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Personal computing may have originally been more ‘computing’ than ‘personal, but that changed in the late 1970s in the US and, in the UK, during the early 1980s. In the first part of ‘A History of Personal Computing on 20 Objects’, we saw how computing went from maths gadgets to first mechanical, then electromechanical and …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Surprised...

    ...to not see any laptops in here. Any computer historians know which was the first computer to feature the hinged screen lid and built in keyboard design that we all know and love?

    1. AbortRetryFail
      Happy

      Re: Surprised...

      Would that not be the GRiD 1100 Compass which was "the world’s first clamshell computer and thus the template for the notebook computer"?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Surprised...

        Very quick answer, thanks. Just Googled it. Wow, she's a beauty.

        1. Jason McLaughlin
          WTF?

          Re: Surprised...

          Is this a whoosh?

        2. Anonymous Coward
          FAIL

          Re: Surprised...

          Just realised that you were subtly pointing out that it was in the article after all. Just didn't read it properly and the picture doesn't really make it look like a "laptop"!

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  3. jai

    GRiD

    I used a GRiD when I was about 5 - my dad brought it home from work for a weekend.

    I remember being quite awed by it at the time, and compared to the big case of the Apple ][e I was used to with a gigantic box of a monitor on top, it was futuristic looking.

    That said, I was only 5 or was pretty awed by anything technological at the time anyway.

    Then, 3 years later my dad came home and set up a Mac on the dining room table and I spent all weekend drawing bitmap pictures in MacPaint and wondering why anybody bothered with keyboards and command lines

    1. Grimxn

      Re: GRiD

      I still have a GRiD (an 110x Compass - the original model) as well as a later GRiDCase (which ran MS-DOS as well as GRiD-OS). The Compass WAS awesome - it had absolutely no moving parts - neither disk (bubble memory for permanent storage), nor fans (convection from the mag-alloy case for cooling), had 1Mb of RAM (when IBM were saying no one would ever need more than 640kb), OS and most apps in PROM, a fully graphical interface, a proper pre-emptive multi-tasking operating system in GRiD-OS (based on iRMX), and IEEE488 (HP-IB) and RS232 interfaces. All for a bargain entry price of £5,000 in 1983!

      The original specs were DoD-inspired - it had to capable of being dropped and run over by a truck without damage, however, when NASA first used it to augment the 60s/early 70s computing designed into the Shuttle, they failed to anticipate that the no-moving parts convection cooling didn't work so well in zero-gravity! Later models included a fan...

      1. Anonymous Coward
        FAIL

        @Grimxn

        "(when IBM were saying no one would ever need more than 640kb)" actually IBM never said that, and its extremely unlikely given the Big iron they build that they would.

        Bill Gates is the visionary, who also though the internet would never amount to anything useful, that gave us that insightful comment.

  4. davenewman

    National Museum of Computing

    You can see a lot of the computers mentioned in Parts 1 and 2 of this article in the National Museum of Computing, located at Bletchley Park (www.tnmoc.org). I went there on a trip with Reading BCS, and spent fascinating hours going through all the computers, from a working Colossus replica to a surface computer implementation of the BBC's Doomsday project.

  5. Neil Barnes Silver badge

    Osborne...

    Not 'portable', more sort of 'transportable'.

    One of my arms still feels longer than the other...

    1. Mark McNeill
      Thumb Up

      Re: Osborne...

      Portable as a suitcase full of bricks, they said at the time. Didn't bother us, we never moved it.

      We ran a business on that machine for ten years or so, until clients started demanding Word-format files. I don't recall it ever crashing.

      1. dak
        Happy

        Re: Osborne...

        Wrote my Master's thesis on one of those - I think it was the first word processed one the department had seen.

        Then I wrote a bookkeeping system in Mbasic that ran for 11 years without error.

        Brilliant machine. I tripped over it a couple of weeks ago in the loft...

    2. dssf

      Re: Osborne... Also, it had another term...

      "Luggable", because the things were so damned heavy, there was more lugging than carrying, hehehe. Now that I recall, my dad had one of those. We also had an Epson QX - 10. But, that Epson was mire of a desktop, tho the thin body made it easy for him to take it with him and use it on lunch breaks at work. Cannot recall wgat became of the Osborne, though.

  6. Ru

    Hmm, iPads?

    I'd have put Apple's most recent serious innovation as the iPhone. Whilst it wasn't the first touchscreen smartphone, the UI certainly blew away all the competition, and it has certainly defined the look and style of pretty much all smartphones since. The iPad wasn't anywhere near as interesting by comparison; did it really sell well because it was 'tablet computing done right', or because it was an Apple product?

    1. Britt Johnston
      Trollface

      Re: Hmm, iPads?

      The most important contribution of the iPad was to suppress the development of 10" smartphones

    2. a_been

      Re: Hmm, iPads?

      Well with over 100 million sold in under 3 years anyone who says it's becase of the name will have to explain why it's outselling the iPod Touch by over 5 to 1.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Hmm, iPads?

      iPads shouldn't be there, the PalmPilot should be... that is where tablet computing began for me..

      1. MrEntropy
        Go

        Re: Hmm, iPads?

        I started with the Sony Magic Link

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Link

      2. John 104

        Re: Hmm, iPads?

        @AC

        Agreed. Surprised not to see it in there. If people could get over their obsession with iProducts, and look back 10 - 15 years, you would see that the Palm Pilot was THE productivity tool for mobile users. They were HUGE in their time.

      3. jai

        Re: Hmm, iPads?

        the PalmPilot should be... that is where tablet computing began for me..

        fair enough, then the Apple Newton should be there too because "that is where tablet computing began for me" and three years earlier than the first Pilot too

        but it's all academic. the Psion Organiser is the grandfather of all of these, and that is in the article

    4. NumptyScrub
      Trollface

      Re: Hmm, iPads?

      quote: "I'd have put Apple's most recent serious innovation as the iPhone. Whilst it wasn't the first touchscreen smartphone, the UI certainly blew away all the competition, and it has certainly defined the look and style of pretty much all smartphones since."

      I'm guessing it's because putting an iPhone just underneath the Simon would invite all sort of unwelcome comparisons; the Simon has a rectangular touchscreen whose UI is a grid of icons, has rounded corners, can make phone calls... and was released in 1994, 13 years prior to the iPhone.

    5. Homer 1 Silver badge
      Paris Hilton

      "UI certainly blew away all the competition"

      Only an Apple fanboy could be blown away by "a grid of icons".

  7. David_H
    Happy

    EPSON HX-20

    Remember that the HX-20 also had two other really innovative peripherals in a portable:

    • a speech generation unit

    • a brail generator

    Its younger brother the PX-4 was used for F1 timing systems (all coded in assembler and hijacking the barcode input for timing beams, by yours truly)

    Epson also produced the QX-16 desktop on which I could run the same programs under DOS or CPM!

    And the EHT-10, a hand-held with integral printer option (much loved by traffic wardens in Westminster in the late 1980’s, and by the Concorde baggage loaders)

    Ah... life was so much simpler when a ROM disassembly was you bible!

    1. AbortRetryFail

      Re: EPSON HX-20

      My dad bought one when they were new and I used it extensively, both portable and hooked up to a telly with the very expensive external TV modulator. And later a FDD unit.

      As far as I know, it's still in a cupboard somewhere at my dad's as he rarely throws anything out.

    2. Christian Berger Silver badge

      Re: EPSON HX-20

      I've heard of a bunch of people using an HX-20 at a restaurant. When it was time to pay, they secretly rolled up the note in the printer. As the waiter came, they pressed the button and the printer spit out the note. They had a hard time getting their money accepted. :)

      Also, this is yet again one of those lazy articles. Everybody knows those old computers, and no one talks about the slightly more exotic ones back then, like the Canon Cat, which proved Apple and Microsoft wrong, by providing a user interface which was simple, efficient and powerful.

      1. asdf Silver badge
        Mushroom

        Re: EPSON HX-20

        > which proved Apple and Microsoft wrong, by providing a user interface which was simple, efficient and powerful.

        Cue the dozen Amiga tards left that all happen to also read and post on el reg.

        1. asdf Silver badge
          Trollface

          Re: EPSON HX-20

          Bah only 3 downvotes. Guess they are dying off faster than I expected.

    3. John Smith 19 Gold badge
      Thumb Up

      Re: EPSON HX-20

      That looks like quite a nice keyboard.

      I think the A4 form factor is under appreciated.

  8. Stoneshop Silver badge
    Holmes

    ZX80 [...] cased and equipped with a Qwerty keyboard

    For a sufficiently tolerant definition of "keyboard", that is.

    I'm still undecided if the Speccy's blobs of chewing gum were any sort of improvement.

    1. David Given
      Joke

      Re: ZX80 [...] cased and equipped with a Qwerty keyboard

      Those Spectrum keyboards were *brilliant*. Combined with the wedge shaped case, if you turned one over and wedged it under a door, they made superb doorstops. The rubber keys gripped the floor like nobody's business.

      1. Peter Gathercole Silver badge
        FAIL

        Re: ZX80 [...] cased and equipped with a Qwerty keyboard

        Dude. The Spectrum was not wedge shaped, unless you had an Interface 1 attached. I admit that it was lower at the front than the back, but that was because of a step in the case, bringing up the rear of the case to the same height as the top of the keys.

        The ZX81 was wedge shaped, but did not have rubber keys.

      2. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: ZX80 [...] cased and equipped with a Qwerty keyboard

        > they made superb doorstops

        So microsoft might sell a few surfaces then ?

  9. Thing

    Wot no C64?

    Greatest selling single model of any computer (until very recently being overtaken by the iPad or iPhone - AFAICR)

    1. Not_The_Droids
      Go

      Re: Wot no C64?

      We weren't a rich family, so we couldn't afford a C64. I did talk the parents in to buying me a Vic-20 though. That's how I worked on my programming skills... guess that $99 investment back in 1984 or so did pay off eventually. I still have the VIC-20, tried to power it up last year. Alas, the power supply was completely dead (and epoxy filled, so no troubleshooting available), and after figuring out an alternative, the video did not come up. Poor thing...

      1. Ole Juul Silver badge

        Re: Wot no C64?

        I'm not into those, so just the other day gave away a power supply for one of those. There were lots of Vic-20s made and despite being very collectible, they're still not too expensive. The 5150s are starting to really go up in price though. I've seen them hit several grand, though mostly just a few hundred. Anyway, hang on to your old stuff. You'll be glad you did.

      2. Jop
        Coat

        The tune from Radar Rat Race (Vic 20 cartridge game) is forever imprinted in my head...wish it wasn't!

        As another one who could not afford the C64 at the time, I ended up with a Commodore Plus/4. That should be on the history list as it had a built in word processor, spreadsheet and database thingy. None of them were very good though.

  10. Alan Bourke
    Pint

    Great to see the Archie in there.

    More red keys on keyboards please, manufacturers.

    1. Andus McCoatover
      Windows

      Red keys? Nah. Get yerself one o' these...

      http://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-ultimate-silent/

      Screws the other muppets at school when I have to go for a pee, and they wanna use my PC for 'faceboooook!'

      1. kwhitefoot
        Thumb Up

        Re: Red keys? Nah. Get yerself one o' these...

        That reminds me of my Nascom-2 which had the best keyboard I've ever used. No crappy mechanical switches in it, it had Hall effect switches if I remember right. Probably still have it somewhere, I wonder if I could get it hooked up to a PC?

    2. foo_bar_baz

      Re: Great to see the Archie in there.

      I might be off base, but to my understanding the Archimedes was pretty much limited to the UK. It did give us Virus the game, much like the BBC Micro gave us Elite - that's the extent of what we non-Brits knew about these.

      But yeah, the C64, ZX Spectrum, Amiga, Atari ST and even the various MSX compatibles would have been incluced in the list by Johnny Foreigner.

  11. Arrrggghh-otron

    Archimedes

    Glad to see the Archimedes in there. I was introduced to proper CAD on one of these cutting edge computers at School.

  12. Unicornpiss Silver badge
    WTF?

    No Commodore?

    Where's the PET, the 64, and the Amiga? Nice article, but omitting Commodore's place is like skipping the existence of several countries in a history book. The Osborne used a Commodore OS if I remember right, BTW.

    1. Stoneshop Silver badge

      Re: No Commodore?

      The Osborne ran CP/M off a floppy; the Commodores of that era all used the 6502 processor and used their own, ROM-based OSes.

    2. Chika
      Coat

      Re: No Commodore?

      In a way, agree that the 64 didn't really need to be there. It was a good computer and certainly sold plenty of units, but it broke no new ground. I'd be more likely to put an Apple II in there. As for the Amiga, this was a fairly ground breaking system and one that, like the Archimedes, could have been much better than the IBM offering if only the marketing had been right. Both were very versatile and powerful for their day, but each got sidelined into its own niche, the Acorn in education, the Amiga in gaming, both suffocated off the market as IBM and Microsoft went for the proverbial jugular. Even Apple almost failed because of that.

      As for the Pet, there always seemed to me to be a standing battle between the various CBM Pets and the Apple II. I always liked the look of the Pet, with the monitor design and (on some models) the built in tape drive, but I also liked the Apple II with its flip up back end. Pity both were so bloody expensive in the UK!

      1. stewski

        Re: No Commodore?

        In the UK the Amiga was the shiz.

        Frankly for £400 notes, it smoked the apples and IBMs of its day and if you liked parallax scrolling and shallow game play shadow of the beast was your man.

        68000 and numerous specialised processing units killed the competition, now it's clear that symmetric multi cores arent the way forward with moores in mind, the Amigas design philosophy may prove more important than even the genius arm of the Archimedes.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: No Commodore?

        Have to disagree about the Apple II. The Commodore Pet was a much more important machine, released first and sold many more units than the Apple II ever did. It was the world's first personal computer.

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Thumb Up

    Ah, the ZX80 ...

    What a piece of extra-ordinary crap that delighted and amazed me. I went onto the zx81 and the spectrum.

    All of them were flimsy, prone to crashing due to poorly constructed ram expansion packs and power leads, but my god, between them and the many other personal computers available in the 80's they unleashed thousands and thousands of programmers onto the world.

    I spent countless hours hunched over these lumps of plastic with ridiculously bad keyboards, punching in line after line of machine code from a magazine. The frustration at the program not working, only to be informed in the following months magazine that there was a critical bug didn't deter me.

    The family dog or cat brushing past the ram expansion pack ending up with the loss of 5 hours work? Well, start again.

    The tapes not loading or saving properly, the discovery that the cheapest tape deck you could get with the highest tinny sound was far better than an expensive one. Cheap, nasty, frustrating and ultimately, a whole lot of blood, sweat tears and eventually, fun.

    So, what do I do now?

    Well, I spend countless hours in front of a screen being frustrated by html, css, php, postgres for a living.

    30 years later and the only thing that's changed is it's faster, more comfortable and the hardware is a damn side more reliable.

    Long live the memory of the ZX80, but don't expect me to ever use one in anger ever again, even as an emulator :)

    1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

      Re: Ah, the ZX80 ...

      >30 years later and the only thing that's changed is it's faster, more comfortable and the hardware is a damn >side more reliable.

      But now the operating system, programming language and frameworks are

      "Cheap, nasty, frustrating and ultimately, a whole lot of blood, sweat tears and eventually, fun."

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    No Spectrum 48K, Amiga 500 or Atari?

    These affordable computers were what got many kids into the subject, I began programming on a 48K Spectrum

  15. Peter Gathercole Silver badge

    "the then vogue for Reduced Instruction Set Computing (Risc)"

    It was not just a vogue. It was necessary to push computing performance forward. If there had not been RISC architectures at the time, then I believe that computing history would have been different, and would probably not be nearly so advanced as it is now. Not that this is all to do with the ARM. MIPS, SPARC, Precision Architecture and POWER all had their parts to play in frightening the CISC manufactures into pushing performance up.

    The transistor budget for the ARM 1 was, I believe, 25,000 transistors. At the same time, the 80386 had a transistor budget of 275,000. In these days of billions of transistors per die, it is easy to forget the fabrication limitations of the day.

    If the ARM had been a CISC architecture, it would either not have competed with other processors in the market, or would have been too complex for a small organisation like Acorn to have been able to develop and produce. It's very existence was conditioned on it being a RISC processor.

    The fact that it was a 32 bit architecture, used ridiculously low amounts of power, and still beat the pants off a 80386 processor in performance were the reason why it's descendants are still around now.

    1. Chika
      Trollface

      Re: "the then vogue for Reduced Instruction Set Computing (Risc)"

      "If the ARM had been a CISC architecture..."

      ...then it would have been called an ACM. Not as catchy, really! ;)

      (yours aye, Fred, Jim and Sheila!)

      1. Peter Gathercole Silver badge

        Re: "the then vogue for Reduced Instruction Set Computing (Risc)"

        Yes. I did think that while I was writing it. Maybe I should have said "If the processor now known as ARM had been a CISC architecture...".

        Regards to Fred, Jim and Sheila from the 6522, 6845 and the rest of the chips especially the Ferranti ULA.

  16. Matt Bucknall
    Thumb Up

    How have I not seen an EPSON HX-20 before? That's incredible for 1981.

  17. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    tablet evolution

    The idea of tablet devices goes way back, some of us have been waiting for viable technology since the 90s. The problem has been no more complex that the power/performance/weight characteristics and the solution has been time and hard work by lots of people, its not just about headline grabbers.

    I recall a long conversation in 2006 on the topic and the consensus seemed to be feasibility for mass market tablets would be around the Intel 22nm node so somewhere between 2011-2013 when the devices would start to take off. The assumption was a continuation of Intel dominance over CPU. Where we got it wrong was not expecting the early use of ARM in the 2010 iPad which was certainly an early game changer. Thats an interesting thing about history, some fairly inconsequential causes can make for big effects. The what ifs - would Apple have waited a year instead of launching the underpowered but fun iPad 1 if Jobs was not so conscious of his own health and mortality? IMO iPad is mainly interesting because it jumped the gun, and most significant by raising the game in the Intel/ARM wars.

    After 30 years in the business, I've found crystal ball gazing is usually pretty obvious, just look at what drives the hardware parameters and consider what is pleasant to use. Look beyond this years gadget and the flavour of the month.

    Fun to see the retrospectives. How about some future looking topics?

  18. Sir Crispalot
    FAIL

    Reg can't count

    I know El Reg has it's own unique measures, but surely they're not trying to redefine the natural number sequence as 16, 18, 17, 19 and 20?

    1. Sir Crispalot
      Headmaster

      *its* own

      Before someone else tells me off.

  19. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    That old IBM keyboard...

    Ah, the nostalgia - just looking at a picture of it I can hear it now. I would love to buy one of the modern versions, but somehow I doubt my colleagues would appreciate the racket...

    1. Chika
      Mushroom

      Re: That old IBM keyboard...

      It could be worse. Ever typed on a teletype? It's an experience!

      1. Ole Juul Silver badge

        Re: That old IBM keyboard...

        It could be worse.

        What do you mean worse? Lots of us won't compromise - regardless of the noise. The model M is still made by Unicomp and the old ones are much used. I'm typing on a 1984 model M right now. I actually have a number of them stashed away in case this one wears out - but it's still as good as new. I thought I was prudent, but I'm probably just a hoarder.

        I suppose the teletype could be worse, never tried one, but the manual typewriters we all learnt on were definitely unmanageable by modern standards. After all these years I recently thought I'd give my 1940's Underwood a try and was seriously considering using my elbows. I'm glad Underwood didn't make a mouse - you'd probably need an assistant.

    2. John 104

      Re: That old IBM keyboard...

      @AC Oh my GOSH those were loud!

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: That old IBM keyboard...

      The old IBM PC keyboards were fun to fix/clean, after removing all the keys and sliding the keyboard "sandwich" apart all the springs and components that made the clacking noise went all over my workbench....

      So - talking of CP/M as some are, no mention of the Sirius S1, that ran CPM? No Mention of Commodore PET's either.. :0(

  20. richard 7
    Thumb Down

    What no CBM?

    The C64, PET and Amiga were all big game changers, arguably more so than some of the machines mentioned. Any particular reason that you've just ignored a massive chunk of history? See no Beeb or Atari either.

  21. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Handheld computer

    The Sharp PC-1210 predated the Psion Organiser by ~4 years. The TRS-80 PC-1 (relabeled PC-1211) was released shortly after the PC-1210 and was most likely the first widely available handlheld (the Sharp models were hard to find in stores, at least in the US).

    The TRS-80 PC-2, PC-3, and PC-4 were also released before the Organiser.

  22. Johan Bastiaansen
    WTF?

    What? no minis?

    Why isn't the IBM 360, Vax or Wang VS or 2200 mentioned?

    These are the machines that made a lot of ordinary people aware they could type on a television.

    1. Kubla Cant Silver badge

      Re: What? no minis?

      No minis, because it's a history of personal computing. I don't know about the others you mention, but you'd have had to be a power-hungry millionaire with good air conditioning and plenty of space* to use an early VAX as a PC.

      * now I think about it, is there any other kind of millionaire?

      1. Johan Bastiaansen
        Happy

        Re: What? no minis?

        No no, the point is that they went from Zuse, Colossus, Eniac, Leo & Dec: hardware that could only be afforded by nations and the biggest companies to the desktop. But there was a decade where the average Joe couldn't afford a computer, but the medium company where he worked would have a Wang 2200.

        In my first job as engineer I had a Wang 2200 with just 1 terminal. So it really was a personal computer.

        When I started to work in IT, we were still replacing Wang 2200 with 4-8 terminals with a PC network and that was frequently used by small to midsized engineering firms with 4 to 20 employees. That was about 25 years ago.

        Ah, the niakwa fingerprint. And the horror when the floppy got lost ! ! !

        A decent Compaq with 386 processor and 640k would set you back around € 5.000. An extra € 1.000 for the full 1MB. An extra € 1.000 for a 287 coprocessor. Remember when you weren't supposed to want a coprocessor because you already had a 386 so what more could you want?

        And if you want a 13" screen, that would cost an extra € 1.000.

        And the margin on this hardware was 40-50%.

        Looking back, developing software was just an excuse to sell the hardware. And most of these smaller software companies got stung when the PC became widely available and cheap.

        I remember IT fairs where the visitors were packed shoulder to shoulder and they could only move forward when they guy in front of them would. And he wouldn't because he was staring in awe at your mouse and 16" color monitor.

        And back at the office he would be working on a monochrome mini terminal. Probably shared by 4 colleagues.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Coat

          Re: What? no minis?

          "In my first job as engineer I had a Wang 2200 with just 1 terminal."

          Ah, I had a big ol' Wang at one point, but it wasn't good for much any more and I never would have used it anyway.

  23. Anonymous Coward
    Happy

    Atari ST for its contribution to music

    I'd like to have seen the Atari ST in here for no other reason that it was the first reasonably priced computer to have a MIDI port and a way to do something useful with it. There were a *lot* of STs floating around recording studios in the late 80s and I'm sure that the pop music of the time would have sounded very different without people being able to noodle around a sequencer and drum machine on their 'tari.

  24. Corborg
    Holmes

    Osborne

    "Luggable" is the title of the genre omitted, and the one the Osborne falls into.

  25. Martipar
    Unhappy

    What no Atari

    The Atari Portfolio should be here, between the Psion Organiser and Simon, the first ms-dos compatible handheld computer, ran dos 2.0 IIRC. Used in Terminator2

  26. 0_Flybert_0
    Headmaster

    proof read please

    "NASA" not Nasa

    "RISC" not Risc

    C-64 should be in there for sure .. great game machine at the time as well

    1. John 62

      Re: proof read please

      It is curious that US newspapers often put in full stops in initialisms, whereas British newspapers make them into new words. I prefer the middle ground you espouse.

  27. Andus McCoatover
    Joke

    Phoar, them were the days...

    Accoustic modem, Radio Shack TRS80, trying to watch pr0n on't command line. Luxury!

  28. jason 7
    Devil

    No iPaq?

    I remember when they came out they really had some buzz behind them.

    Folks were buying cheap flight tickets cos the only place you could buy them still in stock was Dixons at Heathrow or Gatwick.

    Okay so 8 months later I had a dozen dead ones sitting in my work drawer...but......

    1. The Infamous Grouse
      Thumb Up

      Re: No iPaq?

      My wife still uses a 2004-vintage hx4700 iPAQ to check her incoming e-mail and calendar entries. It sits in a dock cradle, permanently powered, running a program that displays upcoming appointments on the home screen. She can walk past, tap the screen with a fingernail to wake it, glance at what's coming up and walk on. Much quicker than powering up a laptop, even from sleep, or using one of many iDevices.

      It syncs with Google Calendar over WiFi, but to make that work securely I had to install a custom firmware so it could talk WPA2 with my router. HP's own firmware was never happy with WPA2. Heaven knows what I'm going to replace it with if it ever gives up the ghost, or WPA2 is rendered obsolete by a more secure protocol.

      Now I come to think of it, at 8 years it's currently tied in second place for the longest continuously used computer I've owned. Joint second is a ZX Spectrum I got in 1983 and sold in 1991.

      First place goes to a BBC Master, bought by a friend in 1986, given to me in the early 1990s and used to put title cards on VHS videos right up to 2000. 14 years.

      I just got a 4th gen iPad. It's lovely, but I can't imagine I'll be doing anything useful with it in 14 years.

  29. The Infamous Grouse
    Unhappy

    Psion

    Nice to see an Organiser in this list, but a little dismissive to suggest that Psion "shifted away from organiser functionality" with the Series 3 / 5 / 7.

    While it's true that the general purpose programming environment was a boon to those of a creative inclination, the Psions' real strength lay in the Data and Agenda applications built into SIBO and EPOC. To this day Agenda remains the most useful and efficient Personal Information Manager I've used on any platform. And I've used many.

    All of the basic functions were right there and blindingly efficient in their implementation. And for those features not baked in, a third-party macro program to simulate key presses and a bit of OPL code and you could have new functionality programmed in within minutes. Try doing that on an iPhone.

    Psion's downfall was in treating their devices as accessories to the computing experience rather than alternatives. Even on the later models with basic internet features like e-mail and web browsers, it was all about syncing data with desktop machines. And using mobile phones and modems with legacy serial and IR connections while everyone else's technology was evolving, although they may not have realised it, towards the integrated smartphone. The Nokia Communicators were a hint of the way things were going, but nobody really picked up the ball and ran with it.

    If Psion had read the market better we could have had a colour EPOC machine in a Series 5 form factor with WiFi and cellular connectivity and Bluetooth for voice calls, beating the iPhone by several years. But alas it was not meant to be.

    Even a recent attempt to resurrect the form factor misses the point by having it run on Windows XP :(

  30. Infernoz Bronze badge
    Meh

    Only a tiny subset, including some complete junk

    I've used the Commodore PET (at school), VIC-20, C64, Amiga 500 and Amiga 1200, but saw none of these then amazing machines listed, WTF!

    The VIC-20 and C64 stomped all over Sinclair's Z80 rubbish; none of his amateurish stuff ever interested me.

    The Amiga 500 and Amiga 1200 made the Atari ST look stupid, and kept me going into the age of cheap PCs.

    If Commodore had not been so blinkered, they could have taken the Amiga much further, rather than getting side tracked onto consoles.

    The Archimedes like the BBC B was WAY too expensive for what you got, so I never even considered them.

    It is a crying shame that the nasty instruction sets and system buses of the Z80 and 'x86' CPUs were chosen instead of the 6502 and 680x0 family, fortunately the descendant ARM CPU now owns the mobile sector, and will hopefully soon be nipping at the heals of the x86 family, for the server sector.

    In my opinion Microsoft and others are still catching up with ideas in the Amiga OS and software, and still haven't caught up in some areas! I have used GP Software Directory Opus since the Amiga and now on Windows machines, because it still blows away all other Directory tools, especially the pathetic Windows Explorer.

    I have no plans to own any Apple hardware, the only Apple machine which ever impressed me was the Apple 1, the Macintosh was horrible, the rest is quite frankly over priced junk.

  31. Unicornpiss Silver badge
    Pint

    Alternate reality?

    It's too bad Jack Tramiel of Commodore was such a greedy, megalomaniac scumbag, or it's arguable that we'd be using Commodore hardware specs and 68000 architecture instead of x86. Commodore almost had the whole deal back in the 80s, and it was mostly the divisive work environment and opposing viewpoints of what the "mission" should be that killed them. I think a history of Commodore should be required reading for any CIO that's considering making major changes. I see echoes of it in Microsoft, and ripples of it emerging at Apple these days without Steve Jobs to hold Apple on course. (not that Mr. Jobs would win any humanitarian awards in the grand scheme of things)

    But it would be interesting to see what the computing environment and the world at large would have evolved into after a few decades if Commodore had made some better decisions. Forget going back in time and stopping the Kennedy assassination---go back in time and prevent Jack Tramiel from being such a dick.

  32. Nev Silver badge
    FAIL

    The Lack of Commodore kit...

    ... in this article is appalling.

    1. Furbian
      Thumb Up

      Re: The Lack of Commodore kit...

      Indeed. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the Amiga was the best computer ever, when you compare it with what went before. It had a proper four channel sound synthesiser, could stick a good few colours on screen at a decent resolution (not counting the static 4096 colour HAM mode), and had hardware sprites and a 'blitter' to boot. I suspect younger readers will think the former is a fizzy drink and will have no idea what the latter is.

      This was the only time I used a machine and was in awe of, I wanted one, but couldn't afford the £1000 odd the first Amiga 1000 cost. Even the Micro Live reviewer couldn't contain himself saying how stunning it was when reviewing it. The Atari ST I had shared the same sound-chip as the ZX Spectrum 128K (an 8-bit oldie, i.e. not very good) and no dedicated graphics hardware, the PC's as far as I can remember were still in the beeper (Soundblaster etc. came much later) and 16 colour EGA era.

      Has there been such a big jump since? I doubt it.

      1. Jop

        Re: The Lack of Commodore kit...

        The Amiga was one of the few that were genuinely ahead of their time. A history of personal computing without mentioning at least one of the Commodore machines is flawed!

        Workbench was so much better than the Macs gui in term of flexibility and speed even though both were developed around the same time.

        Not to mention how many music genres came about simply due to the progression from Soundtracker/Octomed on the Amiga. Also the cheap CGI that it enabled thanks to the genlock stuff, which was used in films, overlays for weather forecasts and all sorts. The newtek video toaster and HAM never failed to impress anyone who saw it in action. Nasa used Amigas for space shuttle launch stuff too.

        The Pet or Amiga (or both) should defo be on the list.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: The Lack of Commodore kit...

        "...hardware sprites and a 'blitter' to boot. I suspect younger readers will think the former is a fizzy drink and will have no idea what the latter is."

        Pah. Too easy. Tell me what coppers and bobs are, and I'll give you credit for obscure graphics terminology knowledge!

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  33. BBC32K

    I agree with Furbian - the Amiga 1000 should be in here prominently. Owning a 32K 8bit BBC B in 1985, and going to a demonstration of the Amiga in Sydney, I was completely blown away by its capabilities. One part of the demonstration by Neriki (who made genlocks in Australia) had a photo of the Sydney city skyline in Deluxe Paint. Amazing enough to have a clear, detailed digitized image on a computer screen in 1985, but the demonstrator then erased a building from the skyline.

    With amazing graphical capabilities, 4 channel stereo sound that the demonstrator compared favourably with a 1980s era Fairlight synthesizer, and a multi-tasking operating system, the Amiga 1000 was without doubt the first true epoch-making Multimedia computer. I'm at a loss as to why the Amiga is forgotten so much these days by computer historians and museums in general.

    I have an original Amiga 1000, along with a bunch of 1980s-1980s computers (I also love Acorn computers, especially the BBC), and you can clearly see the purity of design of the whole machine. It made the Macintosh look primitive by comparison.

  34. graeme leggett Silver badge

    Amiga A500 and Atari ST together

    Since together they were the next step on the road to where we are now.

    Both using the same processor and appealing to the same Market. One had the edge in graphics the other in music creation (out of the box).

    Usable as was but still tweak-able/adaptable to spawn a thousand peripherals. I can confess to throwing money away at the video camera add on with it's filters to do colour image capture. The back up to VCR was more practical though.

    One aspect fortunately not touched on is price. Although Amigas and the like were cheap compared to an IBM pc what the same money would buy today is beyond compare.

  35. HippyFreetard

    They Live!

    I had an Acorn Electron, and used BBC's in school, then Archimedes' in high school. I remember seeing my first PC and wondering where the mouse was! I think the Raspberry Pi is a direct descendent of the BBC - didn't Acorn sort of become ARM, which is what the Pi is based on? And the Pi's creator cited inspiration from the BBC machines he used as a kid. Superior Software (who made Repton) still lives - you can buy Repton games for iPad now...

    Also, really nice to see the C64 has been reborn as C64x - a 64-bit Linux (Mint?) PC in the shape of a keyboard, just like the original C64. Even has the option to boot to a classic C64.

    AmigaOS last updated? Two months ago.

    I think I was really lucky to have been growing up at a time when computers were just simple enough that a 10-year-old could write machine code, while being just complex enough for that to be a worthwhile endeavour :)

  36. Dan 55 Silver badge
    WTF?

    Wot no... Z88

    I suppose the typical home computers have been left out as we've just had the 30-year anniversary articles, but I would have expected to see a Z88 there, which was more than a Psion Organiser, smaller than a tank (laptop of the times), and turned out to be successful enough to be considered mass-market.

  37. Richard 15

    I'm surprised that the Apple ][ /][+ is not listed.

    While the earlier machines were hobbyist things, the Apple ][ had VisiCalc back in 1979.

    I even remember IBM making what was effectively an Apple ][ on a board so that you could use

    the peripherals that you had purchased for the Apple. Many of the games and business programs

    existed on the Apple long before their equivalents came out on the IBM PC. IBM made the market

    big, but Apple created the market via the spread sheet and the ability to do custom printing by

    yourself at a fraction of the cost. One decent size print job paid for the printer + software, a few also

    paid the cost of the computer.

    I actually worked for a small company in the 90's that were using Apple ][ gs's with built in hard drives

    and "accelerators" which could be hooked up via a special interface set up with a PC to transfer data

    back and forth.

  38. Christopher Blackmore
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    The other one you forgot.

    Nascom. The one you had to build from a kit. I started with a Nascom 1, put it in a big rack frame, and extended, and extended. Upgraded to a Nascom 2, extended some more. I'd go on, but nobody these days knows why a Pluto card was amazing...

  39. Lloyd
    Stop

    Come on now

    What about the Research Machines 380Z? It was the precursor to the BBC Micro in most UK schools.

  40. CyberWitch
    Unhappy

    Compaq

    Sad to see that Compaq was not included. It is Compaq's 30th birthday this week.

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