The most wanted man in Britain according to all the non-Brexit news hype.
I thought that was Tony Blair.
Who still walks free BTW. Along with his banking friends.
Julian Assange has been arrested by London cops at the Ecuadorian Embassy after the nation revoked the asylum it had given him for nearly seven years. BREAKING: #Assange removed from embassy - video pic.twitter.com/qsHy7ZVPg5 — Ruptly (@Ruptly) April 11, 2019 The Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) issued a statement this …
Just wondering ... could Assange contrive to get extradited to Ecuador? Yes, I know that sounds like scratched and warped vinyl, but hear me out. He obviously could not get to Ecuador by normal means (see Edward Snowden case), but if he is extradited, could that level of officiality overcome the USA's itchiness to get its hands on him? Charge? Cruelty to animal. Sure, Ecuador has suffered enough over this, but in the rough and ready schoolyard of international relations, they kick a country when it's down. "Go on, we all do it."
Bobby Fischer was also a fugitive from the US Justice system. His crime, playing chess. In Serbia. For money. His salvation came from an unexpected direction.
Sometimes it is a good idea not to pee in the Wheaties of the person who is helping you. AKA, Julian bites the hand too hard and Ecuador will give him up. If someone were to be helping me out in a similar situation, it would probably be me that says "Yes sir!" and "Yes Ma'am!".
I can't speak for the rape charges, a court should have it's day on that one.
I personally considered JA a bit of a hero for Wikileaks, but it has become fairly clear that he has his own political agenda, and for a site like Wikileaks, that is not good.
He is increasingly looking like a political / Russian tool who was determined to damage one side of American politics, and help the other. Not a good look for a supposedly even-handed web site.
Time for him to answer up, instead of hiding and playing the victim card and hiding.
Re: "supposedly even-handed web site"
Unlike, say, the BBC, Guardian, Times, Daily Telegraph, Daily Mail, Daily Mirror, Washington Post, MSNBC, Fox News etc which will all tell you how "even-handed" they are.
As for "Does he deserve justice" - are you American or just an advocate of Cardassian law?
Assange has literally been a prisoner of the Americans, Ecuadorians and the Brits for 7 years, all because of the NAZI-like policies of the US. It reminds me of the recent Canadian experience where the Chinese woman was shanghaied by Canadian police and politicians to satisfy the American thirst for blood based on not many facts or much evidence. The US, the world's worst example of a prosecutorial fascist culture masquerading as a democracy, is involved up to their eyebrows in both messes. The poor sob has thrown his life away and has little hope of redemption (not in the eyes of God, I must clarify). One does not stand up against a massive, powerful dictatorial regime without expecting to be crucified, as he will be.
He's been a prisoner of his own ego, nothing else. ... Aladdin Sane
But now to be immortalised as a martyr of virtual jihad, Aladdin Sane, with believers and disciples energised into stealthy worship of the hidden truths of classified interests being abused and used against the ignorant masses/undereducated hoi polloi ‽ .
That's something else which opens up a whole new can of worms for Extant Systems Admins to deal with and deny they support and retain to sustain and maintain.
Not a great move by Extant Systems Admins given the vast number of invisible and intangible enemies ready, willing and able and immediately available for Internetional Service out there ....although that is surely no great surprise to anybody given all of the evidence presented of their shenanigans in the past resulting in the main streamed media narratives of today.
Here's one of those worms easily turned deadly poisonous snake ........ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/assange-arrest-charges-taibbi-821107/ ......... but it is does make for cheap pulp television where all can easily follow the inherent media bias in both the mogul and the minnow vying for predominance and credibility in the mainstream.
There is a lot here we don't know.
Are we supposed to believe that someone smart enough to uncover evidence of industrial-scale human rights abuses is not smart enough to watch where he dips his wick, for crying out loud? If you're carrying information that could bring down a powerful government, the last thing you want to do is take stupid risks like having casual sex with strangers, even if your reasons are more selfish i.e. not wanting to risk getting yourself into trouble with the law or trapped in a room with a murderer, as opposed to not actually wanting anybody else to suffer. Unless you believe that the information that you are carrying makes you worth protecting. Then you might be tempted to see if you could get away with a crime; but even so, there are classier crimes, ones more likely to endear you to the public, than rape. Art or jewel theft, for instance, if done with no harm to life, tend to court a good measure of public sympathy for the thief; since the original owner was obviously just showing off their wealth, and everyone loves a Robin Hood character. Even shoplifting a bottle of vodka from a supermarket is mostly going to inspire pity, as opposed to outright revulsion.
On the other hand, if you're in bed with someone who knows something you're desperate to conceal, why not just kill him there and then? That would have made every James Bond film a fair bit shorter. Get into a Cowgirl position, then stab him straight through the heart with a dagger, right in the middle of the vinegar strokes. Job's a good 'un. Your bosses can deal with the clean-up. But once the target is dead and the secret isn't coming out, that makes you expendable ..... So maybe you can use the target, alive, to your own advantage and double-cross your employers? Convince him that you're his only hope, half the money is better than being dead and the only way he can get that is by trusting you? If I'm going to kill you, I will do so whether or not you trust me. But if you don't let me help you, I can't stop anyone else from killing you. So have we got a deal?
Is the timing significant? Invading an embassy to take a prisoner, even one wanted for rape, has the potential to start an International Incident. Waiting until the last minute before the UK would have provoked another International Incident by crashing out of the EU without a deal suggests someone might have been hoping for one lot of events to divert attention from the other lot of events. And if the UK could no longer practice Extraordinary Rendition from anywhere in the EU, our usefulness internationally would be diminished.
Have multiple, over-complicated plots failed at once?
Of course, the most boring explanation is that what Julian Assange actually knew was not really worth very much; but he was arrogant enough to assume that it made him invulnerable, and tried to prove it by getting away with rape. But of course, that is exactly what They want you to think .....
Invading an embassy to take a prisoner, even one wanted for rape, has the potential to start an International Incident. ...... JulieM
It is impossible to not notice this morning the
impartial BBC trying to get Sweden to make fools of themselves with a request from them to extradite him to there so home grown political cowards and wannabe armchair heroes in Blighty are let off their hooks there.
Some retarded folk just never learn from their shame and are always looking for others to blame for their seriously sub-prime game play. And aint that the gospel truth.
You're really not helping Their cause. If They have a cause. Whoever They are. If They exist at all.
How does someone manage to get hold of potentially world-shattering material, and then go and blow it with an indiscretion like that? If he genuinely was just a lecherous creep who couldn't keep his flies fastened for ten minutes, how did he not get busted long ago? Did all the power just go to his head and make him think he could get away with anything? He must surely have known from the outset that any public sympathy would be lost with the merest hint of any sexual impropriety. Doesn't matter if you stopped someone from pressing the Nuclear Button; if you were so much as caught wanking into a condom in a lay-by on a deserted country road at three in the morning, you'll still never be anything but a sex offender. (On the other hand, some people might prefer to be remembered for having sex with a pig's head than for selling an entire country to a bunch of carpet-baggers.) What was he even playing at, having sex with anyone at all? And why arrest him now, mere hours before the UK was about to leave the EU? (The October extension was not known about when the first moves would have had to have been made.)
But that's the difference between truth and fiction, I guess. Authors have to make fiction make sense. All the loose ends get brought together and tied up in the final chapter or scene, and you're blaming yourself for not spotting the connection much earlier rather than the author or director for deliberately leading you down the wrong path around the point in the story where they thought you might make the connection. (Or else you throw the book at the wall, or storm out of the cinema in a huff.) Real life isn't constrained to a page count or running time, and doesn't care whether or not the audience end up feeling entertained.
I suppose we're just never going to find out. Whether that is because there is nothing to find out or because of some elaborate plot to conceal the sort of unimaginable human rights abuses alongside which even sexual assault pales into insignificance, ultimately won't make a blind bit of difference anyway.
I suppose we're just never going to find out. Whether that is because there is nothing to find out or because of some elaborate plot to conceal the sort of unimaginable human rights abuses alongside which even sexual assault pales into insignificance, ultimately won't make a blind bit of difference anyway. .... Julie M
Do we have to decide whether that be hubris and ignorance or arrogance and delusion having their say, JulieM?
Hasn't it always been the case, and therefore always will be the case, that a very select few, who may or may not know exactly what to do with what is discovered and uncovered, find out, if not quite everything, certainly more than enough to make a great deal of difference.
And that is why they are so diligently sought after and extremely well paid to do probably either of two things
a) Retire into the sunset as fiat currency rich as Croesus to do virtually nothing to make a further greater deal of difference .... or
b) pick any number of conflicting sides to make them rich beyond their wildest dreams, knowing full well the value of the worth which they will pay to have discoveries and secrets keep coming their way.
However, as is usually the case in such situations, there may very well be though quite a few other obscure options too to explore that would preternaturally excite even greater interest with the simplest of seedings and feedings with crude base investments in that which would be capable of proving itself to be so disruptive and potentially catastrophically destructive to a significant number of others.
Capitalized "They" in the X-Files-the-Truth(1)-is-out-there style sentence about "that's what they to think".
After a long post of semi-sceptical "conspiratorial" musings, *and a final paragraph of "Or maybe the simple explanation is that he's an asshat".* After all that, this single, *italicized*, ooo-wee-ooo-eee Twilight-Zone sentence.
Grow up; learn to recognize sarcasm without the over-the-top delivery, hashtags, or emoti... Uh, -jis. I totally meant to say emojis. I'm not that old!(2)
1: Yet another capital 'T'.
2: Yes I am.
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