On the rare occasion that I use Explorer ...
... I don't do bing, and my system reports that I am using Konqueror.
Microsoft are looking for a new Bing developer - but you'll need to be pretty smart to apply. Oh, and you can only use Internet Explorer, which rules a fair number of applicants out. Visitors to the Bing homepage are currently greeted with a weird blue environment of some sort as the background to the search bar. But rich …
... how really stupid of Microsoft to integrate such a "Drive-by infection" look-a-like URL in their portal site ... Microsoft should be advised not to employ these kind of click-nerds at all ... bad example ... one dimensional cleverness ... this just shows, again, how little aware Microsoft is of what's going on out there ...
A person having this window open is no more likely to want to work for Microsoft than the next person smacking their face against the desk wondering why Microsoft have their own implementation of an html standard and wondering wtf is going on.
Open letter to Microsoft!!!!
The clue is the word standard, rather than playing silly buggers, read the dictionary
Screw you and your Bing experience Microsoft, you make our live so much more difficult than it needs to be
I second the motion. I wish Microsoft would just make up their minds already
IE0-6 "standards? We don't need no stinkin' standards"
IE7-9 "Fine fine we've complied with your 'standards' I hope your happy, now pages don't need to be made especially to work with IE.
IE 10 "Yeah so we like your standards, but we've decided to add some of our own... What do you mean they aren't really standards if only we were involved in making them? Fuck you Im a dragon!"
It seems like Microsoft are trying to reverse the tide of what happened to them before. Originally they didn't comply with standards and did things their own way, people migrated away because all sites displayed in chrome / opera / firefox / everything but IE. Now they're standards compliant they're adding in their own stuff again so that pages made using these new IE standards work for IE but won't work elsewhere, so you're forced to use IE.
I've already experienced this problem with a few microsoft sites. Visit with IE works fine, visit with any other browser and you're met with strange 'quirks'
I am guessing a fair few people have never had to design websites twice over in order to get them working.
Once for IE and Once for the rest of the worlds browsers.
One thing that Google and Apple have in common is a working browser. If even these two can coexist then why cant Microsoft?
The point to my post being that I feel its ironic that someone who is forced to look at that screen where the job advert is hidden is probably not there for fun and working for Microsoft is probably not on their agenda
> I am guessing a fair few people have never had to design websites twice over in order to get them working.
So you've not heard of "Responsive Design" then? That's the latest let's have it three ways technique.
Still, the good news is that there's no Microsoft in the mobile world.
Give it a fucking rest Eadon. I can't be arsed to knock up a greasemonkey script just to blot out your repetitive, puerile and immature comments. Spammers have a more varied lexicon.
HAVING TO END IN UPPERCASE EVERYTIME (AND ICON MUST BE RED) AS I'M A FUCKING DICK
"So why not use the built-in "ignore commentard" functionality on the site then?"
Eh? It ain't exactly rocket science ... It's because we aren't all "gold" commentards, the only commantards who have the option to "ignore commentard" outside of the world-wide offices of ElReg. Are you really that ignorant about how ElReg works? And you're a "gold commentard"? More proof that "icons", "badges" and "thumbs" are bloody fucking useless as currently implemented.
Not that I'd ignore a commentard, mind. Wetware works much better than code.
As a side-note ... one wonders why ElReg's elite "gold" commentards feel a need to run away & hide from the commentardary of us lowly blue-collar commentards. Sad, in a way, don't you think?
I think that when a comment reaches 5 more downvotes than it has upvotes, it should automatically be hidden.
Not deleted, just hidden. Basically saying, "Children, be quiet when the grown-ups are talking".
(I also appreciate that this probably guarantees this comment reaching 5 more down than up votes.....)
I seriously wish you had put the joke icon on your post. In the context of an intended joke it is pretty good and made me laugh pretty quickly. Unfortunately due to previous comments you have made it can also be read in the context of another unnecessary attack on MS.
But still kudo's for making me laugh on a friday
That was the bit that got my hackles up right away. A bit.ly URL-shortener link claiming to be a Microsoft job ad?
Yeah, right. Pull the other one, it plays Jingle Bells. There's a reason I've blocked all those sketchy URL shorteners at the firewall; something to do with I don't want to spend my days picking 0-day trojans out of the office PCs.
Who knew...and what do they do all day? Do they have a single monkey at the back end going the actual searches then? It's like something from the IT Crowd..."we've developed this great new search engine...here's the home page!"
"yeah, just type in your search string and click the button and it goes to Google for the results."
Oh and a Bing in Scotland means a slag heap...nuff said.
Must say, I think I'm beginning to develop Eadon-itis here.
If I saw the most annoying IE dialog appear while landing on the front page of bing.com I would simply turn around and head off to Google. MS really don't have a clue do they? As I think has been pointed out here already, anyone worth their salt as a developer wouldn't be using IE in the first place....
yes, other companies hide job ads in http headers. Yes, some weird people look at that.
$ GET -Used http://icanhazip.com/
User-Agent: lwp-request/5.827 libwww-perl/5.833
Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 07:23:51 GMT
Client-Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 07:23:51 GMT
X-RTFM: Learn about this site at http://rkrh.kr/2us and don't abuse the service
X-YOU-SHOULD-APPLY-FOR-A-JOB: If you're reading this, apply here: http://rackertalent.com/
(icanhazip.com is a site that lets you query your external ip from a command prompt, sometimes handy).
My My, such an outpouring of smugness and bitterness over a quite clever way to advertise a job for a large software company. Err why? So someone who is running IE in debug mode finds the job advert and goes for it, good luck to them. It is certainly one way to get some of the wheat out of the chaff.
And as for it being Microsoft, so what! There is nothing like having a couple of Multinationals on your CV when you move in to contracting. MS would be a good start.
I think it would be a great opportunity for someone starting out. I don't get the arrogance of a lot of you.
fairly silly remark, not sure what land you live in but i've worked with many talented developers who only use IE, infact many organisations insist on only using IE. Bing less so, i probably use it 20% of the time invariable google first but if i'm looking for something obscure and google comes up blank i try bing, sometimes it pays off , well worth a go an good techie who didn't know this would be missing alot of tricks.
If you're actually responsible for hiring techies and you approach it with that attitude i would think you're a pretty crap at your job. in reality your probably just a diseffected youth instead.
MS bashing looks more and more silly as time goes by, i remember that start of my career in the windows 3.11 days when it was the fashion to bash MS and as a young upstart wanting to fit in with my peers I joined in as well as with some other questionable fashon decisions i made back then but I look back and crindge! time to take off the silly looking clothes and grow up i say.
fairly silly remark, not sure what land you live in but i've worked with many talented developers who only use IE
It may be different now, IE actually has some developer tools to speak of, but anyone developing websites in the past 5 years ago who wasn't doing most of their work in Firefox or (eventually) Chrome was totally wasting their time, since the debug features just aren't there.
Even now, for doing certain debug tasks in IE you are better off using Fiddler, rather than the simplicity of chrome's approach.
if a prerequisit for a job was that i did use bing or IE i wouldn't apply and if in an interview that came i i would take the job either lol luckily for me thats never happend or anyone i've ever know.
Imagine if it did tho and i lied and then one day someone spotted me ! actually using IE!!! breach of contract... door ! lucky no companies like that actually exist in the realy world and if they did i wouldn't be offering my services...
Next time you have an interview i suggest mentioning your strong feeling about IE and Bing they might be impressed and give you the job, but i doubt it!
Imaging a boss like that no ie, no bing, blue pants only on a friday, no employees with the initials MS! right this has got silly enough i'm off... back to WORK, my register session is done for another few months, articles and comments are getting worse every time i come here! suggest you lot go back to playing war hammer or something which the rest of the world gets on with something that might very well include IE and Bing and might not :D
My recollection is that if you have the debugger enabled in IE, it offers to debug any site with errors (maybe that's just script errors).
This is especially annoying, as few sites are completely error-free. If you're working on cross-browser pages, especially if you're targeting earlier versions of IE, then you'll certainly have the IE debugger enabled because IE is where your bugs will be.
A good approximation to hell is trying to debug client script on IE6 using its so-called debugger. It generally terminates with a stack dump on good days, or a BSOD on bad ones.
Parkinson's Law, and Other Studies in Administration (first published in 1957) is the source of this recruitment technique.
If an advertisement for a vacancy describes the work as easy and well-paid, then there will be lots of applicants. The selection process will thus be expensive and time consuming. On the other hand, if the job description makes the work sound too arduous then no one will reply, and the advert will have to be run a second time.
It looks as though someone in Microsoft management has come close to achieving Parkinson's optimum. The ideal advert recruits a single applicant who is just right for the job.
"On Bing Homepage team you’ll be responsible for developing and shipping experiences on Bing.com homepage"
It's a search engine page which users use to find other sites to visit. Users don't want it to be an "experience", they want it to be quick, clean and to the point. There's nothing wrong with offering users other options on that page, just do it discretely, so you don't fuck up the whole point of the page.
dunno about your personal life but I dont like IE adverts because
a - it appeals to the type of average backwards Jeremy Kyle watching humanoid that uses facebook, and will believe that IE is actually more secure and faster than the other leading browsers out there
b - they choose some terrible trendy shit dubstep song that appeals to persons referenced in point a, and the advert is on way too much.
Pointy-haired boss: We need to recruit a new Bing Experience developer. Any suggestions on how to get a good one?
Wally: We could embed a link to an advert in the search page source so that only someone running it in developer mode will see the advert
PHB: (Thinking to himself later): But IE is perfect and has no bugs - why would anyone be running it in debug mode? In fact, why do we even have a developer mode?
Ill-informed. Firefox has had extensive dev tools built-in for some time now. It also had a DOM inspector long before any competing browser offered anything similar.
That said, I rather dislike this development, as dev addons like Firebug were a better approach IMHO. Why should these things be built into the browser when a vanishingly small proportion of users will ever need them? It smacks of "me too"-ism and frankly is a bit of a diss to the community behind Firebug and its many daughter add-ons (there are some other great dev addons too, the venerable Web Developer deserves a mention for one).
The only time I ever end up on Bing's page or using IE, is when installing a new Window's OS; between doing that and the post-install operation of installing a proper browser & anit-virus for the user. Although, I have to admit, I haven't installed Windows on a PC since 2011 and don't intend to ever do so again.
I notice on my webserver stats for my website specific to the Philippines, that Google Chrome has 53% of the market share in the Philippines with Firefox at 25.4%, IE at just 14%.and Safari at 5.1%.
Based on 4,171 unique visitors in April and the site is concerning Online Bookkeeping Services.
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