Where did they take their sample from? The annual environazi convention?
British folks are plain crazy about leccy cars, according to an RAC poll. The survey – based on 1000 motorists’ answers – summarised that roughly 6.7m of Britain’s drivers are considering buying a vehicle powered solely by batteries at some point during the next five years. And the figure doesn't sound unreasonable, because a …
I'll stick to my noisy, supposedly environment destroying Focus ST thanks.
I can see a problem arising though with leccy cars, two in fact. At the minute they are exempt from VED and they don't use petrol. That's two massive taxes the government want to throw away. I'd love to hear how they plan to fill that void.
that live in a city, with good infrastructure and short comutes were asked a question
"If electric cars were the same price as petrol and you could get electric from anywhere and the cost to run was less and you are blisfully unware of the techincal shortfalls. Would you buy an electric car in the next five years?"
"Given the higher costs of electric vehicles, the lack of charging points, the lower speeds and the inabilty to travel to your parents house, go on holidays or even do a business trip coupled with the inabilty to recharge with a fuel can, should you get caught out, would you want a leccy car in the next 5 years?"
Lies, Dammed Lies and Statistics
The gov's scrappage plan, while well meaning, only attracted 35,000 takers (so far), however, with innovators such as Tesla and others offering appealing leccy vehicles, the people are obviously willing to speak/vote with their wallets, no politics required. The greatest immediate benefit of leccy vehicles will be the reduction in local particulate and noise pollution - as anyone who lives near a road can testify too! Great for children whose bodies are being flooded with muck from birth thanks to our reliance on carbon fuels, plastics and useless drugs.
Finally, after all this time, change is in the air! Happy times.
..seem to be the typical inexplicibly-averse-to-new-technologies-that's-probably-eco-guilt-projecting-as-macho-esque-anger.
I'm one of the people that'd want their first car to be electric. We can make electricity carriage more efficient (HVDC power lines) and batteries and motors inevitably.
Can you make diesel or petrol? Oh.
I'm guessing the sample all live in inner london, and are aware of the implications with regard to the 'Congestion Charge".
It would be interesting to see what happens to that if the majority do manage to buy electric cars, and get to drive around the centre for free.
On a similar line to other people, I would have to point out that I am 'considering' a liaison with Ms Hilton...
what you want and what you get.
6.3 Million want electric cars? So what!
I want one too. I want one that does 0..60 in under 10 seconds, has a top speed of >90mph, cruises comfortably at 70mph+, comfortably seats 4 plus luggage, has a 4*+ NCAP rating, recharges in 10 mins or less and costs under £15000.
i.e a direct replacement for my current fossil-burner.
What you actually get is a plastic bug that can barely hit 50mph, runs out of juice after 50 miles, seats 2 (uncomfortably), has bugger-all luggage space, uses you legs as the crumple zone, takes all night to recharge and *still* costs £15k.
My point is that asking if people want X is pointless unless they know what X is. Ask people if they would like a new house for £50 and most will say yes. Tell 'em its from Toys 'R' Us..........
Mains powered vehicles generate twice as much CO2 as a normal petrol vehicle. The government's own figures show that electricity generated for the national grid produces twice as much CO2 per unit of energy.
Until electric vehicles can obtain their energy from sources other than the national grid (which is mostly fossil based fuels) then "e-cars" are the LEAST green options on the planet for the above reason. What's in it for the press and RAC to miss-sell the so-called benefits of e-cars? Don't sell out the planet for a story.
Sir, as a fellow ST driver I have to congratulate you on your superb choice of car. However, if they came up with a leccy version as fast as the ST, costing substantially less than the current £0.16/mile to run, I for one would jump on it.
Oh, and the government is planning to replace the petrol revenue with Road Pricing; up to £1.34/mile with the added bonus of Orwellian GPS tracking of all. Even though 1,800,000 people said 'NO'.
I'd take one in a heartbeat. Except that:
a) I don't have a garage, so I need charging points in my london borough.
b) it needs to include a petrol generator to charge the battery white driving as a fallback, so I can go more than 100 miles and can visit places without plug sockets.
b) I don't want it to look as goddamn ugly as a prius.
c) Soft top please - once you've gone cabrio, you never go back.
But I doubt the RAC asked anything useful like that.
I'm not sure about this electric car business as a green idea - the only way I know of reliably cutting my transport emissions is by sharing the driving with two colleagues. It's not glamorous, it has no IT angle, but it works.
And when I'm rich maybe I'll get a Tesla for playing on B roads at the weekend.
I hope to see you over at focusstoc.com then? I'm already there ... (;
I don't think I'd buy a leccy ST unless it was just so much cheaper I'd be silly not to, but if the costs are comparable then I'll stick to burning petrol. There's plenty of petrol stations to keep me going but no charge points where a leccy car would be charged in 5 minutes (to name but one issue).
I don't expect it to get any better in 5 years time. In fact, I expect leccy tech to fail miserably and that hydrogen will be the tech to take us forward.
ASBO AWAY :D
Even though we don't know a lot about the specific questions asked we can still surmise a couple of things.
First this was a questionnaire based on stopping people and asking them.
Clearly then people with plenty of time on their hands - not in a hurry as it were.
These people are a lot more likely to put up with the failings of a leccy car, and are willing to buy.
Personally I'm happy on public transport most of the time and on a Streetcar (car club) the dozen or so times a year that I actually need a car. (Though if I didn't live in town that'd certainly change.)
It seems the latest craze of the serial "find some little thing wrong with electric vehicles" brigade is the ~40% efficiency of our national grid to the socket in the home, binging such statements as:
Charged by... By EC Posted Monday 1st June 2009 11:00 GMT
All charged by a national grid which loses the majority (64% by memory) of the power between the powerstation and the socket.......
Stupid people By Gary F Posted Monday 1st June 2009 12:19 GMT
Mains powered vehicles generate twice as much CO2 as a normal petrol vehicle......
You aren't comparing Apples to Apples.
EV's convert 80-85% of the electricity that they take in into motive force. Even taking losses through the National grid into account that's still 30-35% efficient.
ICE powered cars only convert about 15-20% of the energy stored in petrol / diesel into motive force.
So EVs are actually about TWICE as efficient.
There has got to be change - the petrolheads of course will have none of it. But they're barking at the moon. The change is coming, like it or not. It has to.
The logistics of delivering suitable power distribution points into the street are enormous, but not insurmountable. The current technology is still at a very early stage, but advancing rapidly to the point where in a few years it would be reasonable to anticipate EVs able to take on their petrol/diesel counterparts head to head. Necessity being the mother of invention and all that.
Today's tech for EVs is advanced enough to make sense in a journey radius of around 50 miles, which seems ridiculous by comparison with petrol vehicles. But that radius is suitable for a significant amount of road miles such as the school run, local distribution and commuting.
The efficiencies of EV over petrol/diesel are well known and provable, but distorted by the "No" lobby. The economics do a lot better than balance out - my own EV has a financial break-even of 1.2 years against the vehicle it replaced, which I am about to realise in the next 3 months. Provable, no statistics, no supposition, no guesswork. It copes with my 26-mile each way commute, it makes progress with traffic on urban and suburban roads including dual carriageways. In practical terms there are no sustainable arguments against the use of the EV for the commute.
I applaud the official rhetoric in favour of EV - but I also despair at our ability to deliver to it. This nation seems to have lost the ability to actually deliver. But one lives in hope.
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