'Last EVER REAL Nokia' phone
I think that happened quite some time ago.
What may be Nokia’s last ever phone – the Lumia 929 – has broken cover, but you won’t be able to buy it here in Blighty. Nokia has a full range of kit ready for 2014, but with the transfer of its phones unit to Microsoft, it’s anyone’s guess as to how the devices will be branded. Which means Nokia’s exclusive-to-Verizon 929 …
Dude that's starting to get really tired. Disaster how? Whatever your feelings towards Microsoft and their OS, be grateful that there's a third (albeit small) credible player in this market. Keeps them all honest, and drives innovation. Your own choice of device/OS can only but benefit.
I would hope that the presence of Microsoft in the phone OS market would drive its competitors to greater innovation. It'd be nice to think that Microsoft/Nokia are also innovating, in order to increase their desirability among consumers (pointless sniping aside, I'd expect that they are).
Innovation is a personal thing, but comparing them to say apple, moving from a grid of small icons (my palm III had the same launcher as iOS) to resizable icons showing live data is different from the rest of the phones out there...
Wireless charging and NFC, Optical Image stabilisation, colourful polycarbonate bodies, ceramic buttons, bluetooth file transfers, internet tethering as standard, HD displays, Wide range HMR microphones.......
innovation is surely lacking from microsoft/Nokia...
@JahBless I said innovation. I didn't say from whom. I know I didn't, because I was there when I didn't.
But hey, if you want to talk about innovation from Microsoft and Nokia, try a 41Mbp camera. Or an outlier like the magnetic keyboard catch on the Surface. More mainstream? OneNote + pen.
Compared to a *barometer*? Or a finger print reader. Yeah. That's REAL innovation, innit.
Let's look at facts.
WP has seen a decrease in market share. Guess what, so did Symbian.
Symbian went from 100 million devices to 134 million from 2008 to 2009. The last full quarter before the burning platform memo, more Symbian handsets were sold compared to a year ago. Look at a year basis, WP does not even equal what Symbian sold per quarter. The net increase year over year saw with Symbian (34 million) is more than what WP sales in a year. So, side by side, Symbian has a larger net increase year over year than total devices sold by WP. So WP would never have gone past Symbian if it wasn't for the burning platform memo; even then Symbian still sold more for over a year than WP.
So when Microsoft touts fastest growing, you have to look at what was used. Microsoft didn't go with market share as that has decreased. They used their own previous sales numbers. Well, if I sold one phone last quarter and then 5 phones this quarter, that was a 500% increase. The fact is, only six phones were sold. So statistics can be used to hide the facts.
I still have an N9 and will keep it alongside my 6310i. I fail to see why the Microsoft with Lumia was a disaster, as it's gaining more and more ground. Winphone is getting close to Apple in Europe, because people are starting to find out they're actually pretty damn good devices.
I hate Apple and like to flame them, but i'm not so jaded as to think all their products are crap, so how about admitting to the fact that winphone and Nokia is a good combo and will probably grow a lot more.
Right, they haven't. But doesn't that raise the question of: If Nokia isn't maning the R&D ship, who the hell is? Someone has to be making the calls, but for whom? If neither is currently doing any R&D at all, when in the hell is there going to be another product...2020? Now if one of them is, who's bottom line is that affecting, and is it affected before or after the deal goes through?
Yes, the handset division is being sold, the rest of Nokia stays with Nokia. Microsoft is going to license the name for several years and for 12 to 18 months after the deal closes, Nokia cannot enter the phone business. After that period, they can sell a phone and essentially use the Nokia name.
you do know there is the following coming...
3 asha phones
and a 8" tablet that is basically finalised
AND whatever is underway now is the phones for next year?
So it would be fair to say there will be about 20 more devices of Nokias old D&S.
( the false assumption here is MS will change the setup)
Elop and a couple of others go to US but the design team stays where they are doing what they are doing now but with greater access to integration that will be on ALL WP* phones.
( Oh no this is bad -lol)
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