All I know is that I wouldn't want this prick working in my office, and neither would anyone else here (I asked). Personally I don't have a problem in firing people if they stink up the atmosphere.
Memo man Damore is back – with lawyers: Now Google sued for 'punishing' white men
James Damore, the software engineer fired from Google after ironically firing off a neurotic memo about "neurotic" women, has launched a class-action lawsuit in the US against his former employer. The sueball was lobbed into the Superior Court of California in Santa Clara on Monday by Damore and fellow former Googler David …
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Tuesday 9th January 2018 15:18 GMT lucki bstard
With your attitude 'wouldn't want this prick working in my office' and 'I don't have a problem in firing people if they stink up the atmosphere' I can see that people would really be honest with you, and wouldn't be intimidated by you at all. Hell with that attitude and a little bit of documentation, an employee could have a lawsuit aimed at you anyday.
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Wednesday 10th January 2018 14:14 GMT h4rm0ny
>>"I'm not prepared to share it with some bigoted misogynistic bro arsehole."
The problem being that you're talking about firing someone for not agreeing with you preferentially selecting by sex. Or for voting for a different political party than you (see his court filing listing many of the emails that were flying around insisting he be sacked before someone leaked the memo to make it happen).
You can't just point at someone, call them a "bro" and fire them. Well, not in Europe anyway.
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Tuesday 9th January 2018 15:23 GMT tiggity
Blind auditions
Lots of orchestras use blind auditions to try and reduce bias (even if it is unconscious and not deliberate)
Candidates play, behind a screen, they can be heard but not seen
Using this approach, % of women in orchestras increased a lot
Obviously quite hard for IT post, coding tests on a machine easy enough but interview more awkward (though could have voice technology, but interviews do allow hints of gender, race, "class" depending on language / idiom use so hard to make it fully bias free)
Obviously, this might not lead to greater female diversity, it would depend on gender ratio of applicants, and if selection process was actually identifying best candidates, the gender split of top candidates. In orchestra auditions plenty of women applying, in IT might have to do some "positive action" to increase number of female applicants in interview pool just because (from applications I have seen) most applicants for IT jobs tend to be men
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Tuesday 9th January 2018 17:05 GMT h4rm0ny
Re: Blind auditions
It didn't "plummet". It was around 8%. But that's sufficient to be significant and more than sufficient to show there wasn't bias against women in hiring. There was a similar but smaller effect for racial minorities.
It's blackly amusing reading the foreword trying to downplay the conclusions and subtly argue for the body's continued funding.
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Wednesday 10th January 2018 11:00 GMT Ray Foulkes
Re: Blind auditions
Just hilarious: It reads "In fact, in the trial we found that overall, APS officers generally discriminated in favour of female and minority candidates. " or to paraphrase "In fact, in the trial we found that overall, APS officers generally discriminated against white, male candidates."
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Tuesday 9th January 2018 17:42 GMT a_yank_lurker
Forest vs Trees
The net claim is Chocolate Factory actively discriminates against certain groups in violation of state/feral laws. If true and proven, Chocolate Factory is footing the bill for some serious money plus further scrutiny such as age discrimination.
As far as why there is in imbalance in IT between men and women in the US my take is that many males who go into IT have dismal social skills even for STEM majors. Also, there is a tendency to not realize most of IT is problem solving that is a common STEM skill applied to a specific set of problems. Much of IT can be learned by anyone who wishes to spend the time.
A bit of history, in the old days there were no IT graduates so those who got into IT were often some what older, seasoned professionals who were more mature and socially adept. They had a better understanding of the fundamental role of IT in business which really has not changed to improve the bottom line by automating tasks that humans tend to do very slowly and often erratically. Often the PFYs are more interested in 'saving the world' than helping the business make money but they will not have any money if the business does not survive.
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Wednesday 10th January 2018 12:27 GMT EnviableOne
Gender ratios, rooney rules and Positive discrimintaion
theres reasons why the highest suicide rate is in single white hetrosexual males over 25 and under 55.
Discrimination is wrong, and this group can't stand up for themselves without being accused of it.
Just because the legislation was created for one case doesnt mean its not valid for the opposite.
jsut have to say the race for life is only open to females, but Movember's morun is open to everyone..
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Thursday 11th January 2018 08:32 GMT WatAWorld
Why am I instead reading strawman arguments in The Register instead of fact-based articles?
http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/10/19-insane-tidbits-james-damores-lawsuit-googles-office-environment/
Why does The Register carry so many strawman arguments on this issue? Why does it ignore people's own statements and evidence is going on?
What is wrong with The Register's editorial staff and what happened to journalistic integrity?
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Friday 12th January 2018 23:11 GMT Jonathan Schwatrz
Great read!
I think the top people at Google need to read this post by Mike Rowe which neatly and eloquently deals with an "un-fan".