back to article Jodie Who-ttaker? The Doctor is in

The timelord of Doctor Who, a man since 1963, will be portrayed by a woman – actress Jodie Whittaker – for the first time. Peter Capaldi, Doctor number 12, will regenerate after four years in the BBC's Christmas 2017 special to take on his new, female form. We last saw Capaldi's Doctor fighting his regeneration in Series 10, …

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"and we had a female prime minister in 1979"

And on the subject of John Simm, gender and (potential) time travel - there's a Gene Hunt quote for that!

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- a Gene Hunt quote?

Also a Robert Heinlein title : "- All You Zombies -"

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Never mind the gender, feel the height

Past doctors have been tall by the standards of leading men (cf T. Cruise Esq. and similar midgets), so we might have expected a tallish woman for the part. JW is only average at a non-metric 5'5", which is going to make setting up face-to-face confrontations with villains a whole new ballgame, as we say here.

This may bring back platform boots!

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I rather liked Capaldi, reminded me a lot of Tom Baker.

As for #13, I hoping, other than the "I've got breasts" post regeneration line, that the sex of the Doctor isn't the most focused on part of the next series.

PS. When is the Jane Bond announcement being made?

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"PS. When is the Jane Bond announcement being made?"

You want Jane Bond?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0141421/

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You want Jane Bond?

This would cause arguments if taken up by the non porn based industry.

James Bond sleeps around, he is a hero.

Jane Bond sleeps around and she will be called a bad name.

This then will create a conflict where one group will state, quite right, women are equal to men and can sleep around like men do. Then another group will complain, portraying men who sleep around as something to aspire to, just makes men treat women badly.

The ironic thing is, it will be women who are complaining about both aspects.

Can only be settled using mud wresting.

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Necrophobic

It's a bit necrophobic of the BBC not to bring back John Pertwee. Even if he did or did not have a posthumous sex change, it is a such an outrage. Never going to watch TV again. I'm so f*****g triggered right now.

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Re: Necrophobic

I can remember when he was first announced as the next Doctor, and I was contemplating the smuggling possibilities of a Time Machine with CPO Pertwee in charge.

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A bit too SJW

Lets face it, if the doctor had never married Riversong and had a kid, or indeed started coupling up at all, this would be throughly normal. But since the Doctor has already done so, now there's a bit of a mess.

There's plenty of SJW possibilities: Riversong could be pissed off she's made into a lesbian without consent, or could embrace it and have her own sex change. But then she might be homophobic!

I suspect the more this crap goes on, the fewer people will watch, and then the next Doctor will have to exit a shower asking what he missed :-)

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Re: A bit too SJW

What the hell did I just read?

BTW, River Song is dead/Not been born yet (she and the Doctor kind of traveled in opposite directions, chronologically) so would have no opinion of the latest incarnation.

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Re: A bit too SJW

I *think* you just read something by a misogynistic fucktrumpet. Or he could be a lobotomised shitlark, or perhaps a wankpuffin.

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Re: A bit too SJW

"SJW"

Fuck's sake, the MRAs are out in force today. What's wrong, guys, did mommy shut off the Playstation?

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Re: A bit too SJW

See? There's just no pleasing some people :-)

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Re: A bit too SJW

That's the positive side to SJW's: they are very inventive about word creation. Mostly insults of course, but...

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I don't care one way or the other just as long as it's done well. Good scripts, good acting, good production values etc. Something that is entertaining to watch, and good enough to watch again every now and then.

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But the Doctor still hasn't regenerated as a Ginger... He (or now she) always wanted to be a Ginger.

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Always wanted to be Ginger? Is the Doctor actually a reincarnation of Greebo?

(But would that have limited him to 8 reincarnations?)

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Jelly babies

I'm excited to see where Mr Moffat is taking The Doctor.

...providing that there's absolutely no "love interest" nonsense.

I think it would devalue the show and potentially be the worst thing to ever happen to Dr Who since that John Barrowman spinoff.

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No more Moffat, the new showrunner is Chris 'Broadchurch' Chibnall (hence the casting, I should imagine)

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My only complaint is that she looks too BBC. Stand her between Laura Kuenssberg and Emily Maitlis and spot the odd one out. That and every youtube video I've found of her has her acting far too restrained to be the doctor.

That said, she has enough time to fix that, I look forward to seeing her be anything but normal and restrained.

P.S. She's still playing a male timelord, just temporarily in a female body. Same way the general was always female.

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Looks too BBC?

You mean she looks like a Redgrave or a Richardson. Not to disparage her, but if you wanted a Redgrave or a Richardson and you couldn't get one, you might wind up with the first actor who looked like one. Perhaps those dynasties have had the effect of spawning a generation of lookalikes.

See Jemma Redgrave's turn as Kate Stewart, and indeed the spin-off portrayal.

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Re: Looks too BBC?

I kind-of meant she looks like her stylist is the BBC wardrobe department.

No, I wouldn't accept Kate Stewart as the Doctor, but then I wouldn't have accepted Nicholas Courtney playing one either.

Hopefully she'll make the break from her current professional persona and turn into something awesome. It's got to be stressful but on the plus side the more improbable you are the more it works.

So please, Jodie, be awesome. And writers, don't you dare let her down, you thunderfish!

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Agenda? What Agenda?

It always bugs me that certain "fans" accuse the BBC of doing this to further some kind of "lefty PC agenda", while being completely ignorant of how casting in done for TV shows. The Beeb don't hover over Doctor Who like some nebulous Big Brother, pointing at Chibnall and intoning "Thou Shalt Cast a Female Doctor for Lo it is the next stage in the great LGBT Master Plan".

Chibnall has total control of who he auditions and who he casts. Yes he's admitted he's always wanted a female Doctor, because he like strong female roles, and wants to see what JW will do with it.

Oh and the other complaint is that he's picked her because she was in his show Broadchurch. Well, duh, yeah why not? He'll contact the agents of actors whose work he is familiar with and ask them to come in and audition. Same reason why RTD auditioned and cast Tennant, who he'd worked with on "Casanova". If Whittaker hadn't pleased him in the audition he wouldn't have cast her, simple as that. But apparently she aced it, so she's the 13th Doctor.

Sometimes (probably most times) there isn't a hidden agenda. There isn't a plot. Sometimes actors get the job because they're damn good at it.

Personally I've never look forward to a new series of Doctor Who this much since 2005.

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Re: Agenda? What Agenda?

It's a misquote. She said not to be afraid of her gender.

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Re: Agenda? What Agenda?

She said not to be afraid of her gender.

She's a Latin scholar? Or does she mean her sex?

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Re: Agenda? What Agenda?

Jodie's sex is none of our business. The Doctor's on the other hand is vitally important for the series.

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So, now we know the Doctor's first name

Stan

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Regenerate a few more fingers?

I'm just wondering when the BBC bods will actually learn to count?

1 - Hartnell

2 - Troughton

3 - Pertwee

4 - T Baker

5 - Davidson

6 - C Baker

7 - McCoy

8 - McGann

9 - Hurt

10 - Ecclestone

11 - Tennant

12 - Smith

13 - Capaldi

14 - Whittaker

She's the 14th, not the 13th...?

Or are they trying to ignore either McGann or Hurt?

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Re: Regenerate a few more fingers?

She's the 15th.

Joanna Lumley was a Doctor, somewhere in between McGann and Ecclestone.

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Re: Regenerate a few more fingers?

Peter Cushing?

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Re: Regenerate a few more fingers?

@wolfetone - That'd make her 19th, as you'd have to shoe-horn in Rowan Atkinson, Richard E Grant, Jim Broadbend and Hugh Grant in too.

I know the Tardis is bigger on the inside, but even then it'd be a squeeze...

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Re: Regenerate a few more fingers?

9 was 8.5 that everybody forgot about, including himself, because of special time war reasons.

Cushing was Dr. Who which is someone completely different to The Doctor even though they both have blue time machines which look like 1960s police phone boxes.

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Re: Regenerate a few more fingers?

what about Cushing ;)

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Re: Regenerate a few more fingers?

If your'e gong to complain about the numbering, please get it right.

10 - Ecclestone

11 - Tennant

12 - Tennant

13 - Smith

14 - Capaldi

15 - Whittaker

> She's the 14th, not the 13th...?

Tennant used up a regeneraton healing injuries, so appears twice.

The War Doctor wasn't given a number.

So she is the 15th regeneraton, but referred to as number 13.

Now where's my anorack?

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Re: Regenerate a few more fingers?

She is the 15th incarnation (14th regeneration), but referred to as number 13.

The Five Doctors

First Doctor: Regeneration?

Fifth Doctor: Fourth.

First Doctor: Goodness me! So, there are five of me now!

I actually prefer leather coats to anoraks (AKA Atmospheric Density Jackets - The Web Planet).

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Re: Regenerate a few more fingers?

If we're going to be picky, didn't Tate effectively become a quasi-Doctor until it started to burn out her brain and she got wiped?

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Re: Regenerate a few more fingers?

Joanna Lumley was a Doctor, somewhere in between McGann and Ecclestone."

Lenny Henry was the Doctor before Joanna Lumley, and for almost as long!

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"If we're going to be picky, didn't Tate effectively become a quasi-Doctor until it started to burn out her brain and she got wiped?"

Well, being picky, she gained some Time Lord power but didn't actually become The Doctor. As did Rose before her. You're probably being mis-led by Donnas comments about gaining the powers where she hysterically referred to herself as Dr Donna.

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Clearly it's down to cut backs, they can pay a woman less.

This post contains sarcasm.

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Not just Broadchurch

She was also in the truly wonderful Attack The Block. A very under-appreciated British sci-fi film. And the equally brilliant Venus alongside Peter O'Tool.

She's a terrific actor who's done a lot of different stuff. If the scripts are good then I fully expect her to do an excellent job. I'm really looking forward to seeing her in action.

And frankly, I'm just glad to finally see the back of Moffat. It's just a shame we only got one series of Bill and Nardol, they were great.

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Re: Not just Broadchurch

I thought she was great in St Trinians 1 and 2

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Re: Not just Broadchurch

It's not often you see 'great' and 'St Trinians 2' in the same sentence.

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Natural life cycle

It's pretty obvious that the gender change is part of the TLs natural life cycle. Like many creatures here on earth (e.g. Slipper Limpets) they spend many years as males impregnating as many females as possible and then turn into females and breed some more.

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Re: Clearly discrimination

And recently I've noticed that paedophiles are under-represented on the BBC as well ...

Don't be to sure, just because no-one has been outed yet as the mob are still going down the list of perverts.

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She's Heaven Sent

Personally...I think that's one hell of a bird.

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I'll be watching "Take Me Out" on ITV, far more entertaining and cerebral than the rubbish they have been serving up as Dr Who, has more women in it too. Hey now there's a possibility for Dr Who, Paddy McGuinness as the 14th (TV series) Doctor.

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Hmm

I dont watch it nor give a hoot about it (not that I have a problem with others enjoying it). But I have been very amused at the many news articles (as if TV is news but I dont understand reporting of XFactor or bake off either) proclaiming how wonderful it is to have a vagina as the lead to Dr Who.

I feel really sorry for the actress. I dont know if she was hired for her acting ability or because she has 2 humps on her chest but the reporting of her appointment does seem to reduce her to female bits. The start of this article running through her career was good but things like- "Finally, at least one of those boxes been ticked and we can move on." makes me cringe.

I get bothered when stupid ideas are floated like a gay bond or black spiderman etc only because it cheapens the role to PC bull. The rantings that WW was the first female heroine was quickly shot down with a list because people can and deserve to do things on their own merit. Shoehorning for PC sake is irritating and 'buying' viewers instead of earning them. I really hope for Jodie that is not what they are doing to her as it would be unfair to anyone. Best of luck to her.

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Re: Hmm

I agree that gay Bond would be a bit daft, given how ingrained the character's sexuality is to the role. Similarly a wheelchair bound Captain America wouldn't work - that also doesn't go with the fundamental essence of the character. But what's wrong with the idea of a black Spiderman? Nothing fundamentally white about that character, it just happens to be the way the comics were originally drawn. If rebooting the franchise is OK at all, why couldn't it be a black science geek who gets a dose of radioactive spider venom this time around?

None of these gender or race issues applies in the case of Doctor Who. Due to the regeneration meme the Doctor could quite literally be played by anyone the show's creators want to hire for the role. The show runner just has to play it straight, not treat it as some kind of big novelty themselves.

The new Doctor is female - so what? Best of luck to her - I'm looking forward to seeing what she'll do with the role. If she's anything like as good as Michelle Gomez was as Missy then we're in for a treat.

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Re: the idea of a black Spiderman?

It seems to me that there are two main/likely versions of a "black spiderman".

a) the original Peter Parker, but re/written as black

b) A black teen, who gets spiderman-like powers

I'm not much fussed either way, but I reckon that (a) would be more likely to irritate, and that (b) would actually give the (new) character, the powers, and the storyline a great deal of valuable freedom from the existing spiderman canon.

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