back to article BOFH: Go on, beancounter, type DROP TABLE asset;

"Don't put that there," I snap - calmly, but firmly, as a Beancounter goes to drop a chunk of IT detritus on my desk. "What?" he asks, feigning innocence. "That. Don't put it on my desk, it doesn't belong there." "But it's IT equipment!" he bleats. "It's IT crap and it doesn't belong on my desk - any more that real crap …

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  2. Mostly_Harmless Silver badge
    Happy

    phrase of the day

    "dropping tables like a epileptic removals man"

    I like it :-)

    1. Jad
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      Re: phrase of the day

      Agreed ... a good end to a 4 day week :)

    2. Blubster
      Happy

      Re: phrase of the day

      "dropping tables like a epileptic removals man

      I like it :-)"

      As do I, a very cromulent expression.

  3. nuked
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    "we'll come to the chairs later"

  4. Michael H.F. Wilkinson Silver badge
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    Nice!!

    The beancounter should have heeded the warning sign:

    Danger! Dropping tables! Hard-hat and further protective clothing required.

    or the more generic:

    Here be dragons

    when approaching the BOFH's den

  5. mastodon't
    Pint

    Back with bang (and screams)

    Friday at last!

    seems like months since the last one, time for a lunchtime livener

    Cheers to all and have a wonderful weekend

  6. Gordon 10 Silver badge

    Best BOFH for ages

    I particularly liked the Aneurism line

  7. DrStrangeLug
    Happy

    Ah, good old BOFH, a role model for modern IT professionals everywhere.

    Whenever I get those stupid "Would you like to us your opinion of our site?" crap I always sign of with my nom de plume, DROP TABLE SURVEYS; .

    1. Anonymous Coward
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      XKCD reference

      http://xkcd.com/327/

      1. nichomach
        Devil

        Re: XKCD reference

        Ah, Little Bobby Tables, a perennial favourite...

    2. John G Imrie Silver badge

      You nees a new Nom de Plume

      ';DROP TABLE SURVEYS; #

      is much more fun

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Pint

    Thanks Simon.

    After many years, I now put down my coffee before reading BOFH.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It's friday.

    The temptation to drop a whole database and leave by the nearest exit is strong this afternoon.

  10. Captain Scarlet Silver badge
    Devil

    Two in a fortnight

    Is it christmas?

  11. stanimir

    Truly Good Stuff, although beancounters should not have DDL privileges. I just wish the PFY was a bit more involved.

  12. K Silver badge

    Excellent...

    But the evil needs to begin sooner :D

  13. Juillen 1

    Almost...

    A bobby tables day!

  14. thosrtanner
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    You *know* bad things are going to happen when the BOFH starts to be helpful.

    The pink mist though That produced a brown mist on my monitor. I can't stop laughing.

  15. Peter Gathercole Silver badge

    Did Simon forget

    the off-site DR copy? Or does he manage that 'facility' (i.e. his garage) for a fee as well?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Did Simon forget

      We once asked a customer for a restore of a database (test environment, they have their own dba's) and were told we might have to wait a while while they find the tape.

      'you mean retrieve it from the library?'

      'no... err, we've sort of lost it.'

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Did Simon forget

        Also, one of our servers tape drives decided to give up the ghost, one of my colleagues spotted the alarm when logging into it one day. He phoned the people at the data centre.

        "Oh I did wonder why there was a red light on it"

        "The one next to the words 'error' by any chance?"

        "Yes."

        "So how long has it been on"

        "A while now"

        "And you've just been changing the tapes"

        "Yes!"

        1. Why Not?
          Flame

          Re: Did Simon forget

          happy BOFH day to me, Happy BOFH day to me.....

          Its like turning up to a new (to me) customer to restore all their data as they had deleted it, ask for the backup tape and they reply - "oh the helpdesk told me you would install the backup after you had restored all our data ......"

      2. philbo

        Re: Did Simon forget

        I'm sure half the people here have a story like this: going back on-site to fix a customer's ID card database, I find that the tape in the tape drive was the one that I put there five years earlier, and the backup on it was the one that I had taken all those years ago.

        Nobody had clicked the "make a backup" icon once. Sigh.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Did Simon forget

          Nobody had clicked the "make a backup" icon once. Sigh.

          Which is why you automate backups with a scheduled task and a robotic tape changer. Although at a former employer the tape changer looked like it had been constructed from perspex and aluminium oddments in a school technology lesson, and managed to jam a tape in such a way that it unspooled all over the machine room floor.

          1. reno79

            Re: Did Simon forget

            My best one was made out of Lego Technic. Never failed once in over three years of use.

            And no I'm not joking.

        2. Midnight

          Re: Did Simon forget

          My personal favourite is finding the same tape you put in weeks ago still in the drive and a box full of unused blank tapes on the next shelf over, even though you know the full backup takes three tapes.

          Apparently the helpful folks on the night shift didn't understand why the tape kept popping out of the drive and just pushed it back in every time. That caused some kind of meaningless warning to appear on the backup console, but there was no reason to read it as selecting "OK" made that go away as well.

        3. Marshalltown
          Coat

          Re: Did Simon forget

          My favorite was an elderly couple whose son had given them a used computer. They were keeping their household books on it. Called out to upgrade the software for their book keeping and discovered that the son hadn't bothered to explain what a floppy disk, or that their computer had a floppy drive. They had been under the impression for three years(!!) that the slot in the front of the computer was for ventilation.

    2. Blofeld's Cat
      Devil

      Re: Did Simon forget

      "the off-site DR copy?"

      No - that's been outsourced to somebody called /dev/null for ages now.

    3. TeaLeaf

      Re: Did Simon forget

      @Peter Gathercole

      Not too far off one of our off-site storage providers; the tapes were stored in a barn!

  16. Lloyd
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    A pleasant return to form

    I haven't read BOFH in well over a year (basically back to when it came off the rails) and that was a pleasant return to form, it may have been that I was swearing at an UPDATE statement at the time because it wasn't using the index unless I forced it with a hint but hey, I enjoyed it nonetheless.

  17. Simon B
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    Fan'kin'tastic!

    Thoroughly enjoyed that one :) Welcome back oh BOFH overlord :)

  18. pipp
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    Fantastic stuff! Great to have the BOFH back :-)

  19. Crisp Silver badge

    Polishing the fingernail scratches off the window frame

    You've got to take care of the evidence.

    Or at least make sure that it points in someone else's direction :)

    1. John G Imrie Silver badge

      points in someone else's direction

      I thought that was taking care of the evidence

  20. The New Turtle
    Holmes

    Excellent - there was a sense of eager anticipation from the moment the word 'delete' was first used.

    Sherlock Holmes, because he'll be called in to find the missing backup.

  21. ecofeco Silver badge
    Coffee/keyboard

    Okay, well we can forget that WHERE clause for a start

    < there goes another keyboard

  22. Daniel B.

    Ahhh... the good old DELETE...

    only surpassed by the WHEREless UPDATE, when someone ends up realizing they've set the email field to 'sucks@2beU.com' on the whole table too late, after getting the response

    UPDATE 0 3958293

    Geeze, isn't that single statement taking too long?

  23. Herby Silver badge

    This goes into the category of...

    Worse Than Failure (or better known as WTF).

    Of course coffee spray over the keyboard might fit in that category as well.

    Isn't SQL so nice :-)!!

  24. Marshalltown
    Pint

    Ah - the pink mist

    Ok, please log in as root. OK? Goooood. Now type "cd /".

    Done that? Excellent, now type "rm -rf *". Done that? Fine.

    Yep it will take a while.

  25. J.G.Harston Silver badge

    "I'll login you into ..."

    Did you really smash your way through that cacophony of syllables, instead of saying the more mouth-friendly and more gooder English: "I'll log you in to..."

    1. perlcat
      Facepalm

      Amusing. Criticising Simon's grammar.

      "That's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it works."

  26. Jen 3

    Off-site backups?

    Those would be the tapes that are in the cardboard box sat on top of the floor standing server, whilst the on-site backup was the tape that was in the actual drive?

    1. jjk
      Devil

      Re: Off-site backups?

      "Those would be the tapes that are in the cardboard box sat on top of the floor standing server,..."

      ... overhanging just enough so that they fall on the passing beancounter's head... distracting him for long enough to let him step on the missing floor tile... making him stumble and hit his head on a strategically placed chair... and fall on a piece of old carpet that just *happened* to lie around...

    2. Fatman Silver badge

      Re: Off-site backups?

      No, they would be the tapes that sat next to the old CRT for more than 3 years, and may have been slowly erased by the magnetic field it generated.

      I once had a QIC (quarter inch cartridge) tape drive band snap during a high speed rewind; the resulting mess INSIDE the cartridge was a sight to behold.

    3. Pedigree-Pete
      Facepalm

      Re: Off-site backups?

      My off site backups were the ones found in someones back garden right after my car was raided in the local pub car park. Stupid theif thought there would be a laptop in that laptop bag.

  27. Spiny_Norman
    FAIL

    Or a feature of SQL*Plus that bit my colleague

    A jobsworth clown bounced a Linux server 3 times in15 mins without telling us, Hundreds of seriously fscked files that had to be cleaned out manually. Fortunately we had a list of the file ids so colleague fires up sqlplus & DELETE FROM (huge_table)

    WHERE FILEID IN (list of 10 file ids); This runs fine so:

    DELETE FROM (huge_table)

    --WHERE FILEID IN (list of 10 file ids);

    WHERE FILEID IN (list of next 10 fields);

    Whoops. 1.4 billion rows deleted before he wondered why it was taking a while. It took us a week to reprocess all the zapped data. Shame he hadn't RTFM...

  28. The Gopher
    Happy

    SQ Hell

    Well it was HELL for the Beancounter ;) The BOFH back to his best i see...

    Now where did I put that bulk eraser....

  29. davidp231
    Coffee/keyboard

    Pure brilliance.

    Gotta love SQL. Always fun and games when the BOFH is 'encouraging' someone to play with SQL.

  30. kjdavies

    Almost ran UPDATE without WHERE

    http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/47352638154

    1. Richard 120
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      Re: Almost ran UPDATE without WHERE

      I ran an update without a where once

      fortunately I did an export beforehand

  31. Rosuav
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    UPDATE/DELETE without WHERE

    This is why you should *always* have a transaction open. Oops, something went wrong... hit Ctrl-C, type 'rollback' if the SIGINT doesn't automatically roll you back, start again. If the worst comes to the worst, you just kill your client session and the server will automatically roll its transaction back. Of course, this does assume you're using a sane database engine; I use PostgreSQL, others also work, just avoid MySQL.

    The BOFH clearly knows this, hence the explicit 'commit' to seal the assets' (and DBA's) doom.

  32. Anonymous South African Coward Silver badge
    Devil

    Commit;

    Love this command :D

    Makes recovery soooo much harder :D

    And welcome back, oh mighty BOFH :)

  33. DrAJS
    Happy

    Update as a select

    This works well in SSMS:

    select * from <table name>

    --update <table name> set <field> = <value>

    where <clauses>

    Run the whole statement, check you are updating the rows you want and then highlight from the update command and hit F5. It's not idiot proof but it is fool proof.

    Every time I show that to someone they say "Oooh, that's a good idea!".

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