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Apple has released what it modestly deems to be "the best iTunes yet." That would be iTunes 11, which Cupertino touts as having a "dramatically simplified player, a completely redesigned Store, and iCloud features you'll love." When iTunes 11 was previewed on September 12 during the iPhone 5 rollout event in San Francisco, it …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    ...

    Simply hover your mouse over the intended portion of the info-bar, and it'll tell you how much data you're dealing with.

    On a side note, I do wish these companies would design their products to fit in with the intended OS. It's a bit jarring to have a monochrome Win 8 and then suddenly all of these blue gradients...

    I'm just glad Ctrl-S will allow you to have the sidebar open permanently.

    1. Simple Simon

      Re: ...hover over info bar

      The trouble with UI elements that appear when you hover the mouse, is that there is no hover event in a touch UI.

      I think designing UI elements that require onmouseover is a little short sighted. I'm certainly finding that I'm rethinking my approach to UI design, and noting the general move towards supporting touch interfaces, I wonder whether hover events (should) have had their day?

      1. wfavorite
        Childcatcher

        Re: ...hover over info bar

        I think it is short sighted to think of a single UI. (Windows 8 is a perfect example of this.) You tend to find mice on content creation systems, you tend to find touch interfaces on content consumption systems. The UI elements (and task at hand) is much more complex on content creation systems. That is why I hope to never lose mouse-over events - my interface is significantly more complex and *needing* those hints at less frequently used functionality (as well as other uses for this option).

        1. Not That Andrew

          Re: ...hover over info bar

          I personally don't think they should got rid of them altogether. There are appropriate uses for it and the basic info of what an info bar colour means is not IMHO an appropriate use. To me a more appropriate use would be using it to to get detailed information on the various areas of the info bar (although I would prefer a mouse click, myself).

  2. quarky

    Why are these still so expensive though, especially for movies & TV?

    It isn't iTunes (although it is of course more expensive than Google Play), but when it is cheaper to buy and rip the physical media, something is broken.

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    1. Nate Amsden

      Re: as a Mac user i am an unfortunate user of itunes 10

      as someone who doesn't use itunes at all, or Macs for that matter, Why are you using Itunes at all if you don't need any of the other things? I'd hope there would be other music players available that are less trendy.

    2. James O'Shea
      FAIL

      Re: as a Mac user i am an unfortunate user of itunes 10

      'Why should I upgrade?'

      If you don't want to, then don't. No-one is pointing a gun to your head and forcing you. If you don't have hardware which requires it (or at least will work better with it) and if you're not interested in the iTunes Store, then don't bloody upgrade. I don't have a iPhone 5 or a iPod, and I don't have any particular interest in buying stuff from the iTunes Store, so I have not upgraded. I haven't upgraded in quite some time, in fact.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: as a Mac user i am an unfortunate user of itunes 10

      "> I don't have Polio"

      Surely anyone who talks so much shit is in the risk group?

    4. Try Turning It Off And On Again
      Facepalm

      Re: as a Mac user i am an unfortunate user of itunes 10

      ...yet you have a Mac??

      If you don't want to upgrade, it's simple. Don't

      Heres an abacus for you to go troll with

    5. Toothpick
      WTF?

      Re: as a Mac user i am an unfortunate user of itunes 10

      You don't have to list your "excuses" for not upgrading.

      "I don't have a crapplePod or PissPhone". Did it take long to come up with these names?

      "I don't want to buy any music from Apple". Well don't then. No one's forcing you to.

      Finally, WTF has having / not having polio got to do with it?

      1. The Alpha Klutz
        Megaphone

        Re: Finally, WTF has having / not having polio got to do with it?

        when your muscles atrophy and die and your face looks as grey as the great Jobs, you will flop your limbs onto an iPad that will be near the hospital bed. And the iPad will tell you important news about what needs buying before your forget your pin number and they have to pull the plug.

        1. The Alpha Klutz

          Re: Finally, WTF has having / not having polio got to do with it?

          at least the apple plug will look sexy next to the life support plug

          1. The Alpha Klutz

            Re: Finally, WTF has having / not having polio got to do with it?

            BUY some products, homes: http://www.incrediblethings.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/fundies-underwear-for-two.jpg

    6. Big-nosed Pengie
      FAIL

      Re: as a Mac user i am an unfortunate user of itunes 10

      iTunes is an abomination.

      A couple of times when I've been tempted to create an account, it starts asking all kinds of idiotic personal questions which I flatly refuse to answer. I don't have to go through that shite to buy anything else online.

      1. Dana W
        Meh

        Re: as a Mac user i am an unfortunate user of itunes 10

        If you own a Mac you have an apple ID. Hence, no questions. You answered them once for your warranty, that's all that is required,

        1. Fred Flintstone Gold badge

          Re: as a Mac user i am an unfortunate user of itunes 10

          If you own a Mac you have an apple ID

          Actually, you'll have that with any Apple device. And if you don't have an Apple device you don't really need it anyway, so I don't actually see the problem there, certainly because it's up to me to decide what data I feed Cupertino. I won't touch the iCloud or other information absorbing iServices with a barge pole, but they're welcome to my musical taste (or lack thereof :).

  4. Fink-Nottle
    Facepalm

    Sync books still needs work

    My biggest gripe is that the dialog to sync selected books to a IOS device still needs work. Currently the dialog will only display book icons with individual check boxes. There's no way to display the books in list form to facilitate the quick selection of multiple items in a manner consistent with Finder.

    In general, iTunes is an abomination that should be broken up into three separate applications: library, store and devices. It's just too unwieldy - trying to adapt a single interface to accommodate three unrelated functionalities just doesn't work.

    Ah, well ...

    1. JeffyPooh Silver badge
      Pint

      Re: Sync books still needs work

      Sync (in general, not just books) is a content randomization button.

      When you have (for example) a 32GB iPhone and 1,277GB of media in iTunes on the PC, then when you unleash the mindless Sync function - it's too stupid to notice that 1277 > 32 - so it randomly loads in some stuff and then stops with an error message. I've never seen it work properly.

      To those that will claim I'm doing it wrong, I'm hovering the cursor over the Sync button and then clicking it. It's Apple, it's supposed to "just work". Yet another Apple SW Fail.

      1. Lallabalalla
        Trollface

        Re: Sync books still needs work

        You are doing it wrong.

        1. Check the box that says "manage my music manually".

        2. Tick the boxes for the media you want on your phone.

        3. Untick the boxes for the media you don't want on your phone.

        4. Stop being a twit.

        5. Buy a different phone.

  5. O RLY

    Of course Apple refer to this version as the "best iTunes ever". Microsoft refer to Windows 8 as the "best Windows ever", Oracle refer to 11g as the best, etc.

    Has there ever been a major company release a new version and say something like "iTunes 11, the second-best iTunes ever"?

    1. NoneSuch Silver badge
      Devil

      I'd love to see a statement from Apple that says:

      "iTunes - A program so good, no one got fired for bringing it to market."

    2. Chris 244
      Coat

      iOS 6: Best Apple Maps ever!*

      *Ever designed by Apple

    3. Amorous Cowherder
      Coat

      Well if a UK company made it..."New XYZ - It's OK but not great! You know what, you might be best to give this one a miss. My girlfriend's mate, quite fit as it happens, had this thing where it wouldn't sync with ABC so she took down to PC World. I know! I said look, you muppet don't go there, it's full of planks. Bad as my dopey sister, the pair of them. Anyway, XYZ is OK just try to do that thing that goes boing, boing after you push that button marked with a green Y on it, should be alright."

    4. Lord Elpuss Silver badge

      Challenging to market a product as anything other than The Best Yet really.

      "The new iTunes 11. Not quite as good as the previous version, but still OK."

      Reminds me of that quote from The Invention of Lying:

      "Pepsi. For when they don't have Coke."

  6. James O'Brien
    Alert

    I feel it must be said

    When looking at the artists represented on the music list Leonard Nimoy? He has a band? And its classed as rock?

    Sorry I find that surprising as much as I love him as Spock I never bothered to follow his other works. Photography and so on.

    1. stucs201

      Re: I feel it must be said

      You're going to regret asking that. Yes Leonard Nimoy did have a record:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC73PHdQX04

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: I feel it must be said

        ... And the photography is NSFW, so I can't toss a link here to horrify you with, as I'm at work. :)

        anon for obvious reasons.

      2. Andrew Moore

        Re: I feel it must be said

        Let's start a petition to get this as the official theme tune for the new film

      3. James O'Brien
        WTF?

        @ stucs201

        AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH OMG OMG OMG

        WHY? WHY IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS HOLY DID YOU POST THAT? FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHY?

        You sir are a bastard. I'm going to go stick ice picks in my ears now....

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    2. Dana W

      Re: I feel it must be said

      His one man show of Vincent showed how great a stage actor he was.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I feel it must be said

      Mr Shatner fancies himself as a bit of lounge singer too, when you're only well known for one thing you have to branch out a little to keep the rent paid, just no slightly dodgy cop shows while wearing a corset!

      1. Anonymous Custard Silver badge
        Alien

        Re: I feel it must be said

        It's something about Star trek actors and crooning - Brent Spiner (Mr Data in TNG) did it as well, with several of his male co-stars as his backing singers.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsUke0g4ajQ if you dare...

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: I feel it must be said

        > Mr Shatner fancies himself as a bit of lounge singer too

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ainyK6fXku0

        Posted on the basis that I have had to listen to it and misery loves company.

        1. Not That Andrew
          IT Angle

          Re: I feel it must be said

          You need to listen to his version of Rocket Man , it's hysterical.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lul-Y8vSr0I

    4. Fred Flintstone Gold badge

      Re: I feel it must be said

      Groan.

      Never has "It's life, Jim, but not as we know it" been more appropriate..

  7. IHateWearingATie
    FAIL

    Best ever?

    Well on Windows it'd be difficult to be much worse. I've used iTunes for a while in windows and its a hateful piece of crap - buggy, inconsistent and continually freezing and crashing. Apple have never seemed to properly fix the freezes on the windows version; here's hoping version 11 is the one.

    1. dogged

      Re: Best ever?

      I know at least three people (non techie, basically iPod/iPhone users, ie women) who bought Macs purely because iTunes under Windows is so foul.

      Therefore, I suspect it's working as intended.

      1. Chris 244
        Thumb Up

        Re: Working as intended?

        My response to the horribleness of iTunes on Windows: never buy another Apple product. My (under warranty) classic iPod died a slow horrible death from the constant onslaught of errors during syncing. Soon followed to the grave by the no-longer-under-warranty replacement.

        Bought a Sansa Clip+ and never looked back.

      2. Fred Flintstone Gold badge

        Re: Best ever?

        who bought Macs purely because iTunes under Windows is so foul

        Hmm. I never really had that many issues with iTunes on Windows, it's IMHO not spectacular on OSX either. For me it's always done the job but it's not exactly a program I *like* using (as opposed to, say, Omnigraffle Pro to make Visio work of colleagues look *so* much nicer :).

    2. Dana W
      Trollface

      Re: Best ever?

      When I was still Windows I used Annapod. iTunes for Mac is great. iTunes for windows is a joke. Then then again, so is Windows, so I suppose like attracts like.......

    3. Tom 79
      Childcatcher

      Re: Best ever?

      > iTunes for a while in windows and its a hateful piece of crap - buggy, inconsistent and continually freezing and crashing.

      lol. Are you talking about Windows or iTunes?

    4. Fihart

      Re: Best ever?

      iTunes 11 still looks like a bleak spreadsheet, but hopefully a little less confusing in Windows than the versions I've used.

      Though doubtless regarded as terrible by some purists, Easy CD (aka Roxio) was the first CD ripper I used that worked reliably and logically and, several versions later, remains my first choice.

      While I have no problem with the iPod, iTunes stopped me ever buying another.

      1. jason 7 Silver badge
        Facepalm

        Re: Best ever?

        Yeah when I saw the article I thought "oh have they changed the dull grey spreadsheet look then?"

        Nope.

        Predictable if nothing else.

  8. ThomH Silver badge

    This is going to take some getting used to

    Optimistically for Windows users, the interface looks like a complete rewrite, albeit possibly motivated by someone incessantly asking "can't we make it any brighter?". The binary isn't substantially different in size on the Mac though so let's not get too excited.

    The advertised 'albums' view seems like a non-starter to me unless you have only about six of them but 'artists' works quite well and 'songs' provides the classic layout if you want it. Colour icons are back in the sidebar but the bar itself is no longer essential to navigation. The new control icons at the top are a huge improvement — the silhouette destroying circles they used to sit in are gone, making everything visually clearer. It's also good that they've made the mini-player more obvious but it now seems to have lost its progress bar, which is a shame.

    1. Ian Yates
      Windows

      Re: This is going to take some getting used to

      I may be on my own, but I think UI design for media managers hit its useful peak years ago.

      The number of use-cases for them is pretty low and most people just want to access a song/album/artist/playlist/genre quickly.

      Even my original Nomad Jukebox Zen (how I miss thee) had an entirely usable interface with just a clickable scroll wheel. I could build playlists on the fly back in 2002, a feature that went missing from many subsequent products.

      On the desktop, I'm still a WinAmp user. Sure, I don't get to see the album art while browsing (though I could), but I've just always found it quick and easy to browse my music collection and sync a playlist to any device.

      1. Not That Andrew

        Re: This is going to take some getting used to

        IMHO it's hard to beat the interface of Foobar2000. The default interface is simple and well laid out and supports multiple playlists. Its fully customisable so you can make it look blingy or add stuff like lyrics and album covers. I use the default myself

        1. Not That Andrew
          Facepalm

          Re: Foobar 2k

          Forgot to mention Foobar doesn't sync devices without a plugin or 2, so it's probably a non-starter for many.

      2. ThomH Silver badge

        Re: This is going to take some getting used to (@Ian Yates)

        While probably true, iTunes is still a bit too much of a feature mess to be described as merely a media manager. It's a media manager that also manages applications, streaming (both local and remote), performs device synchronisation — including its content and that inherently belonging to other applications, and has only recently stopped being a social media client.

        I'm an advocate for splitting it up but I guess Apple want to be able to give Windows users who buy iPods, iPhones, etc, a single thing to install (and, for whatever reason, won't just make that thing 'a driver').

  9. PTR
    FAIL

    "Apple has released what it modestly deems to be "the best iTunes yet.""

    I should hope so too, otherwise they've made a massive mistake in releasing something worse than something they had done in the past. Bizarre statement, but one apple uses all the time. Remember the "best iPhone ever" advert?

    1. veti Silver badge

      Maybe they're trying to draw a contrast with Windows 8. Even Microsoft's own lackeys use qualifiers like "probably" or "arguably" when they try to paint that as "the best Windows yet"...

  10. Richard Boyce
    Thumb Down

    Media formats

    The player in iTunes on the Mac still doesn't support flac or ape and presumably many other formats. So they're still not trying very hard on this aspect of the software. I doubt that many people will switch from their existing competent player. Perhaps Apple should remove the player altogether from iTunes, and link to Quicktime, and then work on upgrading that.

    1. Fred Flintstone Gold badge

      Re: Media formats

      Argh. Quicktime. No swearing, please.. :(

  11. Tim Brown 1
    Meh

    however...

    I have an iPad2, I've chosen not to upgrade to iOS 6 for now.

    In their wisdom, Apple don't upgrade iTunes separately from iOS, so no new version for me.

    1. Silverburn

      Re: however...

      Wrong way round surely? You can and did get dot releases in itunes without IOS updates.

      If they've actually done something with the performance, I'll be happy. It's slug slow, even just navigating around.

  12. Goat Jam
    Flame

    Looks awful. In fact it looks like it is suffering from the same idiotic minimilist UI design philosophy that is currently all the rage in the Windows, Unity and Gnome 3 dev teams.

    "Hey, let's simplify things by removing all the visible controls and elements"

    "yeah! But what if somebody needs to use the element we've removed?"

    "Oh, they can hover their mouse over a part of the screen which will trigger the element to appear using this awesome new poof-poof-glitter transition I made.

    "Neat. How ill they know where to hover their mouse?"

    "They'll figure it out. Look. poof-poof-glitter!"

    "Awesome! You rock dude. Hey, is that your mom outside, honking her car horn?"

    "Yeah, gotta go. It's time for my afternoon nap."

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Awesome. Thanks for saving me the time to summarise - my sentiments exactly. So far, I dislike the thing because they've done a Microsoft: hidden stuff so you have to hunt for it, which is very unlike the OSX platform in general.

      I am slowly coming to the conclusion that there must be simply too many UI designers looking for something to do, because there is this ever present desire to change crap that just worked, f*ck the impact on users.

      Maybe we should grab the lot of them and send them to Elon Musk as the first batch to be shot to Mars, together with car salesmen, lawyers and telephone sanitisers..

    2. Chris 3

      So far I like it a lot, the design has been cleaned up and simplified without removing functionality. The thing I *really* like about it, however is that they've made it more customisable than is Apple's wont. Go up to the View Menu and you can show/hide status bars and sidebars and what not and make it look almost like iTunes10 again if you want to.

      1. ThomH Silver badge

        Can we at least get a cheer for the death of Cover Flow? If they can strip it out of the iPhone Music app too then I'll finally be able to use that without having to remember to engage the orientation lock in advance.

  13. Winkypop Silver badge
    Stop

    I'll wait for a while thanks

    Going by past updates to iTunes for Win, it's wise to stay behind the bleeding edge.

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    itunes. software that has single handedly stopped me getting an iphone, ipad etc.I salute it.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Maybe you should try it rather than base it on versions years ago - I've been running iTunes for many, many years and certainly for the last 3-5 years had very few problems - certainly v10 was fine and installed v11 this morning and apart from getting Match results being a little slow (probably very high demand) it's been fine.

  15. Dana W
    FAIL

    They KILLED COVERFLOW!

    You bastards!

    1. TwoWolves
      Windows

      Re: They KILLED COVERFLOW!

      MS also killed aero flip (useful in an idle moment to vent frustration at windows in general). I see a pattern emerging here.

    2. Fred Flintstone Gold badge

      Re: They KILLED COVERFLOW!

      Yeah, I'm really going to miss the feature that specialised in minimising the amount of usable information on my screen. I think I may have used that once. By accident.

    3. ducatis'r us
      Meh

      Re: They KILLED COVERFLOW!

      possibly related to the patent action mentioned here, even though the judgement was subsequently reversed??

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cover_Flow

      I liked Cover flow but apart from that I think it is an improvement over 10.

  16. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Just fancy a moan...

    iTunes is the most hateful piece of malware ever to infect my PC

    1. teapot9999
      WTF?

      Re: Just fancy a moan...

      well uninstall it then !

      1. Dana W
        Unhappy

        Re: Just fancy a moan...

        If only I could. It looks like the only way to escape iTunes 11 on my Mac is re-os

    2. Dana W
      Trollface

      Re: Just fancy a moan...

      I thought Windows was the most hateful piece of malware ever to infect your pc.

      1. Alan Bourke

        Re: Just fancy a moan...

        Lame troll of the month award!

  17. jai

    i'm liking it

    i really like the artists/album view thing - most especially on the Movies and TV Shows tabs. Nice to be able to see all the key details from the ID3 tags displayed at a glance instead of having cmd-i to see it.

    there's a bug on the device sync screens where it tries to size the group box on the left with the item box on the right. So when you have some TV Shows, and some of them have a LOT of episodes, scrolling around to see shows further down the list gets interesting. Surprising really, scroll boxes in OS X are usually independent of each other and respond to where the mouse is hovering, not the window it is in, so perhaps it's the bug they've been trying to fix all month long.

  18. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Ahh bless, proprietary software to buy and load music and video.

    How quaint. It's like 2002 all over again...

    One day, Apple will come up with something like Google Music.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Ahh bless, proprietary software to buy and load music and video.

      One day, Apple will come up with something like Google Music.

      So far, Apple has been quite good with the little amount of personal data it has on me - it doesn't use for anything else. Having fully read through Google's T&Cs and Privacy Statement I cannot see how anyone in their right mind outside the US would ever want to touch anything other than Google search ever again.

      On a related note, just heard of a friend that their city IT security team has thrown all the Android based devices of their BYOD program, and users now need special permission and their devices checked. Given that I know some of the higher ups there I must go and have a chat - they're not prone to drama so they must have found something interesting..

  19. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Seems to have cut the bloat a bit. Started up much faster.

    1. graeme leggett

      I got a speed increase at startup with previous versions by turning off the auto-updating of the built in playlists ("Top 10 tracks" etc)

  20. Lloyd

    Completely Redesigned?

    Does it work properly under Windows now? Have they made it stable so that you no longer have to reinstall iOs every 3rd minor iOS release because it knackers your phone/ipod? I'll believe it when I see it.

  21. Bugs R Us

    iTunes Store look

    For a second there I thought it was Google Play.

  22. takuhii

    I don't like it </andyPipkin>

  23. Topaq
    Unhappy

    They also killed Artist Grid View

    Extremely annoying when you're used to it, and/or when you hav a large collection of artists with many albums for each. Now the only grid view is for individual albums, which makes scrolling to the end an arduous task. "The best iTunes ever"... indeed

  24. durbster

    iTunes

    Hmm. Looks like they've just removed half the interface. Does this mean you can no longer drag and drop because I trust iTunes to manage my media as much as I'd trust a cabbage to manage my finances.

    iTunes has traditionally taken all the lessons and experience built up over the past twenty years about how to build an intuitive user interface, then implemented the exact opposite. It gets so many basics of interface design wrong I can't help thinking it must be done intentionally, just for a laugh.

    Screen resolutions are very high these days - let's hide features, scatter them inexplicably around the screen and make people roll over to find them. Everybody LOVES blindly scanning round an interface to find what they're after!

    Speaking of which, where shall we put the Add Playlist button - in the playlist section?

    Of course not, just stick it on the bottom of the interface with the most vague icon we can think of.

    Should we use our graphic interface for all our navigation?

    Nah, let's put some buttons into the pseudo digital information screen for the hell of it. Because everyone will expect navigation to appear in the information screen won't they?

    Shall we exclusively use dialogue boxes to announce critical features such as, "iTunes is about to delete everything off your iPod"?

    Great idea! Everybody reads those. It's not like people just click the button they think is most likely to get rid of them.

    1. Fred Flintstone Gold badge

      Re: iTunes

      Worse, no webpage to go over the new functionaility, no, they choose $&ç%* videos.

      I don't know why this craze exists to make people lose part of their lives listening to an irritatingly upbeat voice telling you things slowly as if you're a moron where you can absorb such data in about 1/20th of the time in print.

      Podcasts and video have very limited utility for people that prefer to spend their time doing something interesting (like me typing on El Reg)..

      1. George of the Jungle
        Thumb Up

        Re: iTunes

        "I don't know why this craze exists to make people lose part of their lives listening to an irritatingly upbeat voice telling you things slowly as if you're a moron where you can absorb such data in about 1/20th of the time in print."

        Ta, my thoughts exactly. I think people have lost the ability to comprehend the printed word.

      2. PhilBuk

        Re: iTunes

        Agreed - it's becoming far too common. The BBC news website tries to use videos as much as possible when all I need is a well-written article. I suspect it's because reading is starting to become a bit rare.

        Phil.

  25. LeeS

    Rescan Folder??

    Have they managed to implement the simplest thing any media player should be able to do yet?

    Rescan your content directory?

    Winamp does it and it's a faster and much easier to use, media monkey does it, although it's a fussy interface.

    I keep all my music on my Nas, not where apple want me to, and the inability to rescan the content was unbelievably annoying when trying to use my ipod, to the point the ipod has not been updated in 18 months.

    I use multiple devices, android tablet & phone, windows desktop and laptop and they all play very happily with each other, just Apple that has to be bloody awkward!

  26. Mystic Megabyte Silver badge
    FAIL

    iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii've gone mad!

    With all these feckin Is. I don't want to have to say iThis and iThat all bleedin' day. It's really annoying.

    When you consider that it was fashionable to put X or Z or then E in front of your product name and now they all look dated.

    For heavens sake just give your product a decent name.

    1. Fred Flintstone Gold badge

      Re: iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii've gone mad!

      Hmm. iSuck does have a certain "ring" to it (that's enough bad puns for this week)..

    2. Fihart

      Re: iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii've gone mad!

      These iProducts should be renamed meProducts -- as in "It's all about me, me, me"

  27. Archivist
    Stop

    Get over it

    It's free for goodness sake, take it or leave it. Anyone would think it's important.

    1. durbster

      Re: Get over it

      It's free but if you own an iDevice then every attempt is made to encourage you to use it. Therefore, it being shit is not really acceptable, especially from the most valuable company in the world.

  28. Richard Barnes

    Gave up on iTunes a while back...

    .... as it was too slow and unresponsive. I use MediaMonkey these days - much quicker and more flexible.

  29. Greg J Preece

    God, it's ugly. I can't be the only one thinking that, can I? I've spent years wondering how Apple's default selection of greys gets called "beautiful", but when MS do it, it's ugly. For simply playing music, Songbird looks and works better than this, and that's a FOSS Mozzy app!

    1. Not That Andrew
      Joke

      Calling applications like Songbird FOSS makes baby RMS sad.

      1. Greg J Preece

        What's Nightingale then? :-p

  30. estaban delsur
    Pirate

    up to eleven

    disappointed you didn't manage a "Spinal Tap" pun into the review.

    Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where?

  31. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Can you now zoom-in on the 'Store...

    Or do you still have to get off the couch and go take a closer look at the TV to browse film rentals?

  32. stephajn
    Thumb Down

    Complete Redesign???

    Doesn't look like that much of a complete redesign to me. Windows 7 Start Menu to Windows 8 start screen....THAT is a complete redesign! (Not a successful one but it is a complete redesign)

    But this....it looks like all they did was shuffle around a few sections on the screen, and hide the sidebar by default and apply just a tiny wee bit of touch-up to the chrome at the top and slap a new icon on it.

    But...Apple ...with their marketing engine and hype and such....call it a redesigned iTunes. Ungh! My wife still has her iPod Touch 2nd Gen, and when I hold iOS 4 up next to iOS 6....I really see nothing changing for the most part. Certainly nothing that deserves two version numbers newer! So....why did it take so very long for this to come out then?

  33. BigEnso

    Getting it right

    As that month drew to a close, an Apple spokesman informed world+dog that "The new iTunes is taking longer than expected, and we wanted to take a little extra time to get it right."

    Too bad they didn't do this with Apple Maps on iOS 6.

  34. Roland Young
    FAIL

    Rivals iOS 6 Maps for reputation damage capability

    OK, there are no bendy bridges or misplaced zoos, but this app is at the core of Apple's business model and this upgrade drops useful features (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57556548-37/7-features-apple-killed-off-in-itunes-11/) and contains at least one terrible bug (https://discussions.apple.com/message/20430860#20430860)

    No Coverflow - bit of a backward step visually

    No iTunes DJ - my favourite way to get a controllable but random playlist is gone

    No option to set gapless playback - when you want that, you really want it.

    Fail to update play count or last played time - fail, even if there is a sort of workaround.

  35. wondermouse
    FAIL

    Itunes 11 - Apple You B*****DS!

    I installed iTunes 11 this afternoon.

    I had a well managed iTunes 10 library with lots of playlists, almost all album art imbedded in ID3 tags, and about 120,000 tracks, all properly tagged.

    Now I have NO playlists - they've ALL been removed. AARRGGGHHHHH!

    Now about half of my library is missing. Now Christmas for example has only 11 tracks rather than 47

    I can't find the column browser at all - the one view I used all the time.

    It is currently busy "determining gapless playback" for 24,186 tracks and so is slower than a snail on strike

    The search box - always one of iTunes' best functions - now keeps asking to search the iTunes store rather than my library.

    WHY do they choose to hide the "track number" and "disc number" fields by default? It makes no sense and is totally beyond me.

    WHERE is the "total number of tracks/total size" information that used to be handily on show at the bottom of the iTunes window?

    All the TV shows that I carefully ripped and labelled in ipod format, with season info and the like - all gone.

    And last of all, WHY, in the name of all things holy, does iTunes STILL not have a RESCAN LIBRARY BUTTON to add new media and remove deleted and renamed items? This should have been there on DAY ONE, not still missing 11 versions down the bloody line.

    This is the biggest abortion of an update I think I have ever seen in iTunes.

    Listen Apple - I WANT MY LIBRARY BACK. I WANT MY PLAYLISTS BACK. YOU ARE A BUNCH OF UTTER, UTTER, UTTER, UTTER.....

  36. wondermouse
    Pint

    getting the status bar back

    "WHERE is the "total number of tracks/total size" information that used to be handily on show at the bottom of the iTunes window?"

    OK to answer one of my own fails at least. To get the status bar back you have to.....

    1. CTRL+B to bring up the menu bar

    2. then view>show status bar to bring it back

    Good grief - talk about hidden settings! Without the menu bar you can't access it!

    1. Lallabalalla

      Re: getting the status bar back

      Or just ctrl + /

      hth

    2. Lallabalalla

      Re: getting the status bar back

      I bet all your other stuff is there: try CTRL + S to show the sidebar.....

      I've pretty much got it back to how I liked it now: figuring out how to attach new album art took a few minutes though:

      go to albums view

      right-click -> show Info on the album that needs a cover

      Drop a jpg into the Artwork panel on the Multiple Item Information dialog or double click the panel to choose.

  37. Lallabalalla
    Megaphone

    and - BRING BACK COVER FLOW!!!!

    that is all

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