Re: what about child sex-bots?
Wouldn't give a fuck, as I'm not into victimless crime sniffing.
An expert has called for a ban on sex robots, saying that their introduction will, in some unspecified way, increase the damage to society caused by prostitution. Chatting with The Register, Dr Kathleen Richardson PhD contended that the possible AI sex droids of the future would strongly contribute to the continuing miserable …
"How do commentators feel about the production of child-like sex robots?"
A company in the USA make extremely life-like custom mannequins for customers - some of which are very up-market sex dolls. They say they refuse to make any that are child-like.
Can't find the article but here is a near one with a cheaper non-customised range. NSFW !!!!!!!
Anyone who has hired or employed someone to do something for them is renting someone else's body. I see little ethical difference between hiring a contract programmer and using his brains to do something you want, hiring a gardener and using his muscles to do something you want, and hiring a prostitute and using their body parts to do something you want. In all cases you have "objectified" the person you hired.
A few short points if I may:
1 - She said that use of sex-bots is deeply connected to the use of prostituted women. Obviously Thailand is teeming with machine powered whore houses.
2 - Who is SHE to say what I, as an adult man should or shouldn't be able to enjoy (within the law of course)
3 - Think of the benefits - i.e prisoners, pedos who need a surrogate, health affected individuals, genuinely lonely fucking people, people who LOVE sex but hate HERPES, rapists? The list is endless. While we're on the subject common sense would tell you that most people would prefer creepy Mr X down the street to be banging dolls than running summer camps and getting all "Ranger McFriendly".
4 - The religious could use them and still keep vows of celibacy, might improve their image tbh
5 - Has anyone seen Ex Machina? If yes, you probably would of fuct the android from it.
6 - The real concern - she malfunctions when your sticking your wick in there and it powers down, how much would it weigh and imagine taking it to the ER.
In short, she's a cunt.
7 - Final point, if they're made in Nigeria would I need to give my card details prior?
This lady owes me a keyboard. I always thought such plants can only flower in the US of A. Great to see that an hithero unknown (at least to me) university made it into the Reg. Wait ... is it a PR stunt? Anyway, going through this 200 or so comments will make my evening. Top Notch! ... My wife is getting concerned because i just cannot stop laughing ...
Prostitution is not going away anytime soon because there is enormous demand for such services. Wouldn't the widespread use of sex-bots go a long way toward significantly reducing the exploitation and misery of actual human beings?
That would be a huge plus, in my opinion. I'm afraid, however, that it's orthogonal to Professor Richardson's (rather stilted) view.
She is missing the obvious trend. What will become the sex toy is Virtual Reality interacting with the human nervous system. If your senses tell you something is happening - then that is your reality.
No mechanical devices to store or go wrong - just an app plugged into your sensory implant. No doubt there will then be laws against downloading some scenarios for the app to run.
(a) If the good Doctor is concerned about the exploitation part of prostitution, then she should consider legalizing (or at least de-criminalizing) it so that those in the industry can go to police to report abuse without fear of being locked up themselves, can unionize, and can generally make more ruckus about better working conditions. The State of Nevada has legalized prostitution and while I don't have figures to hand (ha!), my guess is that labour conditions are more favourable there and incidents of abuse/ exploitation are lower than in other states.
(b) Ditto everyone above who has pointed out the "vibrators good, sexbots bad?" incongruence. Not necessarily my cup of darjeeling, but I don't see how having more options available for folks to scratch itches is a bad thing.
(c) Comments about "finally, being able to get a shag without all the human baggage -- arguments, bribing with dinner and flowers, threats of partners withholding bedroom action" would suggest that sexbots could certainly solve some of the symptoms of a relationship mismatch but won't cure it. This of course, is one of the many areas of compromise/ negotiation that each couple has to decide for itself.
I looked at the reference list of the good Dr.'s "Research-Position Paper" and there is a glaring omission: "Satisfaction Guaranteed" by Dr. Isaac Asimov. I strongly suspect it may take the research - and position - to entirely new directions. The good Dr. may also expand the scope of her research after studying Dr. Asimov's "Evidence", too.
In Stanislaw Lem's "The Washing Machine Tragedy", we read:
Shortly after my return from the Eleventh Voyage, the papers began to devote increasing space to the competition between two large washing-machine manufacturers, Newton and Snodgrass.
Buying up the appropriate rights and licenses from interested parties for a sum of one million dollars, [Snodgrass] constructed, for bachelors, a washing machine endowed with the proportions of the renowned sexpot Mayne Jansfield, in platinum, and another, the Curlie McShane model, in black. Sales immediately jumped 87 percent. His opponent appealed to Congress, to public opinion, to the DAR, and to the PTA. But when Snodgrass kept supplying stores with washers of both sexes, more and more beautiful and seductive, Newton gave in and introduced the custom-built washers, which received the figure, coloring, size, and likeness chosen by the customer according to the photograph enclosed with his order. While the two giants of the washing-machine industry thus engaged in all-out war, their products began to exhibit unexpected and dangerous tendencies. The wet-nurse washers were bad enough, but washers that led to the ruin of promising young men and women, that tempted, seduced, and taught bad language to children — they were a serious family problem, not to mention washers with which one could cheat on one’s husband or wife! Those manufacturers of washing machines who still remained in business told the public, in ads, that the Jansfield-McShane washer represented an abuse of the high ideals of automated laundering (which was intended, after all, to strengthen and support the domestic way of life), since this washer could hold no more than a dozen handkerchiefs or one pillowcase, the rest of its interior being occupied by machinery that had not a thing to do with laundering — quite the contrary. These appeals had no effect. The snowballing cult of beautiful washers even tore a considerable part of the public away from their television sets. And that was only the beginning. Washers endowed with full spontaneity of action formed clandestine groups and engaged in shady operations. Whole gangs of them entered into cahoots with criminal elements, became involved with the underworld, and gave their owners terrible problems.
No, not a doebot! (well, ok, maybe a morphing bot... interior 3D printer creating the topological exterior... but I digress)
I mean really, where does this person get off thinking that humans are somehow special and not just Decartesian loosely force bound clouds of subatomic particles? Earth Firsters as the center of the firmament, music of the spheres, soul in the heart, Brother Assassin (how close does a pornbot have to be before the bot passes for a person ... not just Turing complete, but Richardson complete?) ... how much of the whole (ahem) does the toy have to be before the toy is not classed as a toy any longer. It is a slippery slide down the old rabbit hole it is-- no fur no lecherous lapinous intent?
The contraceptive pill is an environmental toxin from the view point of the evolutionary process. Humans will eventually, in a few generation, evolve to avoid it, for example by becoming even more unstable and having minds adapted to extreme religious views. It seems to me that robotics offers an adaptive method of birth control that can match pace with evolution and is unlikely to be avoided.
I think he was referring more to the scenario of 'Rise of the Marching Morons' or the movie 'Idiocracy.'
Intelligent, rational people use birth control, and breed only when they are emotionally ready, have a stable long-term relationship and have sufficient long-term career prospects that they are confident they can properly care for their offspring.
Religious nutters think contraception is a crime against their God, screw like rabbits and accept every child as a blessing confident that God will make it all work out somehow. Given enough time that would lead to natural selection - genetic in the very long term, but cultural in the short term, as most individuals take on the cultural and religious views of their parents. So within a few generations you find that simple reproductive advantage shifts the population in favor of those views which discourage of prohibit contraception.
Call me crazy, but I can't help but feel that any pimp who would otherwise traffic young women against their wills would not do so given the option to traffic a robot that doesn't have a will. For one thing the robot isn't going to require food or sleep or any of the other things those pesky humans need. At most it might need plugged in for a few hours every day. For another trafficked women sometimes escape and almost always want to, whereas the robot wouldn't. All in all pimping out a sexbot would be a whole lot less headache than pimping out a woman. Basically if the things were convincing enough (ie, more human-like than we can currently make them and firmly on the other side of the uncanny valley) and within a certain price range (cheaper than a human slave but much more expensive than a night with a prostitute) I could very easily see them making a bigger dent in the human trafficking problem than any thing else we could do.
It occured to me a while ago that human/extraterrestrial relations will not get into their stride until 'perverts' get in on the act - the postSETI version of interracial relationships in Alabama.
Those of you with an interest in promoting interspecies harmony could get a headstart here: http://gizmodo.com/368764/area-51-sex-doll-has-three-boobs-comes-with-free-alien-lube-nswf
* No, really, unless you work in 'the industry', you wouldn't want it showing up in the company log of your internet activity
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