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Apple confirmed Thursday that its new Macbook Pro line will feature a touchscreen display to replace function keys. The new models, offered in 13-inch (33-cm) and 15-inch (38-cm) flavors, will be the first to sport the Touch Bar, a small Retina display strip that will sit just above the number keys in an area previously …

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Pro?

The only thing professional about this is the Thunderbolt ports, portability, SSD and the name...

Really disappointing that Intel Iris is still being used on the 13" ones. I have a sub £500 Windows 10 laptop with SSD and Intel Iris and whilst it can play certain games it's not great. The 15" is over-priced just to get the ATI dedicated card. I also have a £1300 Windows 10 laptop with 32GB of RAM, SSD and a dedicated Nvidia card that gives a comfortable 60fps+ on AAA games. Granted only 4 hours of battery life when using graphics card...

I have an older MBP for video editing but with the lack of ports, emoji-bar and on-board graphics on this new one - it feels more like a Mac Book Air. Feels like a step backward and the pricing doesn't help to push to competitor products.

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I do wonder Shaun ...

... How many weeks you worked on that headline, then how many more you've had it stuffed in a bag ...

Or do you guys keep an in-office infinite monkey pool?

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How much will the market bear?

Or a tax on stupidity.

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and who said Apple were out of ideas...

Function keys now configurable soft keys? Gosh! That will set the creatives collective pants on fire.

Just another thing to stop working imho

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Stick with my 2007 MacBookPro

i'll be honest, I only started using Apple products (apart from a brief and unsuccessful fling with an Apple NewtonI because the iPhone3 was so easy to use and combined all the PDA functions + camera + music in one place. I liked it so much I purchased a 13" 2007 MacBookPro, an iMac and AppleTV so I bought into the eco-system and have been there ever since.

i recently replaced the HDD with an SSD (plus extra RAM and a new battery) in my MacBookPro, it's running OSX MS Excel and VMWare Fusion with Win10 for MS Project as fast as I need. About the only thing I can't run is XCOM2, but I don't think that justifies spending nearly £3k on a new laptop. I'll just spend £40 on XCOM2 to run on my Xbox One S...which if i had a Windows10 laptop, I could run on both, and Excel and MSProject......hmmmmm.........any decent Windows phones out there?

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opinions are like ............

Glad to see the rivalry (hatred) between Mac and PC is alive and well, much like fighting on the football terraces.

I use both PC for work (HP Probook) and I have an iMac 24" and a 2010 Macbook pro. I am not a developer, programmer or anything to do with this sort of thing. At work, I am a user like millions of others that just use a PC to collate and manipulate data. At home I do the usual home stuff, Web, Music, Photo's etc. I chose a HP Probook because work gave me no alternative and I have had 3 in 3 years, all failed roughly after a year of service (one was my fault as it overheated in my laptop bag (don't tell the boss). In the three years I have used Windows 7 (I actually liked), Windows 8/8.1 (absolutely despised) and now Windows 10 (its OK). My Graphic Designer Wife got me my first Macbook in 2009 and I thought it was ok but with every new OS release I noticed a real step change in usability. Now here I have to reiterate....... I am not a Dev, Programmer etc etc I am a real world user who doesn't care about coding or hacking or overclocking. I am not interested in modding our upgrading etc. I just want my Computers to work and my Macs do, just as fast as the day they I took then out of the box. Yes they are very expensive and yes they are a little bit too shiny but for me and other none techies they just work. I have never had to re-install mac OS, I have never had a Virus and never do pop-ups, adware etc ruin my user experience. I have had a HD failure but Apple swapped it out for free and replaced my keyboard because it looked a little grubby, again for free. Do I like the look of the touch bar, yes. Will I use it? Probably as much as I do the function keys.

And yes I have an iPhone and iPad and love the way they all work together because that's what I want them to do.

(Steps back and awaits the usual football terrace banter....... You're going to get your ...........)

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Re: opinions are like ............

There is a big difference in the way the two work. The Mac is a much quieter and smoother place to work than in Windows land.

But, Ives Cook and Shiller have screwed Jobs' pooch. It's all form over function and really stupid design decisions which appears to be arrogance on top of hubris. This Macbook NOT Pro is a great example. Thin has never been the problem for professionals; it's connectivity, power and reliability that matters. The ability to connect to different peripherals and screens is vital if you're doing "work" as a 15" screen just isn't big enough. It's also piss-takingly expensive to which you'll need to spend loads more on adapters -- which the tight-arsed greedy bastards don't ship with the machine. FFS they've even removed the power lead!

So Apple appear to have withdrawn from the pro laptop market, the pro screen market, the sensible smartphone market... Oh, and the latest iOS's greatest feature: more emojis and wallpaper. And that useless watch thing.

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My wife owns a small photography business. We've had a lot of misgivings about Windows 10, enough so that we've been thinking about switching to Macs for photo-editing. But the new Macs and MBP's are so overpriced (and memory-limited, in the case of MBP) that the the migration is less likely.

When Microsoft pushed the catastrophe it calls Windows 10, they handed Apple a golden opportunity. I would have never guess that Apple would throw it away like this.

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Don't touch

Why whole kyeyboard not haptic glass ? Help Mongo understand ...

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It's amazing

Mac user since 98, and what did this announcement do to me? Look up at what you get for throwing €2.000 at Lenovo. Turns out you get a heck of a beastly system with more ports than you can shake a dongle at, a removable battery, matte screen (!) and rows upon rows of real keys. Amazing.

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Gimmics and price hikes

It just hit me. I had a ThinkPad from about year 2006 had a touch sensitive control strip above the keyboard just like that! The stupid thing began to wear out and it was near impossible to use.

I think people in the future will look at this one as a awkward departure from their design path. That strip actually makes it less elegant and more clunky in design aesthetics. Or in other words, it looks to me like a gimmick. In essence we've had usable features(missing SD card port?) traded out for a keyboard gimmick at an unreasonable price increase to shore up sagging profit figures.

(just my unreasonable 2 cents worth)

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Just stumbled across this: Benjamin Button Reviews The New MacBook Pro.

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I had a 2011 MBP. From a hardware perspective it still remains one of the best laptops I've ever owned.

I didn't particularly get along with OSX on it as for one thing, the tools I needed day-to-day weren't available for the OS.

The only reason I eventually sold it last August was because I had maxed out the RAM and storage and it was starting to make my mobile labs using Virtual Machines untenable.

The only MBP options by then had fixed everything which meant I couldn't upgrade it at any point so I was stuck paying top dollar for something that would possibly age even faster.

In the end, for just less than the same amount of money I bought a customised PC Specialist Defiance II.

This has 32GB RAM, 4TB (2x512GB m2 SSD's, 1 x 1TB SATA SSD and 1 x 2TB spinning rust), a 6GB (I think - going from memory) nVidia 980 GPU, LAN, 3x USB 3.0 and 1 combo HDMI with USB 2.0 ports, 2 x display ports, an SD card slot, optical port for sound and an almost full sized UK keyboard. Oh and a 4k screen (which in hindsigt I'd have foregone, if I'd known how p!ss poor Windows 10 still behaves with high DPI).

I can't see this one lasting less than the 4 and a half years the MBP lasted.

And no touch-gimmicks.

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Anonymous Coward

A much needed accessory for your new MacBook Pro

An external ESC key to plug in via USB… ;-)

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