Didn't get a review machine I see
I love the fact that the reviewer has clearly just wandered down to the Regent St apple store and had a play around with one of the desk models :)
Shows an enterprising spirit!
Let's get the hard part out of the way at the start. The new MacBook Air isn't a cheap computer, and was never going to be. If you're the sort to throw a fit because you can by a 15in octo-core über machine for half the 850 quid Apple wants for the even most basic, smallest Air, stop reading now. Let me assure you, your …
1. Ferrari are crap, need service every 6000km and light up like matches, thanks to the Fiat design team (Fiat Bravo/Brava's were dangerous as they tended to light up on motorways, now Ferari is recalling thousands of their latest models, as they light up for unexplained reasons - some owners were told it was their driving and did not get replacement!!!!!!!!!!!)
2. Skoda's are better than any Italian, French, or American-designed/built car of its category ... Fuck, they are built with the same parts as Audi's.
So, although you seem to know your way around computers, stop using cars for analogy, as you clearly have no clue ....
Atom to c2d is like a Reliant Robin compared to a VW Golf ...
"About the same size" is obviously newspeak for "nearly twice the thickness and nearly 50% heavier", then? As to performance, well, I'm quite sure a dual-core Atom will just wipe the floor with Core2Duo.
* before the PC police shoot me in the face, it's a bloody meme, I just substituted the nasty word for a more acceptable phrase.
"If you're the sort to throw a fit because you can by a 15in octo-core über machine for half the 850 quid Apple wants for the even most basic, smallest Air, stop reading now. Let me assure you, your prejudices will be reinforced."
...but no...you had to come in and comment anyway.
You should probably highlight the downsides of a Hackintosh before evangelising them too btw. You and I have built 'em and know the pitfalls, but Joe Public is probably nowhere near technical enough to build one himself.
Did you read the review at all???
I was going to post how great and balanced a review it was, hopefully quashing the usual slatings, but no.... still they trudge in.
I love the product, but have no requirement for one that i couldn't fix with my iPad or MBP, but i know of many folk who'd love one, my other half at uni for instance, to complement her iMac!
Geeze. IT IS NOT A NETBOOK. Netbooks DO NOT HAVE REAL GPUS! Netbooks don't even have Core2Duos... This is an Ultra-compact machine, that is a (near) full performance business laptop with some ability to game and work with high rez video too. This also has a better-than 720p (by a lot, 900v lines actually) screen.
If you want an over glorified 4lb typewriter with a low res screen under $400, go fucking by one. If you want a machine that is ultra portable (fits INSIDE a folio with the pad of paper!) that doesn't also require you to have a second computer somewhere else, then this is not only one of the few options, it's actually one of the cheapest and at the top of performance in it's class.
Instant on it not a bad deal either.
Note: the author tested return from "sleep" but he did NOT note suspend resume time. The MBA supports multiple modes of operation, including off, sleep, and STANDBY. In standby resume is less than 1 second (because it was never asleep, but in fact CONTINUALLY ON in a very low power state, still using wifi, for as long as 30 days!) That's a HUGE selling point to a business person who now could walk around with a notebook under their arm and still get notification alerts not just from e-mail, but inter-office chat applications or other applications as well.
The £850 version is alright, but if you're going to bother with Apple kit at that level, you'd be mad not to bump the SSD to 128GB (not only more space but better performance to boot), the RAM, and the CPU - you can get the 1.6GHz Core 2 Duo in the 128GB model. Sure, it's £310 more, but if money's an issue what the hell are you doing buying Apple gear in the first place?
(You should probably also drop the £200 that the AppleCare/3 year warranty will cost, but that has its own issues like Apple's refusal to offer on-site NBD service for its portable units...)
Why can't I upgrade the processor in the 11" 64GB? I can understand that form factor / cooling MAY have something to do with not offering the 2.13GHz C2D, but at least offer the 1.6 or 1.86 without forcing me to order storage I don't need.
I would like a small/light form laptop but 1.4GHz C2D doesn't do it for me. Checking out Atom benchmarks just makes me sad, and I don't want to fork out for a Vaio Z.
I agree entirely, and as far as I can tell it's just a case of Apple being dicks and forcing you to buy something expensive you don't need in order to get something else that you do want. In the same way as you can only bump up to the 1.6GHz C2D if you buy the model with the 128GB SSD, you can get the 2.13GHz C2D in the 13.3" version - but only if you go for the 256GB model.
The starting weight on the 11.6" MBA is basically 1kg. The 13.3" MBA is ~1.3kg. The 13.3" MBP is 2kg.
Doesn't sound like much, but from what I can tell anything past 1.5kg is generally perceived as being too heavy, or at least beyond the desirable weight.
Don't forget you've also got to factor in the £280 you have to add to the 13" MBP's baseline price if you want to have a 128GB SSD rather than a 5400rpm HDD.
It is extremely nice and follows the MBP styling. The keyboard has been around for a couple of years on the MacBook pro and is great to use and not cheap looking at all. The only downside to the new air keyboard is the lack of backlighting which is a shame.
The machine feels rock solid and the Airs and MBPs are clearly the finest physically engineered laptops around.
because you still have a PHONE? It does tether ya know... Tethering with any smart phone (which you would already have if your the class of person to buy an ultra-compact like this!), is the more logical choice.
but consider the business use case. This is an inter-office machine first, and a coffee-stop/airport/hotel ultra-light work on the go machine, not a i want to take a working lunch in the park machine. The always on (standby) mode is one of its strongest selling points. You're using this on the corporate or campus network already in most cases. People who spend $400-600 premiums cs a machine that weighs less than 2 lbs more do so for specific reasons.
Oh, and not one mac, not ONE, has integrated 3G/4G. Its not an option. Must be done via USB.
Also, are you seriously suggestion apple actually embed a carrier specific component in a machine!?!?! wtf would I want to be tied to one provider (and complicate the line by having carrier model options for alternatives). Plus, they'll give me a free 3G/4G adapter if I sign a plan, the one in the machine is not free (of COMITS you to a plan). And a USB 4G adapter only drains my battery when i need it, and fits on a keychain. this really is a non-issue....
the amount of times Ive needed to use the internet without having to bother with locating wifi details from busy people that dont care... Built in 3G is a deal breaker in any new laptop, its just so easy to just dial up without tethering or messing about with dongles...
3G doesnt have to be carrier dependant too... the GOBI card in my toughbook is sim unlocked, I just pop a random SIM inside and away i go!
I like the air, but i wouldnt buy one, it woldnt take the abuse I bestow on a laptop, or have the necessary runtime, but even so, 3G is a silly thing to loose on a business machine, that and biometric scanner...
Here it would be UMTS now and LTE next year. What shall they put in?
A cheap USB Dongle gives you all the future possibilities, a built in UMT/GPRS chip might be obsolete in 18 month.
And if you're like me, you have a dataoption on your mobile contract anyways, so tethering is a valid option.
The computer I am typing this from is an ultralight HP with integrated 3G. SIM slot behind the battery, and it's away.
If you were to read the T&Cs of your mobile contract, you would find that tethering is against them (unless you have a specific contract with tethering in mind).
As I previously used a PCMCIA 3G card, I have to say that reception is far better with integrated 3G as they can put better aerials into the machine. Long gone are the days of reaching into my laptop case and pulling out the big aerial.
So, no integrate 3G = fail.
What, £1100 for an ultra-thin 11" notebook PC with just 64GB SSD and 2GB RAM?
What kind of idiot would pay for that?
No, I'm not talking about the Air, I'm talking about it's direct competitor, the Sony Vaio X. Which only has a 1.86Ghz Atom, as opposed to the Air's Core Duo.
Makes the £850 Air seem pretty good value, doesn't it.
If the original Airbook had been this 11.6" model then I might have been tempted. At the time I was looking at replacing my previous laptop, which is used mainly for travel, and not only was weight important, but also size. While I like and am happy to use Windows, I'm also happy to give OSX a try, but at the time it was too large and far too expensive, where as this is about right, just possibly a little too much for me cost wise (I sitll use a desktop at home so can't justify spending a lot on a laptop that will only be used for 4 or 5 weeks of the year).
I think the fact it's got a second USB port is a good thing, but the lack of an ethernet port would also be a killer for me. Sure I've got wireless at home, but not all the hotels I've stayed in have, and some where I've had both options, the wireless has been shaky or poor reception.
... to find an interest in those things. Especially the smallest of the two, but then, my eyes fall on my asus eeepc 900A, and I can't see how I could get rid of it.
Granted, the hardware is - as someone elegantly put it already - a piece of shite. The plastic is flimsy. The battery protrudes. It's thick. And surprisingly heavy for its diminutive size. Not because it's well engineered mind you, one of the track pad mouse button gave up after two years.
But It cost me - 2 years ago - less than half of those 850$, the screen is adequate and it's got 3 USB ports and a SD reader. Its little atom for sure is no power house but it runs Fedora 13 KDE spin with all bells and whistles, and the intel graphic chip handles all I throw at it (mostly aero-like GUI effects). What I use it for is unloading pictures from my camera, making minor edits (on 16 bits raw) in the process before feeding my full workflow back home, and saving the result to a 2.5" HDD while I'm traveling.
I pack it along a hard cover novel : they're about the same size (the apple wouldn't fit in the bag in that space). I hook it to a monitor via the included SVGA port. I then plug a full format keyboard and any usb mouse (often borrowed on location). This leaves me 1 USB free for the HDD, the SD reader for my camera's memory card, and I'm set to work.
Feature wise, this leaves the Apple dead in the water, and completely useless to me. Aptly, someone compared it to a Ferrari : the perfect garage queen.
If you can get buy with an atom, no GPU, the extra dimensions, the shitty ass 600v line screen, et al, all well and good.
THIS machine is for the real business people who can NOT. It runs real business apps without stuttering, can run a VM on top of that as well, boots in seconds not minutes, weighs less, is smaller, has a great 900v line screen, wifi N, bluetooth, SDXC slot supporting up to 1TB cards when they're released and up to class 16 devices, can drive a 30" cinema display, plays MMOs and even more graphically intense games, can EDIT not just play 1080P video, and multitasks like an atom can only dream of.
THIS is a business machine, or an ultra-compact media machine. People pay $1400 for one because there is not other machine in this class that can do a fraction of those things, let alone all of them. It is a machine that does not REQUIRE you to also have another "real" PC in addition to it (and 2x of each software license, 2X the patching time, 2X the hassle, and issue syncing data between them).
These will fly off shelves, the vast majority being reporters, field photographers, corporate America, and students. BTW: you can;t bring an Atom CPU on most campuses in this country at all. If it won't run Windows 7 Pro (as is necessary to join a managed domain), you can not access campus systems, and thus can not do homework, access presentation material, schedule a class, and more. Check the incoming student CPU requirements of almost any major university. the 2 here in town have on their site "Can I use a NetBook?" and the answer from campus IT is "NO, you CAN NOT, campus systems require a Window 7 Pro or OS X 10.5+ and access to campus WiFi is not possible without it." And the CHEAPEST system either campus recommend for "general education" incoming freshmen is an $1100 Dell system. (with the expectation it will still meet campus requirements 2 years hence, though no guarantee of making it 4 years). Some departments require much more expensive systems, several REQUIRE a Macintosh, and Mac is highly recommended for it;s "versatility" in being able to run multiple operating systems and meet varying student needs. They "strongly" caution not to buy ANY system not on their list as they stock parts and are certified to repair ONLY those systems. The local bestbuys get a few dozen returns every fall because parents go cheap and the on-campus IT folks laugh and send them away.
My HP mini5101 was supplied with Vista Business and runs the upgrade to 7Pro like a dream on its little atom, even only scoring 2.3 on the windows experience, It has wifi A,B,G,N, Bluetooth and will run 1080p if i swap my 3G gobi for the Bcom Crystal decoder, the 1366x768 dosplay isnt quite as High a resolution but the machine will run for 7hours...
but yes, the air is quite nice...
It's really a nice freudian slip you made between 'to go by' and 'to go buy' ; shows nicely what your uni is really all about, form over content. This 'puter will certainly make you feel good, go for it. Your tutition fees are a good investment obviously.
Anyway, that wasn't my point. What I was saying is, I don't mind if a computer can multitask faster than the one I've got, if it can't address the task I'm expecting it to fulfill. Most real life computing problems are io-bound, not cpu-bound. Those little things look good, but they don't have enough connectivity for what I do. They can run as fast as they want, if I can't feed the processor with my data the way I need, they're useless. To make a comparison, much like sport cars, they are nice, shinny and fast, but the trunk can't hold what I expect to fill it with.
But pedal to the metal and godspeed to you, my friend.
ps. mind you, I learned the basics of computing on CP/M (no multitasking -at all-), spreadsheets and wordprocessor on a DOS 286-12MHz, and then I switched from finance to law science, and, oh, shock and horror, most of it was in DEAD TREES BOOKS !
I've got a MacBook but am really a Windows guy... however even I can see it's a nice package. It's expensive but remember to anyone on a decent salary, a few £100 extra to get something sleek and cool is not a big deal, it's like buying a granite kitchen worktop or a Rolex watch... aesthetics are worth money to people who don't have to watch every penny.
If I did a lot of travelling for work I'd consider one.
I think we need to start the TNLCA: Thin 'n' Light Computers Anonymous.
I don't have a need for another small lightweight laptop (I've already got the Alienware M11x), but it's such an attractive wedge of aluminium that I want one anyway. It reminds me of the time I first saw Sony's VAIO range with their magnesium casings back in 1999...
Seriously, pointing out that the machine is far more expensive than the wintel competition isn't prejudice, it's just a plain fact, so get over it. Clearly it seems the reviewer is a Apple apologist and feels the need to come out fighting with this assertion. As it stands - and reading the other comments - the price IS the sole interesting fact about this latest Apple notebook offering. The rest of the stats are just a list of parts that will fit in the case of the specified dimensions and do the required job for the sort of people who will buy this thing.
Is it too much to ask for an actual review conducted over a few days using actual proper demo kit, and by a reviewer capable of neutrality?
Very hot little bit of kit!
As a pro who spends upmty hours of work doing LAMP-ish stuff I appreciate what Macbooks are. I'm prepared to pay premium for lightweight, just-works, FOSS-ready (thank you, MacPorts!) kit that's a pleasure to use day in day out. Sweet when lugging it about on my motorcycle.
Games? i have my Xbox for that - Apple is nowhere on that horizon.
yes, you could.... but why? Why do you want to run OSX so much ? sure, back in the day it was lithe, exciting and fresh...but recently its started to look a little dated...and with recent news of a future without Java..the walled garden of computing that Steve wants to make with his OSX AppStore (and probably no simple downloads of .dmg files ever again to install 3rd party software)...
well, THAT form of computing isnt for me. I think i'd be finding out if that new Air could run Windows 7 !!! ;-)
..and no. I wouldnt be really, as this underpowered over priced laptop isnt for me
That's what Jobs said during the presentation.
But it's a shame with Java, on the other hand, we don't know which patent suits Apple has to fear from Oracle for providing a custom made Java VM and we don't know how hard it is to tweek the Java sources to use the Apple GUI instead of X11.
I know a lot of people who like OS X but need Eclipse and they complained loudly when Apples Java was one release behind Suns Java.
If I where Apple, I'd rethink Java, it must not follow the OS X release cycle, but it must be there.
I don't get why you'd want to run MacOS anyway. I'd understand it if you were - how do you say in English - "technologically illiterate" and keep getting viruses because you don't understand the difference between an executable and a data file, but someone who writes and appraises technology, huh?
Windows has a better range of applications, none of which are nobbled versions to pander to simpletons. You will never complain your hardware is unsupported.
Why would you go the retard route unless you "is" one.
Disclaimer: I'm a huge apple fanboy. I own at least one of almost everything they've made in the last 10 years. I have a G3 iMac aquarium.
I don't understand who wants one of these. They're just not much smaller than a 13" MacBook. They're thinner, but that's rarely important. Even the eleven incher is a negligible size difference. If you can't fit a 13 inch laptop in your bag, you need a bigger bag, frankly. This seems to me to be the most unessesary Apple product ever, and that nobody (apart from people who keep all their things in large manila envelopes) will gain anything by buying one of these over a regular MacBook. And that's coming from a man who is currently typing on an iPad.
Having lugged around my 13" MacBook quite a lot lately I can say that 2 kg and 1 kg does make a difference. And having handled the 11.6" MBA a few days ago I must say that this thing really feels like a "full" laptop, just without the size and the weight. Good keyboard, enough pixels, great trackpad. It's a really nice machine. And the SSD is snappy. Ars Technica already ran some benchmarks and the SSD was nearly a factor of 10 faster than the 5400 RPM HD in a current MacBook Pro. And it feels this way, too.
Raw CPU power is not that important anymore. With a fast SSD and a decent GPU this thing is fast enough for everything that doesn't involve massive computing power (video editing, rendering, etc). Just make sure to get the 4 GB version. 2 GB won't cut it in the long run and there is no way to put more RAM in.
I'm not a fanboi but this is the first macbook I'd like to own. As much as I love my eeepc701, the 11.6 inch air is what ticks most of the boxes after a few years with my 701. I would admit all the failings with the 701 but I'm not going to. It's served me well. Eeepc girl on the beach, we shall remember you. Coming from someone thats currently typing on an eeepc 701 running puppy 5 on a 4G SDHC card.
Comparing the MacBook Air to the MacBook Pro is actually very balanced. For 1.389 EUR I can get the 'basic' MacBook Air 13" with 4 GB RAM upgrade. The 'basic' MacBook Pro 13" with 128 GB SSD (so we can compare apples to apples - no pun intended) would set me back 1.464 EUR. Comparing specs (Air first, then Pro):
- same in both cases are 4 GB DDR3 RAM, 128 GB SSD (Air one directly on the mboard) and NVidia 320 graphics using 256 MB onboard (plus some minor stuff)
- 1.86 Ghz CoreDuo with 6MB L2 cache / 2.4 Ghz CoreDuo 3MB L2 cache (Pro 29% higher clockspeed)
- 1.32 kg weight / 2.04 kg weight (Pro weighs 55% more - though SSD may reduce this a bit)
- 1440x900 / 1280x800 resolution screen (Air 27% has more pixels)
- 7 hours battery / 10 hours battery
- 2 USB & 1 SD / 2 USB, 1 SD, 1 FireWire, 1 Ethernet
- no SuperDrive / SuperDrive
- no illuminated keyboard / illuminated keyboard
- instant-on (from 30-day standby) / ?? (can the Pro do this with SSD?)
In real-life use I wouldn't think that, with all other parts (RAM, graphics, SSD, etc.) being equal and the Air actually carrying twice the L2 cache, the performance difference would amount to more than 10-15% in favour of the Pro. In addition the Pro gets the very useful benefit of 3 hours extra battery time. However, to get this you carry around substantially more weight (low weight being the entire point of this type of 'super portable') and are stuck with an inferior screen (and in this screen size you extra pixels do matter). I think this is a pretty even trade-off - really depends what you want to use it for. But for general purpose 'leisure' use I think the Air has the edge. Instant-on is also a big selling point for me, but I'm not sure a Pro with SSD won't (with software update?) also be able to pull this off?
As for the other differentiators, whether any of those matters is really a personal thing. But I'm probably not alone in saying FireWire and Ethernet, on a laptop, are meaningless to me. As for the SuperDrive, the only time I still use CD/DVDs is when I pick up a bargain basement game or record in the shops, and I can still load/rip those via my iMac or W7 work laptop. In fact I can't recall any situation in the past 7 years where I needed a CD/DVD player on the road (and I work in client offices 3/4th of my time). Plus with the cash you save you can buy a spare drive or dongle for the above anyway. Which leaves just the illuminated keyboard - me I hate using computers in low light (kills my eyes) and type blind anyway.
All of this of course ignoring the actual design of these things - both have their strong points but I think most people would favour the Air (I certainly do).
Disclaimer: I ordered that 1.389 EUR 13" AIr the day it became available, and I hadn't even known it was coming until I read about it on TheReg. Had been looking at the Pro for a long time, but there were small points holding me back - not enough portability and for that kind of money, not quite sexy enough basically (yes - this type of device *is* a lifestyle choice, I will have this laying around in my living room every day and want something 'nice' - something my wife is also enthusiastic about and something I feel good about every time I pick it up). The iPad on the other hand then is way too crippled/restricted for my liking, plus when I actually gave it 5 seconds of thought I quickly figured out that a laptop form factor is *much* better for relaxed use (sits on lap, hands resting on keyboard) than a wrist-(s)training tablet.
Instead of inventing something new, the planet seems to be full of people micro-differentiating the same market into thinner and thinner slices.
Nice product, shame about the price etc etc etc.
What ever happened to wearable computers, to merging all your home devices into some sort of multiprocessor farm, to truly functional shirt pocket things (what now resembles the original palmVX?), to voice op, to natural language processing?
Why can't I look up an itinerary on google maps, have it magically and silently shunted into my phone without button presses, and then shunted out into my car GPS when I get in the car?
Innovate kids, that is what will make things sell. Not ever prettier versions of something I already have.
>>Because the EeePC, like the one I have, will be cheap nasty shite.>>
Cheap? Yep, but the 701(eebuntu transforms it) is in my pocket wherever I go. If I wanna lookup the buses/gmail/whatever, it 'floats my boat'. For €150, I'm not complaining. 3 years old, and I still haven't felt the slightest temptation to try anything more advanced than 'Doom' on it. I bet that's a fraction of the wedge you've spent on booze in that time, and not had anything like the pleasure*.
However the mac Air 11½" looks well good. As I said previously, I think Apple are ruling the roost.
(Nice monicker BTW. Well chosen...)
* If you disagree, I think the News-Of-The-Screws pays for articles like that.
This is an Apple netbook. It's even got the weak CPU and strong GPU of a higher end netbook.
If you can stand the Apple keyboard and the pricetag, I suppose you could find this thing suitable. The same goes for the competition really. If you're not married to one OS or another, how the thing feels under fingers is bound to be the final arbiter here.
My current laptop is a Dell XPS M1330, 2.13GHz Core 2 Duo, 64GB SDD, 1280x800 LED backlit screen that cost me £1800 inc VAT 3 years ago principally because 64GB SSDs were about £600. With the extended battery it weighs more than 2kg. I get about 3 hours out of it but I still carry an extra, heavy extended battery just in case.
So, the top-of-the-range MBA will have the same CPU spec, better screen, four times the SSD, much less than half the weight for the same battery life as I was lugging around. Plus, I'll be able to run Windows 7 on it easily. That makes it two computers in one for me and a bit of a steal at £1500.
Ok, for £1500 I could get a faster machine but not necessarily with a 256GB SSD in it. I tried speccing an Alienware M11x and the 256GB SSD option on that is £550! I stopped at about £1800 inc VAT. Ok, it'll cream the MBA for games but I'm not a gamer.
Looks like the ideal replacement for my back-breaking Dell to me.
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