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The Great Australian Firewall has claimed another victim - some pages of Wikileaks have been added to the blacklist of websites which Australians are not allowed to look at. The reason for the block is that Wikileaks published a list of websites banned by the Danish government. Australian websites which link to the pages face …

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  1. Ash
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    Lovely

    It's AU$11000.00 per day of infrengement, by the way.

    Anyone ever watched Monkey Dust? Paedo-Finder General was my favourite character... Sounds a lot like the folks behind the firewall software. To paraphrase:

    "All websites are innocent until speculated guilty!"

  2. Jonathan

    Lets start a campaign....

    Although I'm not an Aussie, for the good of our Antipodean brothers, and indeed net freedom and neutrality in general, perhaps we should organize a campaign in which every one of us submits one website to the rating body for banning. It could be the most harmless thing ever, just try to turn something innocent into something offensive and get it banned.

    This will lead to either the censors being overworked through the sheer volume of work imposed by the millions (I hope there are millions) of studious El Reg readers, or they will block all websites presented resulting in pretty much an internet black out. Lets look for health education websites that might show pictures of cha chas and willys, the evil Google which is used to search for illegal things, the horrendous YouTube which hosts a disturbing clip by one Rick Astley, El Reg which often disagrees with the Aussie gov on this issue, Amazon which can sell sexual material including books and movies....

    The list is endless.

  3. Man Outraged

    Comment please!

    Would be nice to hear some expert comment on this story, especially given the significance that pages about censorship are themselves being censored. Significant because it can lead into a censorship spiral where the public are ignorant that their world view is censored so believe their view to be complete. A great mind tool of opressive regimes throughout history - hiding the censorship.

  4. Jaap Stoel
    Black Helicopters

    Some kind of record attempt?

    I'm not entirely sure but is the aussie firewall reaching some kind of new record?

    From what it was advertised to a tool of political censorship?

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Alert

    If you're an Aussie take note...

    ... this makes your country look completely stupid. Way to go dudes....

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Black Helicopters

    Follow the lemmings

    In the global quest for equality, the OzGov has made progress. In this instance, they have managed to screw everyone equally by attempting to slow Internet speeds.

    Even when there is a private organisation that ISPs voluntarily sign up to for standardised blocking, those people get it wrong too. With a government in control, there is no such thing as voluntary, there is certainly no such thing as efficiency, and they can never get things done right.

    Of course, the real issue here is not Internet speeds or ineffectiveness, but rather private property rights and whether people actually have them or not. In this case, the answer is clearly a resounding "NO!" If people are not free to use their own property (computers) to access information stored on other people's property (servers), then private property means nothing here. But then, who's surprised about that?

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Abortion

    I've seen the videos these anti-abortion places like to show people, they purposely use the most gruesome and old/outdated video they possibly can, stuff like that should be blocked.

    Though the same could be said for half of the media, I welcome it...

    not really, filtering is bad, very bad, mmmkay.

  8. Ad Fundum

    Here's a thought

    Under these (bizarre) premises, could you also be fined for linking to a page which in turn links to a "bad" page?

    Following the well-established "Six degrees of Kevin Bacon" legal attack, every site on the whole interweb would be legally culpable, forcing us all to disconnect from the web and return to the good old days of faxes and looking stuff up in books.

  9. Barrie Shepherd
    Unhappy

    Not Happy Skippy

    It's a great shame that The Register did not compound the ACMAs problems by also including the blacklisted links in its article.

    Its only by continuing to populate the WWW with the ACMAs banned links that the utter stupidity can be brought home to the majority of Australians who – to date – have been ambivalent to Minister Conroy’s proposals.

    I would post the links here but fear they would be censored.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    JIBBER-JABBERWOCKY

    This poem is dedicated to Stephen Conroy, the Australian minister for Internet Censorship.

    JIBBER-JABBERWOCKY

    'Twas silly, as the slimy dude

    Did lie to people in the news:

    All flimsy were the platitudes,

    And the logic trail confused.

    "Beware the Naked C---, my son!

    The jaws that bite, the maws that catch!

    Beware the big jugged bird, and shun

    The curious Mandersnatch!"

    He took his corporeal sword in hand:

    Long time the minxsome bird he sought --

    So rested he by the Cumcum tree,

    And stood awhile in thought.

    And, as in oafish thought he stood,

    The Naked C---, with heart of flame,

    While grappling with the turgid wood,

    Did burble as it came!

    One, two! One, two! And through and through

    The corporeal blade went snicker-snack!

    His sword was dead, the C--- was fed,

    So he made the journey back.

    "And, hast thou slain the Naked C---?

    Come to my arms, my righteous boy!

    O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!"

    He chortled in his joy.

    'Twas silly, as the slimy dude

    Did lie to people in the news:

    All flimsy were the platitudes,

    And the logic trail confused.

  11. Juan Inamillion
    Black Helicopters

    I lived there once...

    .... for about 3 years. Lovely place, lovely people. Mostly.

    In a sweeping generalisation it seems there are the 'good, honest, open-minded proletariat' and then there's the politicians and their wannabees. For some reason these latter twunts seem to think they know better than any other fucker in the country and try to impose their will on the great unwashed.

    I like the idea that we should all submit a site and see just what sort of mess they'll end up with. Can any of our Aussie brethren post the site or email address where you submit these? I wonder what would happen if someone submitted the censors site...

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Stop

    Where's the problem?

    I'd never heard of Wikileaks until today. I went to the link because it mentioned a list of sites blocked by Danish ISPs. I don't see why they're complaining. I scanned over the list of sites blocked here in Denmark and all I see are dodgy sounding porn sites, likely harbouring kidporn like it says. I wouldn't visit sites with URLs like that anyway, so I don't care that they're being blocked. The Wiki page makes it sound like some huge conspiracy, which it's not. I don't see any legitimate sounding sites being blocked and the ISP clearly shows you a page explaining that the site has been blocked, i.e Piratebay, so what's the issue? They don't explain why it's an issue, they don't say which sites are being unfairly blocked or why. Conspiracy theory crap, in my opinion.

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Joke

    Josef Fritzl

    I think this is just a kneejerk reaction by the Australian government to the Fritzl case... You have to remember, we didn't even have internets when he started doing his dirty dealings...

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    TO MY FRIENDS AT THE REGISTER

    With Lots Of Love and Feelings Of Absolute Devotion you have blogged your case.

    I fear however that you have already come under the spell of Satan's evil Web.

    Our nation is in danger, and must be saved from the insidious influence of your lesbian publication.

    All is not lost, however. I am a politician, so my people trust me.

    I pledge to shield them, every one, from all things pink and ***illating.

    Or controversial. Or disagreeable. Or with bad feng shui.

    Remember, I love them one and all, and am acting in their best interests.

    The quality of mercy is not strained.

    It is filtered.

    Yours,

    Stephen Conroy

    Minister for Internet Censorship

  15. Dave Ross

    So...

    they are blacklising pages that link to pages that are blacklisted?

    What about pages that link to pages that link to pages (ad infinitum) that are blacklisted?

  16. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It's already slow enough

    Yes, the Internet in Australia is already pretty slow, rates are artificially kept high, and penalties for using more than your volume quota are beyond good and bad. And YouTube blocks videos that can be watched in the US with misleading error messages. McDonalds in Oz even blocks sites like http://www.ein-o.com. Very heavy surveillance in general (they call them "street safety" cameras, etc.), and people in Australia buy this without any questioning at all, all in the name of "protecting" the people from themselves...

  17. Christoph Silver badge

    Something else they should ban

    It is of course a Well Known Fact that paedos recognise each other using a SECRET SIGNAL of dangling corks from the brims of their hats. The australian government should ban all sites showing pictures of such filth at once!!!!!!

  18. Paul
    Coat

    TITLE! \o/

    Shouldn't the firewall be called The Web Barrier Reef?

  19. Anonymous Coward
    Black Helicopters

    Yes, really. So it's just about pornography and not politics?

    http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Australia_secretly_censors_Wikileaks_press_release_and_Danish_Internet_censorship_list,_16_Mar_2009

    http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Denmark:_3863_sites_on_censorship_list%2C_Feb_2008

    This page? Or the comment on it? Well I just about feel like tearing up my australian passport. Glad I don't live there anymore. This is whole sham is disgraceful.

  20. Anonymous Coward
    Joke

    Not suitable for Australians?

    What are the rules for inclusion on this blacklist?

    Rule 1: No pooftas

    And is there a rule 6? We should be told.

  21. Anonymous Coward
    Paris Hilton

    Re: Lets start a campaign....

    Here's my suggestion: http://www.myfirsttime.com/

    It's a collection of reader-submitted stories of people's first times (having sex, that is). Some of the stories might be considered, by some, to be paedophilic erotica, due to the ages involved. But who would regard honest, intimate accounts of people's first times as paedophilic? Erm, paedophiles, perhaps?

    If it gets submitted, and then gets blocked, it'll mean that Australians can't be honest and open, on the web, about their first times, if they were a bit too young at the time. What will Aussies think of that? What will it say about the censors?

    Does anyone have a handy link for making submissions?

  22. Andrew george
    Unhappy

    Freedom...we've heard of it!

    Looks like its time to move - anyone know of an english speaking country in a non-tropical climate with reasonable infrastructure that hasn't turned into a bad parody of a 50's movie about life in comunist Russia?

    I'm thinking either New Zealand or Canada but New Zealand makes me feel even more remote than Australia and Canada...well I'd be too worried about the people next door.

  23. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Trial?

    So can someone answer, is this trail phase actually being used to filter 'live' users Interweb feeds yet? And if so did they get a choice, or were they just herded into it like BT's Phorm trials?

  24. Winkypop Silver badge
    Stop

    I'm an Aussie and it's like living in....

    [REDACTED - by order COMMONWEALTH GOVERNMENT of AUSTRALIA]

  25. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    A pertinent ditty

    We stand by our Government.

    If we stand in front of them, they f*** us.

    If we stand behind them, they s*** on our faces.

    (Graffiti read on a poor Venezuelan Street)

  26. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Censoring the content and the conversation

    If I read this right, if any web site carrying links to content or presumably mentioning it are also banned, then this makes any conversation about them also banned. So not only are the Ausies banning things, but they're banning discussion about the things that they banned.

    We had similar at work where the filter was putting a serious big left foot in the conversation about various political discussion because what they were discussing were, in fact, banned words. DOH!

  27. Anonymous Coward
    Stop

    Nuke australia.

    It seems our old deported criminals have got a bit too inbred and turned too stupid for their own good.

  28. Warren
    Unhappy

    Balls

    Dear Aussies

    As soon as it moves beyond removing pages with illegal images on them, this is the online equivalent of banning books.

    I hope you have found a way around this. I would link to one but fear my comment might be banned.

    PS Don't give our crazy govt any ideas, they love anything that costs too much money and demonstrates no understanding of technology. How long before you would have to insert your ID card to access the internet?

  29. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It was never about protecting anyone

    Whether in China, Iran, North Korea, the UK, USA or Australia, it has never been about protecting anyone. It is, and always will be, about CONTROL.

    Why do we act surprised when each new revelation confirms what we always thought?

  30. Robin Bradshaw
    Flame

    Address your complaints here

    You can send complaints about websites directly to the ACMA from their website here:

    http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD/pc=PC_90102

    Aparently you are supposed to be an australian in order to rais a complaint but thats just a piffleing detail.

    Aparently banned subjects are the following:

    "Any online content that is classified RC* or X 18+* by the Classification Board (formerly the Office of Film and Literature Classification). This includes real depictions of actual sexual activity, child pornography, depictions of bestiality, material containing excessive violence or sexual violence, detailed instruction in crime, violence or drug use, and/or material that advocates the doing of a terrorist act."

    Who is going to be first to complain about google, I bet you can find most of that there.

  31. Anonymous Coward
    Coat

    What's the problem anyway?

    I thought it was normal for prisons to have their communications regulated...

  32. Anonymous Coward
    Coat

    And why hasn't someone

    decided to post "Inappropriate links" to government websites and get them taken down?

  33. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Re: Comment please!

    I agree with Man Outraged, could we have an article from Outlaw addressing this topic?

  34. nbc

    Well, we can't say we weren't warned

    Robert Heinlein said:

    When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know, the end result is tyranny and oppression no matter how holy the motives.

  35. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    i know here's an idea.

    lets have a super top secret blacklist , listing where no-one can see it .. so when people upload or link to sites on the blacklist we can fine them..

    err.. if we cannot see the damn list how the hell are we meant to know if the sites we are linking too is actually on this blacklist that we cannot know about or view lol

    i'm just waiting for them to start charging for oxegen i really am because that will be the cherry on the top of the cake, it's just madness gone insane at the thought of this whole clusterFk

    and this actually got passed though into some government law??? lol

    just when you think the government or these goverement schemes they come up with cannot get any more ridiculous they lower the bar and still find a way under it!

  36. Christoph Silver badge

    @ Andrew george

    "Looks like its time to move - anyone know of an english speaking country in a non-tropical climate with reasonable infrastructure that hasn't turned into a bad parody of a 50's movie about life in comunist Russia?"

    Germany? It is possible to find people there who don't speak English, but not easy.

    Or Scandinavia?

  37. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    @AC 13:31

    "Whether in China, Iran, North Korea, the UK, USA or Australia,..."

    Last time I checked, we still had a constitutionally guaranteed protection of free speech in the US. And I'm, as of yet, unaware of my government saying that 'the internet needs to be regulated', arresting people for looking at 'extremist' literature, or putting up a huge, nationwide censorship firewall.

    It might make you feel better to think that the dumb hick 'merkins are just as bad as you are, but things are really pretty good over here. You should come try it out. Brits and Aussies are hella popular around here - what with the accents and all. And you can visit whatever web site you want, I promise!

  38. raving angry loony

    @JIBBER-JABBERWOCKY

    Nicely done sir. Well said.

    I guess Australia never really did get over being a prison camp. Maybe they're doing this out of angst over lost traditions?

  39. Anonymous Coward
    Flame

    How many polititions does it take to screw a democracy?

    First they came for the kiddyporn, but that was fine with me,that stuff is horrid.

    Then they came for the gay porn, but I don't swing that way anyhow,

    Then they came for the strait porn, but I have a big enough stash to last me.

    Then they came for the politically inconvenient or controversial content, and that started to get me worried.

    Then they came for everything else some right-wing nut-job thought could possibly be bad for someone somewhere, and the internet died.

  40. Jon Minhinnick

    Re: Freedom...we've heard of it!

    Hey, NZ's not so bad... it's only a 3-hour flight to the West Island and it's only 30 hours door-to-door Auckland to London. We're practically neighbours! Our Prime Minister is atheist or at least very agnostic. We can effectively close our borders the next time an asian chicken gets a nasty cough. And we use proportional representation when we vote every 3 years. Keeps 'em reasonably honest.

  41. Anonymous Coward
    Thumb Down

    UK Anyone?

    At the rate this country is going, those in Oz will be laughing at us in the near future...

  42. Steen Hive
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    @Robert Bradshaw

    "You can send complaints about websites directly to the ACMA from their website here:

    http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD/pc=PC_90102"

    I just thought up a belting use for the BBC botnet.

    Stephen Conroy is Jaqui Smith's long-lost bastard twin and it was an anthropological disaster they both didn't end up gracing the pages of an anti-abortion site.

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  45. Goat Jam
    Paris Hilton

    "ACMA's online content complaint forms are currently offline for maintenance."

    mmmkay, sure, <ahem> "maintenance".

    Right.

    Not because thousands of mischievous activists have been bombarding you with requests to ban every web site under the sun.

    No, I'm sure it wouldn't be that.

    Paris, because she has high maintenance requirements too.

  46. David
    Alert

    Read between the lines

    Australians need to read-between-the-lines on this fiasco.

    This whole internet filtering mess is due to the current government needing to appease the loony-right wing christians, in particular Senator Fielding, to help get their legislation through the senate.

    I reckon that Conroy et-al, don't have a deep personal commitment to the filtering.

    Of course, the delicious irony is that Senator Fielding recently voted against the governments alco-pops tax, leaving them with a major budget hole.

    I expect there will be a major push on the internet filtering front very quickly by the government, to get Senator Fielding on-side for a 2nd attempt at getting the alco-pops legislation through the senate.

  47. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    WTF

    The first thing the Australian public should ban is incompetent Communications Ministers.

    Since the liberal wanker Richard Alston, Australians have suffered under sucsessive incompetent morons.

    The latest dickhead, Stephen Conroy, is just the latest to be lead by the nose, and too stupid himself to see the error of the bullshit he's feeding us. It needs to be remembered he's first of all a politician which really means self-serving arsewipe interested primarily in feathering his own nest.

  48. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Banned Site List Leaked

    The Australian blacklist of censored sites has just been leaked. See http://www.wikileaks.com/wiki/Australian_government_secret_ACMA_internet_censorship_blacklist%2C_6_Aug_2008

  49. Adrian Esdaile
    Flame

    Positive action at last!

    Good, I hope this ACMA witchfinder general can block this piece of Satan-spawned online gambling software that has been on almost every PC, Linux and Mac I have ever seen - SOLITAIRE!

    Ban the personal computer! Burn them! BURN THEM!

  50. Anonymous Coward
    Black Helicopters

    Now Here's A Funny Thing

    I am in the UK, and BT is my ISP (no choice out here in the countryside) and, guess what, I can't access Wikileaks.

    Are BT or the IWF or someone even worse blocking this site?

    The error is:

    Connection Interrupted

    The document contains no data.

    The network link was interrupted while negotiating a connection. Please try again.

    Anyone else get this?

  51. Stephen

    @Banned Site List Leaked

    Sadly though we here in Australia can't read this list as wikkileaks is, of course, banned. It really needs to be posted on a huge number of pages/blogs, hypothetically speaking of course...

  52. Anonymous Coward
    Heart

    re banned site list leaked

    while I can understand wanting to ban:

    http://truechristian.com

    as it does seem a tad unhinged, I am not entirely sure if it quite counts as illegal content or paedophilia. (Admittedly it was a pretty dreadful site and I could not be bothered searching too far so maybe I missed the illegal content)

    I am however very puzzled by the inclusion of:

    http://dentaldistinction.com.au/

    as I did wander around this site for quite a while without finding the illegal content - are there pictures of children's naked teeth or something??

    and :

    http://www.maroochyboardingkennels.com.au/

    I wonder who has the Job of browsing these sites to find illegal content????

    AC - because, umm well I have visited a Dentist and I don't want the AFP knocking on/down my door one morning....

    strange smiley heart face thingy because it looks like the stickers my dentist gives out to kids....

  53. cphi
    Flame

    depressed aussie

    my first response to all those slamming aus and aussies was basically eff-you - then had to concede you're basically right... I'd blame the govt - full (on both sides) of repressed, self-righteous luddites but then a people always get the govt they deserve. it's difficult to contain the contempt for my fellow aussies who passively or actively support this censorship.

  54. Anonymous Coward
    Happy

    @Freedom...we've heard of it!

    To my limited knowledge Canada still has pretty wide open access to the Internet. Unfortunately, this surprises me as we have elected the most Conservative government in years, but I hope that was a anomaly.

    Fortunately, they don't have the popular support to enact legislation that would upset a broad segment of the population.

    Canada, welcoming the openminded from all corners of the world. Come on over!

  55. John Bayly

    @ Anonymous Coward: Now Here's A Funny Thing

    Same here, using BT business at work.

    I get "curl: (7) couldn't connect to host" from our server in the Fatherland so I'm guessing it's a wikileaks issue rather than a nefarious global censorship plan.

    Still trying to find a proxy in Sweden (where www.wikileaks.com is hosted) to confirm this though!

  56. Frank Fisher
    Flame

    Possible blocking of Wikileaks in the UK

    Yup, wikileaks is unavailable in the UK today - it *may* be a problem at their end, however, there's a court case going on right now between the Guardian and Barclays, and the Guardian just lost their appeal against the terms of an injunction that forbids publication of some confidential documents. Barclays *know* these are already on wikileaks - I'm wondering if there isnt' a parallel injunction ordering all british ISPs to block Wikileaks.

    I urge anyone whoc an check this out to do so asap.

  57. Anonymous Coward
    Black Helicopters

    Re: Now Here's A Funny Thing

    I can't reach Wikileaks, either. I've also tried via an anonymizing service, just to check, and it's not working that way, either.

    DNS look-up gives the IP number for both www.wikileaks.com and www.wikileaks.org as 88.80.13.160, which is also what comes up in a Google search for "wikileaks", but sending my browser straight to that address isn't working either, whether directly or via the anonymizing service I tried.

    Seems it may well be the Wikileaks site that's down.

    Paris, because it looks like she's asking questions, too.

  58. Jón Frímann Jónsson
    Boffin

    Avoid the blocks

    The blocks are performed on DNS level. There are two ways to bypass them. Use OpenDNS and your own DNS (Bind). I recommend both, as it is a good idea to run your own DNS server.

  59. John Smith Gold badge
    Joke

    JIBBER-JABBERWOCKY

    "The curious Mandersnatch!"

    I think one of these is now our Minister for Business.

  60. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Wikileaks also unavailable in Turkey

    İ don't think the site is blocked, probably gone down due to the mass of El Reg readers flooding the site.

  61. Frumious Bandersnatch Silver badge
    Paris Hilton

    jibber jabber

    heh... turgid wood... love it.

    Paris, cos she would nay shun some turgid wood.

  62. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    @David Wiernicki

    Now just look here, you (insert expletives here) American ...

    Warrantless wiretaps, CIA rendition, torture, Iraq, Abu Ghraib, no fly lists, border searches and seizures, Waco, Columbine, Global Warming (mostly caused by Americans), minimum wage below the poverty line, no working health system, ignorance on a pandemic scale, Rodney King, the Christian Right, the worst corporate failures in history (you idiots caused the whole Global Financial Crisis), hicks in pick-up trucks, voting rorts, drug culture, 12.5 million out of work and climbing fast, obscene executive excesses, George W. Bush for the last eight years and, to top it all off, your weak-as-piss beer. And you have the audacity to say "things are really pretty good over here"?

    Australia's "Great Firewall", that no-one outside of politics and a few lobby groups actually wants, is not yet in play - it's still being debated, publicly. Yes, that's right - actual public and Parliamentary debate. And there's a good chance it won't be implemented.

    I've travelled in the USA extensively over the last two decades and have relatives and colleagues there. Don't you dare try and tell anyone living in the UK, Australia, Canada or New Zealand that your country is better.

    So shove that up your Guantanamo Bay.

    (PS: Hi, Sarah. Hope your day improves.)

  63. Anonymous Coward
    Go

    Hmmmm...

    Google is no longer displaying Wikileaks.org when you search for it in Australia. Had to find it the hard way by typing it in instead In a degree of fairness, you do get a lot of articles about wikileaks and the Great Australian Censorship Conspiracy.

    On a plus note I can reach wikileaks.org.uk

    Anyone who would like a copy of the Barclays document can contact me on the following throwaway account:

    barclaysbollocks@mail.com

    I look forward to hearing from you...

    Go: Coz you should go for it.

  64. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    @ jonathan HAHA no! That's even worse.

    "This will lead to either the censors being overworked through the sheer volume of work imposed by the millions (I hope there are millions) of studious El Reg readers, or they will block all websites presented resulting in pretty much an internet black out"

    All they will do is make a law prohibiting people from making false claims and / or wasting their time and money

  65. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Wikileaks Access

    It worked for me a minute ago (wikileaks.org was the first hit in Google, and I could browse the site without problems).

    Excuse my ignorance, but what is the Barclay's document?

  66. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Jenni

    I am a kiwi living in oz. The NZ govt has bought in a copyright law which makes ISP providers police, judge n jury, as they have to disconnect users who repeatedly flout copyright laws. This was to come into law on 1 Mar 09 however, it's on hold cause the ISP's are having trouble working out how to implement it. lol. How's that then????

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