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It will not come as explosive news to most sensible travellers, but US airline passengers have been warned to leave their grenades at home when getting on a flight. The US Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has issued a stern warning to anyone thinking of bringing their favourite handheld bomb on holiday. In a blog …

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  1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

    In checked baggage

    You can carry guns/ammunition in checked baggage but not a joke "take a number" sign shaped like a grenade?

    In fact it's become standard practice among film-makers and photographers to pack a gun with heir expensive equipment and declare it - so that it gets special treatment, instead of being stolen by the baggage handlers or TSA.

    Houston airport has a huge steel bar surrounded special luggage room just for lugagge with guns

    1. Number6

      Re: In checked baggage

      In fact it's become standard practice among film-makers and photographers to pack a gun with heir expensive equipment and declare it - so that it gets special treatment, instead of being stolen by the baggage handlers or TSA.

      Now that's the best argument I've heard for carrying a gun. Probably not worth the hassle for standard checked luggage though.

    2. LarsG

      Re: In checked baggage

      M7 bayonet, check

      M67 fragmentation grenade, check

      M84 stun grenade, check

      M11 pistol, check

      P11 underwater pistol, check

      M16A4, check

      M590 shotgun, check

      M72/A2, check

      M19 mine, check

      Please proceed to the boarding gate and thank you for flying American..............

      The M1A1 Abrams will have to go in the hold Sir, enjoy your flight.

  2. Rusty 1
    WTF?

    First knives and liquids, now grenades.

    Next it'll be fully automatic assault rifles with bayonets. Where will this madness end?

    1. Don Jefe

      Indeed, it is exactly this kind of goverment overreach that is strangling the airlines to death. You never known who might be onboard with you and with all these bullshit rules you just can't be safe without weapons. We bought our own plane three years ago. It's just a turboprop but is fitted out very nicely. My pilot doesn't care what I bring on board. I'd suggest you look into a similar arrangement for yourself.

      1. Def Silver badge

        Re: We bought our own plane three years ago

        If you don't mind me asking, what did that set you back, and what does it cost you back on a monthly basis to maintain and keep?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: We bought our own plane three years ago

          Microsoft Flight Simulator just lacks the hijack and check in doesn't it.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: We bought our own plane three years ago

            You have to enter the license code first.

      2. ecofeco Silver badge
        Windows

        "I'd suggest you look into a similar arrangement for yourself."

        I'll have my man servant look into that right away.

    2. Def Silver badge

      Re; liquids

      The ban on liquids is being phased out in the EU, and should be completely lifted by January 2016.

      http://ec.europa.eu/transport/modes/air/security/aviation-security-policy/lags_en.htm

      In my own personal experiences, airport security is fairly random at the best of times. A couple of examples:

      Many many years ago (post Lockerbie, pre 9/11) my girlfriend at the time was returning to the US through Heathrow (she had been living in the UK studying French Patisserie for a year). Going through the security controls, the guy on the x-ray machine told one of his colleagues to check her bag - but neglected to tell him what to check for. The second guy opened it up, rummaged through a few layers of clothes and declared everything was fine. My girlfriend thought nothing more of it. Until she got home and unpacked. Her roll of rather large chef's knives were stuck in the bottom of her carry-on bag.

      And secondly, about nine months after 9/11, I was returning back to the UK from Bergamo (very outer Milan) for a weekend with a backpack toting, role-playing guy off to some whatever-it-is-those-folks-go-to in front of me. The backpack was full of chain mail, assorted accessories, and a couple of very large swords sticking out the top. I swear the security guys didn't even bat an eye lid when he went through.

      1. deadlockvictim Silver badge

        SCSI cables

        I brought all of my SCSI cables (old and new) in hand-luggage in 2004 or so and the people at security didn't know what to make of them. Computer equipment, I said. I had to take them out of my suitcase because it was already too heavy. It must have looked very impressive on the x-ray machine.

        Still, they let me through and I am thankful for that.

        1. Steve the Cynic

          Re: SCSI cables

          "I brought all of my SCSI cables (old and new) in hand-luggage in 2004"

          I did something like that in 1996 coming back from a conference in Anchorage. At Anchorage I transferred my (company) laptop from my carry-on bag to my briefcase to make it easier to get at, but left the rest of the case and accessories in the other bag. (This was a time when you could bring a bag AND a briefcase on a flight...)

          So I got to Seattle to change onto the flight to London, and the X-ray guy there asked to look in my bag because he could see what looked like coils of wire... Oh (Finnish words). I told (and showed) him what was what (power adapter and its cables for the laptop, duh), and he was suddenly much happier. We had a brief laugh about it and off I went.

          Or when my dad went through Shannon in southern Ireland during the 1980s, and had to tell the security guy that yes he had coils of wire and a crimping tool...

      2. Mystic Megabyte Silver badge

        Re: Re; liquids

        Ah! You forgot that that was not the swords you were looking for.

        In a Jedi mind control sort of way.

        1. peter 45

          Re: Re; liquids

          Ha. You joke........but

          Several years ago I read a report from a passenger who smelt petrol. He traced it to the overhead locker where there was a leaking chainsaw.

          Apparently the chainsaw had been seen by the security personnel, but had been waved through because a chainsaw was not on the banned list!

      3. ElReg!comments!Pierre Silver badge

        Re: Re; liquids

        Meanwhile, last month my 10 cm (2 mm head) nail punch got a 1-way ticket to the trashcan. When asked, the bagcheck drone told me "it's metal, Mr". The thing costs 3 bucks so I did not pursue the matter further than pointing out that any one of the 5 pens in the same bag were more likely to be used as an improvised weapon (to which he just replied "yes, but this one is metal"... d'uh, so's my 15 cm aluminum-body mech pencil). If I was in the disposition to try and hijack a plane with my nailpunch, I'd just go and get a glass bottle of anything at the duty-free shop and use that instead. Or I could steal cutlery in any of the post-checkpoint restaurants. Whatev's.

        They must appear to serve a purpose, so they pick stuff at semi-random and trash it; at some point lighters were a no-no, but they must have faced enraged smokers so now lighters are OK. I can't really blame the guys, they serve no purpose other than blunting the unemployment stats, if they did not discard some thing or other from time to time to make people feel like they're protected, they would kill themselves. Of course they pick preferably cheap-looking stuff, so as not to cause lengthy heated arguments with the victim. Over the years I've never had anything of significant value discarded by them. A lot of cheap stuff, but nothing even remotely dangerous, mind. Nail clippers, that kind of stuff.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      I always found these restrictions crazy, they limit what you can take on, but the problem is you can buy a hell of a lot of things after getting past security, so if you really wanted a weapon of some kind on the plane there are plenty of resources to make one...

      I may be paranoid, but that does not mean they are not out to get me.....

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "but because the passenger was a soldier a white person"

    There, fixed that for you.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      What makes you think the soldier was white? That is a very racist comment, many non whites serve in the military so there is no need to think they were!

      Skin colour has nothing to do with profiling... its all about cultures, past travel and if you look shifty..

      That is why customs officers are so good at their job, they watch body language to find the people smuggling..

      1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

        Re: Skin colour has nothing to do with profiling

        Hmm, I'd like to think that that is true, but I'm having serious trouble not doubting it.

      2. Great Bu

        "customs officers are so good at their job, they watch body language to find the people smuggling.."

        It's true, I would find it very difficult to walk straight with 20 lbs. of crack up my backside....

      3. BrownishMonstr

        I can't tell if you are trolling or not? Whilst at college, those who studied Law, or something, went America and all brown-skinned men were randomly selected for the security checks. So either skin colour has something to do with profiling, or all middle-eastern looking people look shifty,

        ...its all about cultures...

        Wait, wouldn't that be offensive?

        But, of course, you are trolling, right?

  4. Steve K Silver badge

    WTF

    Isn't a soldier EXACTLY the sort of person to be aware of what a grenade can do, so to pack one in luggage is inexcusable...?

    How do you make a mistake and pack a grenade for a flight - I'm pretty sure the US military hand them out to their personnel when they get to the war?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: WTF

      Well I once traveled with a bag I had left a knife in the bottom, it got stuck in the folds, and it took me and the security guy 10 minutes to find the bloody thing, nearly missed my plane!

    2. Euripides Pants Silver badge
      Go

      Re: WTF

      "I'm pretty sure the US military hand them out to their personnel when they get to the war"

      You are mistaken, here in the USA soldiers have to provide their own hand grenades. Given that they are stocked in all convenience stores right next to the beer this is not a big issue.

    3. Don Jefe

      Re: WTF

      Hand grenades are extraordinarily stable devices. There is no reasonable chance of accidental detonation and certainly the soldier knew this or would never have put it in his bag in the first place. Hell, you can shoot the things and they won't explode and they are stored and shipped in crates at the munitions plant with nothing but cardboard 'egg carton' padding inside for protection.

      1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

        Re: Hand grenades are extraordinarily stable devices

        Agree totally. I am convinced that there is no chance for a hand grenade to go off unexpectedly under any circumstances that can happen in a place.

        If the reverse were true, you'd have no troop transports containing soldiers with hand grenades. Given the number of men that have been transported in full battle equipment over the years, if hand grenades had a tendancy to go off after a sudden jolt, I think we'd know about it.

    4. Robert Helpmann?? Silver badge
      Childcatcher

      Re: WTF

      How do you make a mistake and pack a grenade for a flight...?

      The make-a-mistake part was in quotes, which should give you a hint. There are rooms set aside in most major airports in the US for military personnel on travel. All that I have been in have amnesty boxes where such things can be gotten rid of, no questions asked. Keep in mind that many soldiers are quite young and apt to do foolish things when left to their own devices. They are sent to areas where activities such buying an AK-47 at an open air market are commonplace. They end up with trophies because they are cool. The mistake this soldier made was in not taking advantage of the amnesty box (and in getting caught as a follow-on). I am not going to comment on why that might have happened...

  5. Daniel B.
    Facepalm

    Oh dear

    They're talking about not carrying grenades, I'm OK with that. Yes, the TSA checklist does mention "no explosives" and stiff fines if you do try to sneak 'em aboard. (Though there's a good chance you'd be given the Menezes treatment if the grenade's on your carry-on!)

    But replicas? Shouldn't those show up as plastic and definitely not carrying explosive material? Really?

    1. MrPSB

      Re: Oh dear

      Ah, but what if it's a plastic grenade made of plastic explosives?

      BOOM! MIND BLOWN.

      1. Tom 13

        Re: plastic grenade made of plastic explosives?

        Those are supposed to be caught by the explosives detectors, not the metal detectors.

    2. ammabamma
      Happy

      Re: Oh dear

      > But replicas? Shouldn't those show

      > up as plastic and definitely not

      > carrying explosive material?

      Not necessarily. Most replica grenades are actually honest-to-god metal body grenades.

      They are typically old training versions, and have a 1/2 inch hole drilled through them, filler removed (natch), and the fuze replaced with a inert version.

      We have an M67 version in our office. It has a "Blame" tag attached to the pin. We give it to the person who breaks the build...

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    God-given rights

    Didn't God give us our constitution which says we can carry tactical nuclear weapons?

    Where's the NRA when you need them?

    1. raving angry loony

      Re: God-given rights

      If it doesn't benefit a firearms manufacturer in the USA (and possibly elsewhere) the NRA wants nothing to do with you.

  7. Number6

    It's in the labelling.

    If you try to take a box of gunpowder green tea on a flight then they'll confiscate that too, simply because of its name.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "Dual Purpose Grenades"

    I'm intrigued. What else can they be used for?

    1. Captain DaFt

      Re: "Dual Purpose Grenades"

      Obviously, you can either use them to blows things up, or knock things down.

      1. moiety

        Re: "Dual Purpose Grenades"

        Warfare and fishing.

        1. Euripides Pants Silver badge

          Re: "Dual Purpose Grenades"

          "Warfare and fishing"

          No, we use plain old dynamite for fishing - it's cheaper.

    2. Don Jefe
      Happy

      Re: "Dual Purpose Grenades"

      It is designed for use against infantry as well as light armor.

      Meaning it is big enough to cause significant damage to a lightly armored vehicle or semi/improvised hardened position but not so big that it violates the "overkill" provisions of warfare conventions for use against Humans.

    3. gaz 7

      Re: "Dual Purpose Grenades"

      Is that not just an Americanism . Like Country and western being both kinds of music

      1. Martin H Watson

        Re: "Dual Purpose Grenades"

        Country music is about home life and western music is about the great outdoors.

  9. DougS Silver badge

    How it happens

    This happened to a friend of mine about six months after 9/11, when everyone was still very jumpy.

    He had a real grenade that had been rendered inert he kept on his desk as a souvenir from his time in Desert Storm. He was still in the National Guard at the time and thus had a military ID.

    Unbeknownst to him, the night before an early morning flight, his son took the grenade off his desk and ended up putting it in his carry on bag he'd packed and set next to his desk. He went through security, they saw it on the Xray, and immediately hustled him into a room for further questioning. Fortunately for him the TSA guy was a former Desert Storm vet himself, could see the grenade was no longer operational, and bought his story, so he still made his flight on time. The grenade was confiscated, however (somehow I bet the TSA guy ended up taking it home)

    Obviously he wouldn't have deliberately packed a grenade, live or otherwise, but sometimes strange things happen when you have kids. I'll bet he checks the contents of his carry on before leaving to this day :)

    1. Tom 13

      Re: the night before an early morning flight,

      Right there is where you run afoul of the questions and regs at check-in. One of the questions they ask is whether or not you packed your bag and whether or not it has been under your control since you packed it. In this case the truthful answer is 'No' even though he thought it was. Yes, it is a hyper-legal point; but it's what they'll nail you on if you fight them. No, I don't like it any more than the rest of you do. I'd rather we did away with the theater show and had real security.

  10. Eddy Ito Silver badge

    One question

    Just who legally has access to live grenades? It's pretty much one of four types of people: police, military, criminals or a specially licensed person such as a manufacturer. Grenades are classed as "destructive devices" in 26 USC § 5845 and it isn't exactly legal for the average Joe to pick one up at Wally-World.

    The toys, lighters and inert replicas aren't grenades and is just the TSA whinging because the screener was embarrassed over peeing their pants and/or it caused a big hullabaloo in the terminal delaying other people from moving on and perhaps missing flights. IMO the TSA is perfectly right in complaining about it and people dumb enough to be carrying fake grenades should be pulled aside and questioned about whether they are intellectually capable of boarding an airplane for about 24 hours.

    All that said, considering there were roughly 180 million air travelers, 83 grenades carried by 83 or, more likely, fewer people, the blog is little more than poking fun at that witless few.

    1. Irony Deficient

      one of four types of people

      Eddy, regarding that third type of person who has legal access to live grenades — I suppose that it’s only the better-connected sort?

      1. Eddy Ito Silver badge
        Facepalm

        Re: one of four types of people

        D'oh! Must proofread more betterishly!

      2. Tom 13

        Re: one of four types of people

        Sadly in a true perversion of the law, according to a SCOTUS ruling, a convicted felon who has been released form jail can refuse to answer questions about carrying weapons and you can't hold it against him. Otherwise its constitutes self-incrimination.

        1. Irony Deficient

          felons and the Fifth Amendment

          Tom, are you referring to the 1968 decision of Haynes v. United States? If so, then you might have mixed up the effect of the decision; it affected felons who had to register firearms under the old National Firearms Act of 1934, not felons who carried weapons. As a result of that decision, Congress replaced the 1934 Act with the National Firearms Act of 1968 (which exempted felons from registration, to remove the self-incrimination issue) and the Gun Control Act of 1968 (under which felons can be charged for the possession of firearms).

          If you’re referring to a different Supreme Court case, I’d be curious to learn its name.

          Either way, there’s nothing constitutional about excluding felons (or anyone else) from Fifth Amendment protections.

    2. Don Jefe

      Re: One question

      Grenades are around. Troops bring ammunition home all the time, especially National Guard troops where they don't have to fly to or from their armory. Guard troops are also the number one source of tracer rounds. There are controls on explodey stuff, but there's just so much of it everywhere it is impossible to maintain accurate inventories or prevent it from walking off.

      In the big cash for guns roundups out west this year people brought live grenades, live mortar shells, at least one live tank round and two shoulder fired rockets.

      1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

        two shoulder fired rockets !!

        Wow. Just wow.

        1. Mayhem

          Re: two shoulder fired rockets !!

          I have never forgotten seeing a LAW on the wall in the firearms section of the main Gart Bros store in Denver back in 91 or 92. Apparently it was considered a hunting weapon.

          "Look ... a moose"

          BOOM

          <holds up shreds>

          "Got em."

          As for the rest, I recall flying back from Japan in 94 or 96 with a carry on bag full of interesting items.

          On being stopped by the scanner, he opens my bag, pulls out several throwing stars, a folding knife, a polycarbonate knife allegedly designed not to show up on xrays, a set of brass knuckles, several thousand BB rounds and a few other similar things my military obsessed homestay had given as mementos. He then pulls out my old all metal pentax SLR & lens boxes, looks them over, and puts everything back in and I board the flight.

          Apparently all that simply indicated "teenage male" and was classed as harmless fun in the days of airport sanity. Still have most of them lying in drawers back at the family home I think.

  11. MajorTom

    Reminds me...

    In 1999, leaving Seattle in late November, I remember seeing a bunch of dodgy-looking people stepping off the little subway train on their way into the exit of the airport while I was boarding the same train to get to the terminal. One young lady was very clearly carrying a (probably dummy) metal grenade, and she had just stepped off an airplane. I suppose she was one of the WTO protesters gathering for the "battle in Seattle."

    What stuck in my mind was that she had apparently been allowed to carry this on an airplane.

    Interestingly, on my way from Japan to the US in about 1990, I had nearly had an iron bell (more a windchime) confiscated because it was about the same size and color as a grenade. I had to beg the security guy to let me keep my souvenir.

  12. Arachnoid

    Even criminals are capable of licensing workrounds

  13. Marketing Hack Silver badge
    Pint

    And dont try bringing grenadine onboard either!!

    Unless you have rum as well, and enough to share....

    1. Anonymous Custard Silver badge

      Re: And dont try bringing grenadine onboard either!!

      Not to mention Pomegranates, especially French ones...

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    More proof

    These reports are more proof of just how many idiots get on planes. Despite these grenade reports and literally thousands of guns that are found and removed yearly - many of them fully loaded, we still have aresholes whining over TSA security checks. How damn stupid can people be? You'd think a simple airport security check was some big ordeal, when in fact it's not much at all.

    I travel around Europe and to the U.S. also and I find all of the complaints about the TSA to be a bunch of B.S. in my opinion. It's a bunch of braindead people who evidently prefer to be completely dead as opposed to just their current state of braindead?

    1. h3

      Re: More proof

      If more of the none terrorists were armed in sufficient numbers the whole thing would have resulted in less deaths.

  15. William Donelson

    But... but... but...

    What about your RIGHT to bear arms?

    The constitution does not say "guns" it says "arms"....

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Joke

      @William

      It's all in the interpretation, as you mentioned yourself. So since you already have 2 arms I guess the TSA has determined that you simply don't need any more.

    2. M Gale

      Re: But... but... but...

      It also states "as part of a well-regulated militia", but it's funny how many people forget that part.

      1. Pascal Monett Silver badge

        Re: funny how many people forget that part

        Yeah, especially at the NRA.

        On second thought, it's not funny at all.

  16. raving angry loony

    Typical

    Damn government. What part of "bear arms" didn't they understand? If I can't carry it with me, that's not "bearing arms". The terrorists have won I tell you!

    Oh, wait, I actually think the American 2nd (4th? not sure) amendment is a pile of mis-applied wank that's been misinterpreted to benefit firearm manufacturers, nothing else. Until I (or my historical re-enactor friends in that region) can carry a sword and be covered by the same rules (they can't, they aren't), then "arms" is a joke, and the whole thing is a scam. Nevermind then. Carry On (TSA). Keep groping!

    1. Don Jefe
      WTF?

      Re: Typical

      Where can you not carry a sword in the US? You might draw some attention and get asked what you're up to but I don't know where they'd prevent you (maybe in California).

      The same rules apply to swords as they do to open carry firearms. In a lot of places open firearms carry is perfectly legal. It is only when you want to carry concealed that you need a permit.

      1. raving angry loony

        Re: Typical

        You could read here: http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USKnife.pdf (amongst others)

        or here: (I can't get to the original any more. DNS issue maybe? I don't know.)"

        http://web.archive.org/web/20130808034321/http://thefiringline.com/library/blades/knifelaws.html

        Looking at that, looks like what are called "knife laws" are still a bloody mess in the USA. Want to carry a sword (what I would generally define as 50cm+ of sharpened steel) in public? Good luck figuring out the local limitations! I know of (only?) one instance (where I personally know the people involved, there may be others) where carrying the sword in a scabbard justified a charge of "concealed" (by the scabbard). Sigh.

        disclaimer: I last researched this 6 years ago, although the above links seems to have been kept up-to-date for various definitions of such. Laws may have changed since. Probably not very much since the NRA has traditionally been the bitch of firearm manufacturers, not really interested in "rights" so much as "money", and in the USA weapons laws don't change much without the money from some lobby pushing hard.

  17. maccy
    Stop

    journalist manipulation

    Usually, these sort of stories get "released" in response to some embarassing incident that puts the TSA in a bad light. I seem to remember reading about grenades in luggage sometime last year too.

    Anyone know what sort of idiocy the security theatre has been up to recently?

  18. John Smith 19 Gold badge
    Meh

    And yet *all* the 9/11 flights were *internal*

    I just though I'd remind people of that.

    And on a lighter note.

    Don't carry grenades on a plane, OK? Especially through Newark, as otherwise these people might come and sit on you.

    1. Tom 13

      Re: And yet *all* the 9/11 flights were *internal*

      Yes, but not all of the subsequent close calls were. And the relevant factor on 9/11 is that they were all cross-country flights with the planes taken over on take off. The point being to have the most fuel available for destruction when it crashed. Which mean international flights are other prime targets.

      Now, having said all of that, I think 9/11 was pretty much a one trick pony. Up until 9/11 we were all told and trained to obey the hijackers and chances were good we'd all come out alive. And being good little monkeys we all played along. As of 9/11 we now all know those rules don't apply anymore. Which means from hear on out, when you stand up to announce the hijacking the immediate response is going to be a plane full of pissed off people intent on taking you down no matter what. And that is what pisses me off the most about the Kabuki theater of airport security.

  19. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Most Western Airport Security is Smoke 'n' Mirrors BS

    Up until 2012 passenger aircraft in the US where regularly being loaded up with un-screened freight.

    If you want to experience real airport security, travel through Ben Gurion airport in Tel Aviv.

    Now THAT'S what I call being screened.

    1. Steve the Cynic

      Re: Most Western Airport Security is Smoke 'n' Mirrors BS

      "travel through Ben Gurion airport in Tel Aviv."

      I did that back in 97. It was a weird experience. Going *into* Israel (from London) was easy (aside from the bonus metal detector pat-down at the gate), but getting out was more amusing. I had listened carefully to my colleagues' advice - I didn't look like a backpacker or anything like that because one of them had done that and had had a four hour grilling.

      I had a letter in Hebrew from the local office that allegedly described what I had been doing there, and I was able to describe the little bit of sightseeing I had done the night before - a trip down the coast to see the old port at Jaffa. The guy looked at the letter, chuckled, and then set it aside. He seemed generally bored with my situation and let me go.

    2. Pascal Monett Silver badge

      Indeed. I imagine that Israeli security officers read about TSA stuff over their morning coffee, like we read the toons - to have a chuckle and move on with the day.

  20. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    So remember, real or not,

    if it looks like a penis, don't show it aboard

  21. Marvin O'Gravel Balloon Face

    I wish I could find the open letter written by a pilot to his in-house newsletter thanking the security personnel who, with the minimum of discretion, held him up at the barrier and confiscated his bottle of Tabasco sauce.

    Despite pointing out the fact that the sauce was the only thing that made the inflight meal edible, that he had access to a fire axe within the cabin, and that pilots are generally the first at the scene of an accident, rules were rules.

    1. Anonymous Custard Silver badge

      Seemingly doesn't apply to the VIPs who arrive at the accidents slightly later though...

      http://www.cntraveler.com/daily-traveler/2012/08/hillary-clinton-interview-visionaries

      There was also an old link to the story you reference (Tabasco getting confiscated at Glasgow Airport), but the link is dead.

  22. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Perhaps...

    ...these folks should test a real grenade in their pocket at home before leaving on a plane? Pull the pin and place it in your pocket. Then go jogging around the hood and see how long it takes for the grenade to trigger. If the first one misfires, do a second one. The time is important so please make sure to record exactly when the grenade explodes in your pocket. This will help future grenade designs.

  23. AJames

    My vote for most inept profession goes to the TSA screeners

    My company now allocates 10% equipment loss/breakage per trip due to inept (and sometimes larcenous) inspection and repacking by TSA baggage screeners. The sad thing is that they keep wasting everyone's time and money checking and re-checking the same bags, same equipment, same travelers that they should already know are reliable. Just how long is this going to go on before U.S. taxpayers smarten up and start allocating their security dollars more wisely?

    1. John Smith 19 Gold badge
      Unhappy

      Re: My vote for most inept profession goes to the TSA screeners

      "Just how long is this going to go on before U.S. taxpayers smarten up and start allocating their security dollars more wisely?"

      Simple.

      Never.

      It keeps the assorted dead beats of the Thieves Support Administration busy, employment high amongst unskilled people and inconveniences no one of importance*

      *IE Politicians, their assorted advisers, assistants, staffers, high class call girls etc as Regan National has a very efficient processing system for them.

  24. Tim Brown 1

    All I want to know is...

    "are you seeking entry to engage in criminal or immoral activities?"

  25. Henry Wertz 1 Gold badge

    A) I seriously doubt the soldier accidentally packed the grenade, he probably wanted a nice souvenir. The slap on the wrist is still fine as far as I'm concerned.

    B) Saying you can't bring a fake grenade USB stick or whatever is stupid. So, with an XRay machine if something vaguely looks like a grenade, but (since you can see the insides) obviously is not one, you still must pretend it is? This is the supidest thing I've ever heard of and is true security theater.

    1. robmobz

      On the Australian program "Nothing to Declare" a while back it was shown how a belt buckle shaped like a grenade looks like one on the x-ray. It took over an hour for them to properly evacuate the airport and get bomb disposal to find out if was just a belt buckle.

  26. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Kensington confiscation

    The only thing I've ever had confiscated by airport security was the Kensington cable lock for my laptop. The woman said that it could be used to strangle someone. (I resisted the urge to point out that my shoe laces would be equally good but I didn't want to spend the rest of the journey without them.)

    Somewhat ironic that a security device should be confiscated in the name of security.

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