back to article Good God, we've found a Google thing we like – the Pixel iPhone killer

Google is taking on the iPhone. At an event this morning in San Francisco, the web advertising giant took a huge leap into hardware with a range of new products aimed at taking on, and beating, the most popular consumer products on the market. Top of the list: the Google Pixel phone, which is aimed squarely at the iPhone. …

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Why does it have to be an iPhone killer? I hate that term. Feels like companies are always trying to beat Apple and 'kill them'. Well since the iPhone seems to be the bar everyone tries to beat, may as well just have an iPhone.

One day the competition might just get on with trying to do their best instead of trying to compare them selves to Apple all the time, but no, they must make iPhone killers, iPad killers or Macbook killers.

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@David Lawton

The iPhone was killed a while ago. They make up less than 10% of new sales. The rest are Android with the rest hidden in the rounding error somewhere.

iPhones are generally a couple of years behind technically. The interface screen looks pretty much the same as it did when it was on the iPod Touch. It has been happily copying what it sees as good ideas from other peoiple but not a decent UI.

Nobody is copying Apple but if they want to copy others, this may help.

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Re: @David Lawton

Eh? Technically behind?

They're updated every year mate. There's only so much innovation you can do until technology limits new ideas on the software side. So no surprise they're copying each other. The golden era is over. The iOS UI doesn't get changed radically to not piss off users. It works fine. Android on the other hand is annoying. The only Android experience I have to put up with is the gaming console thing I have that has KitKat. Ouch.

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Re: @David Lawton

"annoying". Right. That's a valid criticism.

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WTF?

Phone build

<quote>Plasticky, cheap feeling case – gone. The new phones are solid and metallic.</quote>

I take it you've never picked up an Nexus phone then?

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Google have already lost this one.

To win, they had to get everyone saying "Wow, did you see what that incredible AI could do!"

Instead, everyone is talking about whether the phone really is good as an iPhone. This is not a very interesting place for Google to be.

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And to get there you'd pretty much have to have it pass a Turing Test: a bridge too far.

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So let me get this straight...

Having pretty much hardwired their services into Android, Google are now bringing out their hardware own hardware to run it on.

Doubtless the next step will be very similar to how they forced Chrome up to the number 1 browser spot - a very obvious call-to-action on their search results page (with Chrome for Android and Google search being the defaults, natch), saying "why not upgrade your handset to a faster, more secure, more reliable model?" and linking through to the store.

After that, maybe a few zero-day issues in new versions of Android that get fixed overnight on the Pixel handsets while everyone else is forced to languish?

And to top it all off - "unlimited cloud storage". That's a double whammy of pushing everyone towards the Google cloud, while also effectively undercutting the competition - tantamount to the anticompetitive, widely illegal practice of predatory pricing.

And people still think this is not a monopolistic behaviour?

At least on patch Tuesday, Microsoft patch everyone's machine* regardless of hardware vendor.

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iClone.

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Google - "oh frabjous day, we've made an iPhone!"

Apple fanboys : "why?"

Android fanboys : "why?"

Apple lawyers "woohoo, payday"

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Copying Apple would loose them money

Whilst there are certainly a lot of reasons to buy Android phones - price, functionality, battery etc - there is some reasons to not buy Apple including Apple business practices, being treated like a moron, restrictions and so on. One of the biggest is that their phones look #shiny and distinctly dated. Many Android users might keep away from something that aped what they are happily not using.

I have not seem many pictures but, fortunately, it does not look like an iThing. It looks like a phone. Glass on one side, metal or whatever on the other, rounded corners(!) and so on.

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phone range

Get some publicity with an iPhone clone if you want Google, but a range of models with more affordable prices would have been nice

Would far sooner see additional Google phone at an attractive price (and with SD slot as must have) rather than something copying iPhone high price , lack of card slot (though Google have track record of no SD card on their phones - e.g. see Nexus)

Happy to have a bit of plastic, bog standard camera (I have a proper camera, all phone camera will do is take the odd snap / cat video style of junk so no need for best in class quality)

Cheap and cheerful android with space for media on SD (streaming needs decent signal & eats costly bandwidth, handy to have phone doubling as MP3 player) and regular security updates is all I need (and doubt I am alone with such simple needs) without the warranty voiding of root & modded ROM.

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I like lots of Google things

It's Microsoft, Apple and Facebook the ones pushing out the crap.

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Re: I like lots of Google things

Every giant corporation of America does because of the mentality that money is the primacy of life.

A lot of companies around the world also follow the same principles, although they are often more subtle about it than their US counterparts. Companies around the world love to shaft you, American companies are just the same, with the bonus that they like to tell you how they will shaft you.

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DUAL SIM

I would give up my iPhone if it had DUAL sim.

Otherwise it is a "me too" device.

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Re: DUAL SIM

have you checked out the One+ Three?

I'm very tempted. 64GB internal, too.

I'm torn over this, I really am.. :-(

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No discount?

$649 is a lot for a device from a company that's making money off my personal information.

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Mat

WTF??

"Google has taken many of the things that are nice about the iPhone's operating system and just copied them"

Swipe notifications and pull down settings???

Apple copied those from Android...

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Nice phone, but the design isn't exactly thrilling, and its WAY too expensive.

The HTC 10, Moto Z, LG G5, Samsung Galaxy S7, and OnePlus 3 are all flagship phones at significantly less money. (Especially the OnePlus 3)

Are timely software updates really worth the (large) price premium when sites like XDA developers exist if you care that much?

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It's a got a headphone jack!

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A good review if you wanted an Apple users view

It has the same lack of awareness you expect from Apple fanbois! :)

Copied swipe notifications? Yes, Apple did.

The round hole for fingerprint scanners that is a direct continuation of the Nexus 5x and 6p scanner? Sure why not, now it's an Apple tribute,

Never let details get in the way of an article!

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Ouch!

£819 fully loaded. Ouch ouch ouch.

Reason 11. Match Apple on eye watering price too.

Spookily the exact same price as the iPhone 7

http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-7/5.5-inch-display-128gb-jet-black

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Where is the Pixel plus? 5" phone is sooo 2013

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No Google Stores

Google have seen chumps buying iPhones and thought premium price land here we come.. but they haven't got a Google shop in every premium shopping centre, staffed by people insane enough to patiently listen and help chumps who can't configure their home WiFi and send them away to be fixed when they breakdown. That's what people are paying the i-premium for and that's fair enough, I can see the appeal... but Google has none of this infrastructure and never will.

Android users want premium phones at half the price, and companies like Xiaomi and OnePlus produce phones. The Pixel specs, despite what the author thinks, are pretty mid-range, and indeed the materials, you get premium metal cases for a lot lot less.

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This is not how you make an iPhone killer

The iPhone didn't kill nokia by providing the same experience as the S60 series but on marginally better hardware. They did it by making something different and better.

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Re: This is not how you make an iPhone killer

If Nokia had an iTunes equivalent/music industry relationship many years ago, who knows how this would have turned out?

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Re: This is not how you make an iPhone killer

Yes, the different and better thing they made was not the phone hardware or even software it was the app ecosystem.

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Removable battery? Meh... Replaceable batteries FTW!

Don't really care if the battery is removable or not. What I would like to see is a battery that is easily *replaceable* when it reaches the end of life, without having to crack the case open with specialist tools and/or send it back to a manufacturer.

Your battery could lose around 25% of capacity within 9 months or so of charge-discharge cycles, and I tend to find after about 18 months that it's annoying me enough to look at doing something about it. I'd like the option to get a new, genuine battery fitted that wouldn't cost half the price of a new phone to sort out.

Of course, the irony of owning a Samsung phone and wanting a genuine battery is not lost on me at this point...

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Re: Removable battery? Meh... Replaceable batteries FTW!

Err. What you "would like to see" is the same thing that you "don't really care" about apparently...

A removable battery is easily replaceable. By definition.

The recent LG phones have batteries you can replace for about 15 quid.

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Backup

Unless I missed something, backup on android still sucks.

By backup, I mean over wifi every night, when I put the phone on charge.

I then take phone, kill it, get new phone same model do something - restore, re-identify, whatever.

It then restores and the phone is the same as the broken one, no need to re-set up a single up, no missing text messages, nothing.

Last time I tried android it needed adb and a command line to do anything close.

Plus, not all the apps worked as before after the restore.

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