back to article UK.gov admits porn age checks could harm small ISPs and encourage risky online behaviour

Enforcing age verification checks for online porn sites could be detrimental to smaller ISPs and significantly increase online fraud, the government has admitted. The measures, which are due to come into force in May, will require UK residents to prove they are 18 or over in order to get access to porn sites. The plans have …

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  1. Roger Mew

    The authorities just do not seem to understand computers, the internet or even porn sites and gambling. Many Americans are gambling online yet they are not allowed to, many UK citizens are getting blocked porn, yet again they are not allowed to. I use a VPN which I pay for and can therefore circumvent any silly state run cartel or the opposite. They would be far better off education the families on how to operate say openDNS. Last year I found that the IT section of my Grandaughters school did not know that children had circumvented all their blocking software. I had to explain it to them. My French grandaughters school has nothing!

    1. Charles 9

      No, because the families REFUSE to learn. Unless you start demanding courses and a license to use the Internet, you don't have much else in the way of options.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Typical government grand-standing

    Bloody techno-ignoramous nannies! What could possibly go wrong?

  3. J.G.Harston Silver badge

    Oh no! Boobs! and willies! And eek! what's he doing? That's the British Museum shut down.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    So kids, remember:

    No online pron.

    Get your stick mags the old fashioned way:

    - Left in hedges

    - Builders outhouses/portaloos

    - The woods

    - Uncle Kevin's closet

  5. Rol

    Why stop there?

    As a way of enforcing the fast spreading 20mph speed limit on many roads, the council could force drivers to buy a red flag carrying robot which can run no faster than 20mph in front of the car.

    Sounds no less bonkers than having to hand over your credit card details to a porn site in Nigeria.

    My ISP knows full well I'm over 18 and have no children, so why isn't that sufficient to stop my internet getting fitted with training wheels, a bib and a Nanny McPhee bottom wiping service?

    If I was a full-blown conspiracy theorist, I'd be inclined to think the whole thing was designed to support ISP's in charging more for a more intrusive service, whilst also supporting a more effective means of charging for porn in a world that has gotten accustomed to viewing it for free.

    And if my many years under the yoke of Tory governments has revealed anything, it is their finding of ways of forcing the public into paying into Tory donor/owned businesses, has been at the heart of every policy they have ever concocted.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Why stop there?

      HOW does your ISP know you're over 18, single, and childless? You could be LYING, after all.

  6. Rol

    Unsolicited Goods and Services Act 1971

    "Sir! Sir! I've just found this brown envelope on the chair. It must belong to that man from the Make Money Make Porn lobbying group"

    "Are you sure Smythe?"

    "Well he has been sat there for the past hour bemoaning how the porn industry needs to reign in all the freebies everyone seems content to slurp up"

    "Yes, I see how that might appear, but to be safe I best take hold of it and see if he comes back"

    "I could chase after him sir"

    "No! No need, if he notices it's missing he can arrange to have it collected"

    "But.."

    "Enough now Smythe. The unsolicited goods act is quite clear on the matter and Mr Lipstick Round The Nipple has three months in which to affirm his rights to the item and retake possession. After which it becomes my property"

    "Yes sir. Of course sir. Is there anything else you need assistance with?"

    "Mm. Yes as a matter of fact I do. You remember Mary Whitehouse and her campaign against, well, nature."

    "Yes I do"

    "Well I need you to find her modern equivalent, because I have some mean minded legislation to push through parliament"

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    lets hope ...

    the first sites required to capture proof of age are the Daily Fail & anything connected to The Sun/Murdoch ...... followed by Torygraph on exam results days, etc .....

  8. Systems Analyst

    INITAL COIN OFFERING

    Sounds like an opportunity to launch the blockchain of pr0n. A name like fang or horn or quim might suit.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    No tits, we're British

    Let our children rather watch the ISIS beheading videos. Those will not be blocked for anyone.

    1. Handle123456

      Re: No tits, we're British

      Does that really surprise you with BBC being indistinguishable from al Jazeera?

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Free pron?

    Reading that PDF is sort of strange. It seems to say that this only applies to commercial websites.

    Does that mean it's OK for children to view free pron? But to view pay-for-pron they have to have their age verified, or steal their parents card number which they probably already did?

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "Meanwhile, the estimated cost to large ISPs of blocking sites – on the assumption that this would be for between 1 and 50 sites a year on a DNS level – is in the range of £100,000 to £500,000, "

    If ISPs don't want to implement - then I can understand the high figure - however - most ISP's use firewalls and IDS/IDP hardware within their data centres that can filter on categories (porn being one of those) or implemented cheaply through a proxy at the data centre,

    It'll not stop VPN's or other types of behaviour t get around.

    1. FordPrefect

      You seriously think service providers use firewalls and deep packet inspection technologies such as IDS/IDP on a connection that is charged out at 20-30 a month for connections that are probably starting to average over 20MB? Most of its DNS based filtering these days.

  12. Handle123456

    It's the parents' job to raise children and protect them from harm, not government's!

    If a child is old and clever enough to circumvent the protection, it's old and clever enough to see a naked tit.

    The British ought to work on other problems, but I guess seeing a naked boob might cripple a child for life, while being repeatedly raped by an "oppressed minority" gang is perfectly fine.

    1. Charles 9

      And if the parents ABDICATE the job, where does that leave you? Handling a bunch of delinquents. If you want to enforce parental responsibility, you're going to need something like a Parenting License to prevent bad parents before their children become a societal concern.

      1. Handle123456

        Watching porn doesn't make anyone a delinquent.

        1. Charles 9

          But it can still be a warning sign of parental neglect, which CAN result in delinquency. Instead of focusing on the porn, look at the bigger issue of parental abdication. If you want to reduce delinquency, you're going to need to make parents own up and take responsibility. Got any ideas against such things as broken and abusive families and parents who simply don't give a soaring screw?

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