Does that make them PDA's for people with big Palms?
Japanese laptop maker Kohjinsha has rolled out a pair of Eee PC challengers, taking on the elfin sub-notebook with a pair of similarly sized tablet-style units incorporating 80GB hard drives. Kohjinsha SA5KXO8AL Kohjinsha's SA5KXO8AL: watch out, Eee PC Fortunately, neither the SA5KXO8AL and SA5KXO8FL run Windows' Tablet PC …
well the vye-37b which is a more powerful and expensive version of this (vye just rebadge Kohjinsha kit) does have a 5 and a halfish hour battery life when you turn the brightness down. Well once you remove vista anyway. And that's with the 1024x600 res with an a100 800mhz, gig of memory 130gb hard disk and 1gb of memory.
So I can believe that this model can manage a 5 hours life too.
The touch screen is pretty awsome too. The keyboards are also very nice to use. Can't fault em. Well except that the 37b shipped with bricksta
my eeeeeeeeePC is the same as this without the swivel screen and 80g HDD. I dont need the storage and the screen isnt something I would like.
mine £160 - this £300.
The only thing wrong with my eeePC is the screen. 800x440 is to small resolution. 800x600 would have been miles better. 1024x768 perfect.
Seems they are not learning. Price and/or better features to beat the competition is what you need. (Well unless you are apple).
so, here follows my criteria:
1. swivel screen that folds in tablet mode: check
2. small size: check
3. screen... 800 x 480, LED-backlit.. yuck.
4. 80 gb hdd... hmmm... so-and-so, more towards the "yuck" opinion. A 16gb solid state one would be enough for me at this point.
5. battery life....ughhh, BIG YUCK
6. case sturdiness - unknown
7. screen scratch resistance - BIG UNKNOWN.
if only it had a transreflective display that can work in bright sunlight and with backlight turned off, like the OLPC XO, it would be good and would sell like hot cakes.
It would be even better with a flash storage and not the hdd which is a bit sensitive to shocks (this is supposed to be an ULTRAPORTABLE device, right ?)
however the price is a bit steep and the microsoft tax adds even more salt in the wound it creates in the wallet :(
Also, the screen backlight that you cannot turn off and the hdd energy hog instead of a solid-state drive (even if of smaller capacity) are "no-way i'll buy that" points with me.
/flame icon just because.
These machines have been available in japan for well over a year so the title of the article should be something like:
‘Japanese geeks offered smaller-than-Eee little laptop before the Eee is released`
'Asus releases Eee to compete with Kohjinsha'
the swivel screen is nice because in Japan you can get it with a TV card installed or use it to watch DVD's.
I had a Kohjinsha SA1 last year, to my regret. (It drank a mug of tea eventually, but that's another matter.) This looks to be a revision of the same machine -- same case, same specification, same OS -- at half the original ($1000) price.
Things you want to know before you try and buy one? The keyboard is nearly the worst I've ever used -- far inferior to the more expensive SH6/SH8 models. The screen is no better than the Eee's (and far inferior to the more expensive SH6 and SH8 models, which sport 1024x600 pixels to the SA5's 800x480).
The SH6 I replaced the SA1 with is a much more civilized machine; slow, but the screen is a delight and the keyboard doesn't feel like they've stuffed a decaying squid under it.
Verdict: assuming I called it right and this is a straight reissue of the SA1, my advice would be "don't touch this with a barge-pole". Wait for the Eee 901, or if you need the disk space and have the money go for an HP MiniNote. This one's a turkey.
the slighlty more meaty older one fits in the front pouch of my backpack. You can use it no problem in the sun with the brightness down, although summer is yet to arrive.
The keyboard is good.
With XP pro the higher spec one is like lightning - you can easily have a half dozen tabs in firefox open, three word documents and winamp going in the background with a massive playlist.
So I'd expect this one to still be rather responsive. Linux would only be more responsive if you spent an age finding an appropriate gui that wasn't full of glam. Of course I turn the memory hungry themes engine off.
Only problem I found was that the hotbuttons app they use for the buttons on the monitor panel messes with directx so when you want a bit of retro gaming you need to kill that.
They're also a nice weight for just holding and reading a document in reading mode.
They also feel pretty sturdy.
As to the beach girl, you ever go to sofmap in Japan they'll have beutiful woman trying to sell you the things there in person.
When I got my Archos AV500 almost 2.5 years ago I did a test of playing video and got just shy of 6 hours, this extended to about 8 hours when outputting to a tv so the screen wasn't draining power. Now I'm lucky if I get up to 2 hours playback, the battery is work out.
These miniature laptops (legtops? palmtops?) are excellent for playing video because they can play practically any format you throw at them ust by getting the right codecs (which unlike Archos' offerings, won't cost you a penny) but the biggest advantage PMP's still have over laptops is the battery life, PMPs being double that of a laptop, and Cowon trump the lot with their high capacity batteries.
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