I echo a call by one of my fellow commentards when I ask for a mind bleach icon.
Horrible, horrible thoughts.
A Swedish dad who hopes he might in future be able to help out his missus in the breastfeeding department has embarked on a rigorous programme of moob-pumping to entice vital nourishment from his chest. Ragnar Bengtsson, 26, has begun "stimulating his breasts with a pump" at three-hour intervals, and will continue to do so …
Imagine my surprise when THIS article was nominated for my inner shortlist for the most representative article ever on The Dead Bird.
But then I thought, NO.
That article is literature, comedy, art. A bit of fun.
But then I thought, NO.
It is a story about a guy playing with his nipples.
But then I thought, NO.
And then I stopped thinking.
As our breasts' primary function is to feed the young
(distracting males especially of the geek variety is just a nice bonus.)
what is wrong with a father doing his best to feed his child?
If Paris, I and the few other women on here can do it why shouldn't guys?
Come on guys are you going to finally admit that there's something we mere girlies can do that you can't?
So, this guy thinks that the problem is with other people when he boob-pumps during lectures.
I'm going to knock one out*, right here in the office, while surfing www.celebsgettingoutofcarsandshowingtheirnancy.com - if any of the women (or men) at the desks near me find this in any way distasteful, it's obviously their problem... jeez!
Paris, 'cos, well, I need to warm up a bit first......
*Yes, this means w-nk. At least I'll produce *some* milk.
"Women breastfeed after they've been bathing in estrogen during a nine month pregnancy, so obviously it takes some time."
Indeed. How anyone bathing in testosterone and with no estrogen whatsoever is supposed to reach the same state is largely beyond me.
What a loony. He'd better prepare syringes with massive doses of estrogen as a contingency plan to his missus being out. Bottom line is his shape and mindset would change a wee bit :-)
As Rob said, "We are truly destined to become exstinct".
Paris icon, as she doesn't need more estrogen ...
Yes, it works. What are you getting so surprised over? Breast tissue is breast tissue. It produces milk when given the correct stimuli. In a man, it just doesn't usually get those stimuli.
Men and women have 45 out of 46 chromosomes in common, for crying out loud. We are not different species!
It would be far more helpful to his wife if this numbnut took over his fair share of the cleaning, cooking, shopping and other household tasks than trying to squeeze a couple of drops out. You would be amazed how easy it is to breastfeed after having a meal cooked and a bath poured for you.
From someone who has actually bloody done it!
There was a Woman's Hour thing about this idea last Friday on Radio 4 - a woman was on who had breastfed her surrogate child, and what she had to go through was, according to the experts on the show, the same as what a man would. Largely, take a birth control pill with lots of oestrogen for many months, and eat food with some helpful nutrients (possibly fenugreek was mentioned?); and lots of pumping.
There was also mention of it being not unheard of for men to breastfeed somewhere in Southern Africa, where it was regarded as pretty impressive in a man. I missed the explanation of how those men managed, presumably without artificial hormone supplements.
Gender diamorphism in humans actually serves little purpose since the Industrial Revolution -- arguably, since the Agricultural Revolution even. In a few thousand years' time, the sexes will be barely distinguible.
Even before that, people will get sex-change surgery for a job interview the way they get a haircut today -- and if they get it done privately, it'll all be fully fuctional.
I know more about hormones of the feminine variety than anyone should ever need to - I very very much doubt that this poor nerk is going to get anything out of this but moobs down to his knees (bad image rofl)
The only way this would work is if the stimulation causes Luteinising Hormone to be released and even then I am not sure it will work without oestrogen being present... and he's not gonna like the side effects of that...
Does remind me of the joyous dad feeds baby scene on family guy ...
... no stewie griffin icon ...
"As other commentards have mentioned, men can and do lactate."
Well, we normal men don't, specially not in a quantity that would feed a baby. Just massaging/pumping his moobs won't get him much (maybe some good times, if he's into that). As mentioned above, there are reasons for them stupid hormones -- and the article does not mention him taking a bunch of them. Anyway, let him try, nothing wrong with that.
Look up the word "pasteurization" at some point for a really good reason not to do this... besides, the cow might object...
All that aside though, have you ever eaten an egg? If you have a problem with cow's milk, you don't even want to know where those come from!
"but why on earth would he try and destroy the Best excuse not to get up in the middle of the night !!!!"
How's that? I used to get up and bring the baby in for her. What excuse would that be, again? Oh, "I'm too friggin' lazy and selfish to help you raise this child." THAT one.
P.S. The use of four exclamation marks is obviously the sign of a sick mind. You should get help for that.
If Senor Mjolkmannen wants to give breastfeeding a whirl, power to him. My recollection of high school biology is quite dim, but I seem to recall that estrogen, progesterone, leutenizing hormone, and follicular something else were part of the female pregnancy/ lactating hormonal roller coaster and so Milkman will have a tough row to hoe without some chemical assistance (maybe HIS mum has some menopausal HRT pills?). Agree with Eliza, though, in that keeping the house clean, the laundry done, the meals made, and the bills paid while Mum recuperates will be infinitely much more useful than tag- teaming on breastfeeding.
Science for science's sake I suppose, but I don't object to that. I'll be interested to know if it works. If I'm ever cursed with a crapping, pissing, snot-dribbling oik (i.e., child) I'd quite happily hand over a nipple to shut its whinging up. If it got some milk from it, good for it (although possibly not so good for me; see previous breast-cancer comment [Greg Fleming Posted Friday 4th September 2009 14:57 GMT]).
"All hands man the pumps" hahaha
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