. (This works because it's both an instruction to activate Google Glass, and an advisory to whoever you're with that you'll be distracted for a moment by what you're looking at on the display).

          But, perhaps most suitable, and again serving as both an instruction to Glass and an advisory to people you're with: Smile, you're on candid camera!

          Edit: Or a slightly misquoted Denis Leary songtitle: I'm a glasshole!

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: My biggest reservation

            "Hello Computer"

      2. RyokuMas Silver badge
        Devil

        Re: My biggest reservation

        "Next character to die on Game of Thrones is..."

        1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

          Re: My biggest reservation

          I'm liking 'go-go gadget' and 'by the power of greyskull' as options. And I guess other TV references like HAL, Slave, Zen and KITT should be options too. Then you can pick your favourite.

          I also quite like, 'Brain Butler'. As in, "Brain Butler, where can I get a G&T?" Or, "Brain Butler photograph these oiks and email to the police."

          Then, rather than pairing them to a phone, we could have a drone to do our bidding. So that instead of giving me directions to the nearest pub, my quadrocopter can fly off to the pub for me, purchase my G&T with pay-by-bonk, and bring it back to my outstretched hand.

          As drone technology improves I should be able to simultaneously watch an outdoor concert, napalm the band on the second stage who's overloud bass is distracting me, while having a picnic delivered to me, instead of having to queue and pay for the overpriced food/drink available inside the venue.

      3. thomas k.

        Re: My biggest reservation

        "Make it so."

      4. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: My biggest reservation

        Obvious choices:

        "God..." and

        "Satan..."

        A voice in my head says that "Allah" is definitely anathema.

      5. Esme

        Re: My biggest reservation

        'Fyunchclick!' (from 'The Mote in God's Eye' by Niven and Pournelle)

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: My biggest reservation

          Universal recording activation command should be

          Oops

          But only if it includes the ability to delete recording assuming one survives the moment. Other expletives are available. Just beware apps that link iWatch biomonitors to Glassholes, especially if sponsored by insurance companies or accident lawyers.

    2. Trigonoceps occipitalis

      Re: My biggest reservation

      "Holly"

      1. Ken Hagan Gold badge

        Re: My biggest reservation

        "Holly"

        Zen...

        Orac...

        Slave...

        Twiki...

        Robbie...? OK, scratch the last one. We're not actually that short of names.

    3. Mike Moyle Silver badge

      Re: My biggest reservation

      C'mon... This is Google...!

      The prompt should be "Hail Hydra!"

  7. Gotno iShit Wantno iShit

    Is the voice recognition carried out on the device or at the mothership?

  8. thomaskwscott

    Why so much hardware?

    I love the idea of Glass but have never understood why it needs so much hardware. It's never going to replace the phone (at least not in it's current iteration) so it's essentially a remote screen, mic, speakers and camera. It should really be trying to hand the meaty stuff off to the phone it is inevitably connected to.

    That way we can have long battery life, simple APIs and possibly a great reduction in cost too.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    When you say "OK Glass, show the viewfinder"

    Seriously? Oh, please, just shoot me now.

    1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge
      Devil

      Re: When you say "OK Glass, show the viewfinder"

      Surely, "OK Glass, show the cross-hairs", would be far better?

      1. Toltec

        Re: When you say "OK Glass, show the viewfinder"

        "Targeting on"

        "Combat mode ready"

        or for the modern generation

        "I want an un-selfie"

  10. Trevor 3

    Voice control idea:

    "Stop hitting me officer" activates video camera

    "Whats that moron doing?" activates video camera

    "hahaha, check this guy out" activates video camera

  11. AndyS

    Voice commands

    Is the only way to activate and interface with these things by voice command? In which case, I can't see how they will ever displace a phone, as they will be effectively useless in:

    Quiet offices

    Restaurants

    Trains

    Buses

    Any quiet public spaces

    Theatres

    Presentations

    Churches/Mosques etc

    Lifts

    Toilets

    Anywhere it is not socially acceptable to randomly start talking, without making people around you feel very uncomfortable, I can't see how these will work.

    1. TopOnePercent Silver badge

      Re: Voice commands

      They'll work the same way trendy hipster beards work, or clothes two sizes too small, or hair product etc etc.... Some people will just not acknowledge how stuipid they look until years after the fact.

    2. Mark 85 Silver badge

      Re: Voice commands

      Since the less well-mannered use their cellphones in these places anyway, why would you think they would Glass any different? Will the RAM upgrade increase their intelligence or situational awareness?

      I went to a funeral recently and the minister had to ask everyone to turn off their cellphones. A couple of idiots were texting away and ignored him. Meh....

  12. jnffarrell1

    Take up the fight against Polaroid. It's greener than re-enacting Gettysburg

    It's never too late to reenact the the last war. Fifteen years from now (like Star Trek lovers), bar owners and others will hold Glasshole reenactments in dark places: saving electricity and protecting their quaint point of view from public exposure.

  13. Stevie Silver badge

    Bah!

    Early adopters are entitled to free upgrades?

    Neat! I'll dig out my old XP PC and get Dell to swap it for a new one then.

    Pity the firm that made my old Win95 one went nails-up.

    Hey! I have a Mk1 Raspberry Pi! Time for free double memory!

    It's a veritable new-tech-for-naff bonanza! Yazoo!

  14. amanfromearth
    Coat

    So, you are saying

    That they have improved specs..

    OK, I'll get me coat..

  15. JDoubler

    So they can store more spyware on those shits now.

    Well, i am not going to spy for the NSA.... and dont dare to look at me with those shits because i will sue you till in your grave!

  16. Robert E A Harvey

    Optimist

    Presumably the glass will now be half full?

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