And so it starts... Nokia once the mobile phone paragon of battery life and power efficiency reduced to reliance on MS for patches.
Nokia has pledged to release a software update early next month that will begin to fix the rapidly depleting battery woes some Lumia 800 owners have experienced. In a Nokia support forum posting made today, the company said: "A software update in early December will include improvements to power efficiency, while a second …
Thursday 24th November 2011 20:31 GMT Ru
You assume this is an MS issue
It could easily be an issue with Nokia's own drivers, services or configuration stuff.
I don't recall their smartphone range ever managing particularly exciting uptimes... the S60 E-series just about managed it, but only just... and they tended to be bulkier and siginificantly more expensive than their consumer-oriented counterparts. The Lumia is certainly one of those.
Thursday 24th November 2011 20:31 GMT Insane Reindeer
Not so fast...
I don't see HTC notifying customers of a forth coming battery boost. I think you will find that this is Nokia tweaking the hardware to software interface of their own phones at such a low level as to leave the main Microsoft provided layer, the one HTC will have, well enough alone.
Thursday 24th November 2011 20:31 GMT Anonymous Coward
Thursday 24th November 2011 20:31 GMT Tezfair
1 day old and 2 updates
Got to be Windows.
I had the 800 yesterday and I hate the OS. 500 features? more like 500 other things removed from 6.5.
Guess my lads getting a new mobile, im going back to my HD2.
No remote desktop
No simple way to get to the outlook subfolders
Constantly flickering tiles (not wonder the batteries flat its always jiggling the screen)
The list goes on
still, when its turned off it look nice
Thursday 24th November 2011 20:31 GMT Richard Plinston
Friday 25th November 2011 08:52 GMT Fuzz
Where's your troll icon?
I don't know why Nokia have chosen not to include tethering, my HTC mozart received an update last week that included it, wifi hotspot for 5 users, works really well.
"No remote desktop"
There are at least two native RD apps in the marketplace, both of which are far superior to the built in client in 6.5. Like all phone RD apps they are essentially useless on such a small screen.
"No simple way to get to the outlook subfolders"
From the email screen, hit folders then subfolders and the list appears, you can choose to sync a folder with your phone, you can even choose to pin the folder as a tile on the start screen so one click takes you straight there and the tile shows the number of new messages in that folder.
"Constantly flickering tiles (not wonder the batteries flat its always jiggling the screen)"
You do realise the tiles only animate whilst you're looking at them, they don't do it for their own amusement in the background whilst you're doing something else or the phone is in your pocket.
Friday 25th November 2011 14:04 GMT kris5579
it does have tethering! Plus, tethering on the iPhone requires operator "permission" where they charge you loads more. buy hey, that's slightly off-topic.
it does have remote desktop.
Constantly changing tiles - well what about your constantly dull icons? iPhone/Android (which I'm going to call iAndone because I'm cool and set trends) has the kind of start screen I remember from Windows 3.1.
Why would you want Outlook folders? I don't know what they are and i don't think anybody else knows or for that matter cares. Flebbing el. Kinnamortis.
much love, with your totally-fragmented-market-place iAndone.
Thursday 24th November 2011 20:32 GMT Anonymous Coward
Thursday 24th November 2011 20:32 GMT Jonathan Cohen
Bugs in a Nokia?
Actually, I've always found Nokia phones ridiculously buggy. To list the last few I've had:
N95 - Took about 2 years of updates after release before it was really stable.
E71 - Mail for Exchange (it's main selling point) could never be relied on to sync properly.
N97 - This phone was just broken by design in every respect. Even setting ring tones didn't work.
E5 - Random freezing when answering calls yet the other party can still hear you swearing at the phone!
Note that I only bought the E5 last year because of it's HD Voice support and really did hold off buying an iPhone as long as I could. However now, Nokia... never ever again.
I'll take a phone that just works (even if it has major features such as SMS delivery reports and HD voice missing) over anything from a company that spews out unusable tick box feature phones but can't solve basic issues (let alone have any concept of usability) two years after release on all their flagship products. Not to mention having to change product codes and generally waste time like this just to get any updates or support at all! I suspect adding MS as a third party really will make this even worse for Nokia.
Thursday 24th November 2011 20:32 GMT Daniel Bower
Friday 25th November 2011 06:35 GMT MacroRodent
But the Nokia:s stabilize eventually
Re: "N97 - This phone was just broken by design in every respect. Even setting ring tones didn't work."
I have the N97 mini, the slightly modified version (bough second-hand), and guess what? I'm very happy with it. One of the most useful items I own. Software updates have solved the earlier bugs and stability problems, at least I have not encountered many (sometimes there is "out of memory", but then the phone has usually been continuously on for over a week).
As I see it, the REAL problem is that Nokia (and all other manufacturers as well) are pushed by market pressures to release the phones long before they are ready!
To work out the final kinks so that the phone performs exactly as it should would require months of massive beta use and fixing, then more testing, and they cannot afford that. The battery problems are a brilliant example: something that a too short testing period does not necessarily detect.
So if you want a smartphone that actually works, buy it second-hand about a year after it was released (like I did), then apply all available software fixes. Does not matter if it was initially labeled a turkey, it isn't necessarily so after the fixes, and when you buy second-hand, you avoid those individuals with gross manufacturing errors.
But the phone makers really, really would not like people to behave like this...
Friday 25th November 2011 05:06 GMT kris5579
I love my Lumia! I have an iPhone 4, Samsung Galaxy S with Android 3 and a HTC Titan (need them for my job, I'm an app dev) and the Lumia is by far the best. The iPhone is just plain dull and the Galaxy S is just an iPhone clone. Lumia has definitely the most unique design and it's waaay better than iPhone or Android. What Android OR iPhone can you search directly from a hardware button on Bing? What other phone can you put your best friends updates on your home screen? What other phone lets you see everything at a glance when you unlock it and even on the lock screen? What other phone is so easy to use that mum can use it. what other phone let's me use it as a remote control for my Xbox? Oh yeah none. You're all just jealous because WP rocks. Take care, much love with your sucky-i-have-to-go-into-an-app-to-find-out-stuff boring Android and iPhone phones. Xx
Saturday 26th November 2011 00:48 GMT Anonymous Coward
I was holding out for the new WP Nokia, I really was.
You see I like Nokia's design and hardware and overall reliability and WP's nice fluent UI. I wanted it to win hearts and sell well. Even though I use Android. Not a fanboy, that's me. Very low fidelity and faithfulness on tech stuff.
Awww Nokia.. Not the battery.. Not you too...