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The co-founder of Wikipedia is once again calling on internet surfers to adopt good manners online. Jimmy Wales co-wrote an opinion piece for the Wall Street Journal yesterday in which he griped about "carelessly rude to the intentionally abusive" behaviour on social networking sites, blogs and forums. And - for Jimmy and his …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Happy

    It' the anonymity, Jim.

    When ******** can hide behind a cloak of invisibility, they lose their fear of reprisal and tell the other *********** what ******* ******** they are.

    So we end up with **** ******* polluting the Interwebs.

  2. Owen Carter
    Badgers

    Thinking of a new blog

    I'm hatching plans for a new online diary (ok, it's a blog, but will have none of that trackback/pinging nonsense blogwonks use to make themselves feel popular).

    It will have a comments section, quite an open one. But there will be a couple of auto spam/idiot bots moderating it, plus myself, and I have decided I will publish IP addresses (in fact, I'm thinking of not having any form of nicks etc.., just IP addresses.) Anyone who cannot handle that can just STFU. :-) I won't be blogging anonymously, you wont be commenting anonymously.

    Need I link to a famous penny arcade cartoon here?

  3. Daniel Harris 1
    Thumb Down

    Spare time on your hands?

    This is nice for those that have time to bother setting up things like this lol. Surely most of us are too busy to care about what goes on Social networking sites, or in the comments section of the Mail website?

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Paris Hilton

    S'human nature innit?

    Two extremes:

    1 - the web as something approaching the Student Union bar at Uni

    2 - the web as something approaching tea-shop at Harrods

    People drawn to one are not really likely to be drawn to the other?

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The only thing...

    open about Jimbo is his mouth.

  6. Olafthemighty
    Grenade

    May I be the first...

    To tell that opinionated, self-important tit to go fuck himself?

    Shit, he's right - it IS easy to be rude!

  7. Glen 1 Silver badge
    Troll

    executive summary:

    To: DIckheads on the intewebs

    LURK MOAR

    from: your lord and saviour. Jimmy Wales

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I take it the term

    'Witty Repartee' has yet to make it into the toilet stall crayon marks that are wankerpedia.

    I suppose we could request he remove his site, that would be great. Sooner than later Jimbo, let's make the world a better place, for me, you and the entire human race.

  9. John Lilburne
    Grenade

    Thieving wikifiddlers

    Perhaps they should stop defending thieves:

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/13/wikimedia_npg/

  10. Jethro

    Striking resemblance to real life?

    "Some sites exist solely as a place for mean-spirited individuals to congregate and spew their venomous verbiage"

    Replace sites with pubs/bars and I can name many places where "appropriate face-to-face communication." would be a Glasgow kiss.

  11. Jon 29
    Joke

    OMG I think I have a solution!

    All personal computers are heretoforthwith to be supplied with a cartoon boxing-glove-on-a-spring that can be activated remotely via the interwibble by anyone against whom a slight is made.

    OK, so maybe that's a bit harsh. How about the remote InstaCrash hard drive feature that - you guessed it - enables the jilted web user to wreak his revenge on online meanies by zapping their disk!!!!!!!111 C'mon. wouldn't that be great?

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Troll

    "Targets of online hostility should also consider coming forward to..."

    ... what, publicly revel in their humiliation before the entire world? Yeah, that'll really make them feel better. Trolls consider it a massive and immediate win if they can push someone into public bawwwwing of this sort, it will be just another scalp on their belt - they'll love this idea.

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Jimbo

    What a twat.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      FAIL

      Actually...

      I've been attempting to devise a new keyboard (USB compatible, of course) that is not all that dissimilar to a dogs electric shock collar... And it's completely controlled by remote commands. So, you're on your favorite online game and someone says something that pisses you off, and assuming they have my keyboard, you run a little application that issues the remote keyboard instructions to give its user a mild corrective shock.

      I'm actually working on two variations: Standard and Enhanced. The Standard model will issue a mild 20KV correction each and every time... The enhanced has a built in "annoyance monitor", which will start small, at less than 1000 volts and incrementally increase with each violation.

      I also have a complementary mouse on the drawing board, which is targeted towards the chronic profile stalkers. It works in conjunction with a little API provided to the host site, and the user decides who gets zapped and who doesn't.

      Alternative uses could include a module that monitors website content, i.e. porn and other socially frowned upon content, and issues corrections, based on the amount of skin and the lewdness.

    2. heyrick Silver badge
      Happy

      IP addresses?

      Sounds like my blog. No bots, just a bit of script asking for a number to be typed backwards. I don't bother listing IP addresses because that will only affect people with static IP. My ADSL box 's IP address changes. Seems to be about every three days. Right now it is 90.32.36.xxx (replace xxx with a number, you'll be close enough but still many miles out). In a few days...?

      Anyway, I agree with you. Few people have a *need* to post anonymously. Stand by what you say, or STFU.

  14. Dale 3

    YouTube

    I wouldn't mind a button on YouTube that completely and permanently hides all the comments on every video.

  15. Mr Young
    Pint

    Jimbo - blog off

    Annoyance and abuse is standard - its called REALITY last time I looked. Nowhere near as bad as a patronising f&^£kbderr.

  16. Jamie Kitson

    Wot a toser

    dat guy si suc a LOOSER!!!!!!! HAHAHALOLROLCOPTER!!!

  17. thejynxed
    FAIL

    Funny...

    That these words are coming from someone who had a very public, and disagreeable split with a girlfriend on the internet.

    We won't even get into how uncivil the upper echelon of Wikipedia can be, especially when you try to edit their pet pages (pages I might add, that generally contain misleading or outright false information).

  18. Anonymous Coward
    FAIL

    Cool, Jimbo's invented netiquette!

    Except that netiquette never really worked because some people are just boorish fucks who lack civility and a keyboard shields them from the downside of their behaviour.

    Next week: Jimbo invents eugenics.

  19. Oninoshiko
    Badgers

    even jimbo knows...

    "People need to know how to differentiate between information that is published on legitimate sites that follow defined standards and also possibly a professional code of ethics, and information published in places like gossip sites whose only goal is to post the most outrageous headlines and stories in order to increase traffic."

    soo.. we should stop useing wikipedia then?

    done, and done!

  20. Mike Flugennock
    Grenade

    P'haaa ha ha ha ha haahhhh.

    Civility is overrated.

    Fuck you, Jimbo.

  21. Anonymous Coward
    Grenade

    In my humble opinion...

    What part of "suck it" doesn't he understand?

  22. Somey
    Headmaster

    I'm shocked!

    The sheer, unbridled arrogance, hypocrisy, narcissism, and utter lack of self-awareness being displayed by Mr. Wales and Ms. Weckerle here are... well, totally predictable and par for the course, actually!

    The thing is, on Wikipedia, accusing someone else of failing to be civil is, itself, considered a "civility violation." Wikipedia doesn't have a civil or civilized community, what they have is <i>enforced</i> civility, and the people enforcing it are usually 15-year-olds who are given ban-buttons and precious little else with which to do it. Meanwhile, the current motto on Ms. Weckerle's <a href="http://andreaweckerle.com/">personal blog</a> is "Attack life, wait for nothing." Yeah, that sounds really civil to me, too.

  23. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    WTF?

    Unbelievable

    Not one "bitch" comment yet. I just can't believe it.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      FAIL

      I can believe it.

      >Not one "bitch" comment yet.

      Yeh. That's because we're talking about Jimbo Wales, not Mark Zuckerberg.

  24. Winkypop Silver badge
    Stop

    Ahh come on now Mr Jimbo, son

    Get your hand off it.

    You'll go blind you know!

  25. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    'a "national support network" for adults who suffer hostility online'

    Who would that be then?

    I believe there are 2 ways you can end up facing hostility online:

    1) you were actively provoking people, looking for hostility. In which case you can suck it up because you got what was coming to you.

    2) you did nothing wrong and were unfairly attacked, in which case you can just ignore it. Nobody is going to jump on the bandwagon to insult you without proof you did something wrong - so the few bad apples insulting you are just that, bad apples. And remember, they'll have no ammunition against you that you don't give them by posting it on the internet to begin with.

    Any adult who feels they are "suffering" online, knows where the button to close their browser is. It's that simple.

  26. Gregory Kohs
    WTF?

    My experience with online venom

    Back in 2006, the co-founder of a popular website publicly announced that my approach to the site (one he had helped shape) was “deeply unethical and inappropriate”, and he deleted an article that I had authored. Even though it wasn’t written for payment, and the subject company wasn’t even aware of the article, the co-founder mistakenly assumed it was paid content and thusly labeled it “corporate spam”. Then he indefinitely blocked my user account on the popular website, so that it could not edit any more. Some hours later, the co-founder returned to the popular website to further blast my article, calling it a “travesty of NPOV [neutral point of view]” and “corporate fluff”.

    It took him about two years to finally work up the courage to publicly apologize to me for how poorly he handled the situation, but he continued on being a prick to many others besides me.

    The website? Wikipedia. The prickly co-founder? Jimmy Wales.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Thumb Down

      Takes one to know one, or You're carefully only telling half the story there aren't you?

      You carefully omitted to tell us why he might have supposed that your article was "written for payment" in the first place, which leaves us with no context in which to evaluate the reasonableness or otherwise of either of your positions, and so is a clever way of making his action seem arbitrary and putting yourself in the role of the unfairly-maligned victim, but five seconds googling reveals stuff like:

      >"Wikipedia has no policy on paid editing, but when entrepreneur Gregory Kohs announced he would create articles for hire, he was banned, and the policy left ..."

      So frankly I have little sympathy if you then went and wrote an article not-for-hire and nobody believed you. Wales is a prick but that doesn't logically prove that you *aren't* a spammer / astro-turfer / cheap opportunist of some description.

  27. Damien Thorn
    WTF?

    Bet he banks with barclays.

    A Barclay banker called jimbo telling us to be nice!

    I bet he is some kind of tree hugging mac wearing tinsel headed namby pamby eco warrior eating veggies sprouting his drivel.

  28. The Flying Dutchman
    Alert

    Wishful thinking

    "People can and will learn to shun and avoid such sites over time..."

    I suppose that would be bad news for the various Daily Crap and News of the Gutter type publications then...

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